Pathfinder: Kingmaker

Pathfinder: Kingmaker

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Rake Oct 4, 2018 @ 3:59pm
Kukri build
What would be best build for Kukri ? this weapon seems very good. is it like rogue 4/ viv 16 or maybe some kind of mix with barbarian? or pure knife master? is arcane trickster stronger? Im just looking for best melee dps with dex focus.
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michael Oct 12, 2018 @ 7:16pm 
LOL! Looks like my build is catching on :)
Also waiting for too many bugs to be fix.

But even without the dex to damage bonus it really is doing a ton of damage.. especially when all your front fighters have the team work feats for precision strike or the one that gives +4 to hit when flanking.
Last edited by michael; Oct 12, 2018 @ 7:19pm
oo Oct 12, 2018 @ 7:24pm 
New version in progress:

---Stabby Mc Nice Guy---

Aasimar
Musetouched (Azatha-blooded):
+2 racial bonus to Dexterity and Charisma,
+2 racial bonus on Persuasion and Mobility,
and can use the Glitterdust spell once per day.

Custom female avatar premade at:
https://imgur.com/a/UW1dhXN
Art by Siwoo Kim.

Stats:
str:8
Dex:19
Con:10
Int:12
Wis:10
Chr:19

Persuation
Perception
Use Magic Device

1. Rogue1 - Two-Weapon Fighting *SNEAK* (Your penalties on attack rolls for fighting with two weapons are reduced by 2 for your primary hand and 6 for your off-hand.)
2. Fighter1 - Weapon Focus Kukri (Profficient with martial weapons => Finesse Training Kukri)
3. Rogue2 - Combat Reflexes (Seize the Moment now possible) AND Seize the Moment
4. Rogue3 - *NOTHING* (Finesse Training Kukri => Dexterity to damage) *SNEAK*
5. Paladin1 - Outflank BAB4 (Smite evil)
6. Paladin2 - *NOTHING* (Divine grace, lay on hands)
7. Fighter2 - Improved Two-Weapon Fighting BAB6 AND Dazzling Display
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8. Fighter3 - *NOTHING* (Armor Training)
9. Fighter4 - Shatter Defenses BAB6 AND Improve Critical Kukri BAB8
10. Fighter5 -*NOTHING* (Weapon Training)
11. Fighter6 - Critical Focus BAB9 AND Wings GEN (Any Aasimar gain a pair of wings (not visible) that grants a +3 dodge bonus to AC vs melee attacks and immunity to ground based effects, such as difficult terrain.)
12. Fighter7 - *NOTHING* (Armor Training)
13. Fighter8 - Greater Two-Weapon Fighting BAB11 AND Greater Weapon Focus Kukri FIGHT8 (Adds an additional +1 to hit with the chosen weapon.)
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14. Vivisectionist1 - *NOTHING* (Mutagen Dexterity) *SNEAK*
15. Fighter9 - ? (Advanced Weapon Training)
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16. ?
17. ?
18. ?
19. ?
20. ?
Last edited by oo; Nov 12, 2018 @ 5:05pm
Originally posted by Rake:
What would be best build for Kukri ? this weapon seems very good. is it like rogue 4/ viv 16 or maybe some kind of mix with barbarian? or pure knife master? is arcane trickster stronger? Im just looking for best melee dps with dex focus.

knife master rogue 20 levels, you get kukri feats+ 10d8 sneak attacks

Edit:

I just don't think cross classing in pathfinder is worth it, you lose way way WAY to much. If you want to do a fighter version use the scimitar you'll get similar damage out of it, and the same crit range. But you wont out damage a knife master.
Last edited by AzureTheGamerKobold; Oct 12, 2018 @ 7:33pm
Sotanaht Oct 12, 2018 @ 7:39pm 
Originally posted by AzureTheGamerKobold:
Originally posted by Rake:
What would be best build for Kukri ? this weapon seems very good. is it like rogue 4/ viv 16 or maybe some kind of mix with barbarian? or pure knife master? is arcane trickster stronger? Im just looking for best melee dps with dex focus.

knife master rogue 20 levels, you get kukri feats+ 10d8 sneak attacks

Edit:

I just don't think cross classing in pathfinder is worth it, you lose way way WAY to much. If you want to do a fighter version use the scimitar you'll get similar damage out of it, and the same crit range. But you wont out damage a knife master.
It's worth it in specific cases. I'm not sold on the fighter/rogue honestly, but things like monk/rogue are easy to see why they work.

If you are new to Pathfinder, definitely stick with single classes. It's easy to completely mess up a build by multiclassing. If you know what you are doing there's a lot to benefit from.
wendigo211 Oct 12, 2018 @ 8:09pm 
Try Knife Master 2/Transmuter 4 (Conjuration and Necromancy opposed)/AT 4/EK 10. You end up with 9d8 Sneak attack (Sense Vitals), level 9 Wizard Spells, 15 BAB. You're also considered a level 10 Fighter for taking with weapon focus, greater weapon focus and weapon spec. You might be better off going for Viv instead of KM so you get to sneak attack with spells, but since you want a Kukri build, I'm advocating KM.
oo Oct 13, 2018 @ 12:38pm 
Originally posted by Sotanaht:
If you are new to Pathfinder, definitely stick with single classes. It's easy to completely mess up a build by multiclassing. If you know what you are doing there's a lot to benefit from.

I'm thinking about noobing my way on hard with a multiclass build.
Post #17. Any feedback would be welcomed :-)

Also, what are all those extra numbers in BAB? For extra attacks?
Does BAB also affect hit chance?
Fighter:
BAB Level 20
+20/+15/+10/+5
Last edited by oo; Oct 13, 2018 @ 1:10pm
oo Oct 15, 2018 @ 1:28pm 
Hard mode is really hard. Still only found one Kukri at 4.
Got to rogue level 3. Weapon finesse not giving a damage boost.
Think I'll stop and wait for a fix :-(
Grifta Oct 15, 2018 @ 1:31pm 
Just go pure Rogue (Knife Master) since you can use Rogue Talent (Combat Feat) multiple times. It's basically like a fighter with Sneak Attacks instead of the extra to-hit.
Rake Oct 15, 2018 @ 1:32pm 
How Rogue fights solo? If there wont be sneak atacks it wont deal dmg?
Sigmund Void Oct 15, 2018 @ 1:38pm 
Originally posted by Grifta:
Just go pure Rogue (Knife Master) since you can use Rogue Talent (Combat Feat) multiple times. It's basically like a fighter with Sneak Attacks instead of the extra to-hit.


You will miss out BAB and penetrating strike etc and kukri is a crit weapon that does not make use of sneak attacks very well.

If you want to go sneak attacks -> Dagger with Knife Master or Short Sword Thug for example,

kukri could be 3-4 lvl rogue to make it finesse and then go fighter to at least 16 for greater penetrating strike.

Ofc. you can go Kukri instead of dagger for a Sneak Attack build but you nearly wont make use of the crit range.
Last edited by Sigmund Void; Oct 15, 2018 @ 1:39pm
dudex Oct 15, 2018 @ 3:10pm 
stick with a pure knifemaster

u want to get ur debilitating Injury and advanced rogue talents asap.

getting them early is a gamechanger. the lower bab can easily be countered by debilitating injury. Opportunist increases ur damage a lot and crippling strike is an amazing skill for taking down tough enemies.

doing a lot of multiclassing will just delay everything or not being able to get them at all. this isnt an mmo u dont spend 99% of ur playtime at max level.
1 (all muted) Oct 15, 2018 @ 4:09pm 
Vivi have alot selfbuffs.

It would be something like. Vivi - knife master x3(Finesse Training Kukri) - vivi x15, last one on whatever. or vivi x4, knife master x3, by the time you get descent kukri.

full dex, 14-16 int, before getting kukiri, use ranged or agile weapons.

spells - decrease creature, shield, true strike, blur, barkskin, improved invisibility, haste etc... You should have 30-36 ac at lvl 5, with +10 AB w dual wield, with only selfbuffs.

main damage will come from sneak attacks 5d8 at lvl 10.

Originally posted by oo:
Hard mode is really hard. Still only found one Kukri at 4.
Got to rogue level 3. Weapon finesse not giving a damage boost.
Think I'll stop and wait for a fix :-(

Weapon finesse is not supposed to give damage.

BAB affect hit chance and adds extra attack every 5 lvls - 1,6...
Last edited by 1 (all muted); Oct 16, 2018 @ 7:27am
oo Oct 15, 2018 @ 4:54pm 
Originally posted by all muted:
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Originally posted by oo:
Hard mode is really hard. Still only found one Kukri at 4.
Got to rogue level 3. Weapon finesse not giving a damage boost.
Think I'll stop and wait for a fix :-(

Weapon finesse is not supposed to give damage.

BAB affect hit chance and adds extra attack every 5 lvls - 1,6...

oops.. meant Finesse Training
OnlyOffensive Oct 15, 2018 @ 4:57pm 
Originally posted by oo:
Hard mode is really hard. Still only found one Kukri at 4.
Got to rogue level 3. Weapon finesse not giving a damage boost.
Think I'll stop and wait for a fix :-(

in Ratnook ( east of syncamore ), there are 3 wererats, one of them has keen kukri+1 and kukri+1. Killed them on level 4 hard difficulty. Be sure to bring communal resistance to fire. you can stick with agile weapons, i've seen agile light pick+1 early, i think they should scale damage off dex.
Last edited by OnlyOffensive; Oct 15, 2018 @ 4:59pm
oo Oct 16, 2018 @ 6:03am 
Originally posted by oo:
Originally posted by all muted:
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Weapon finesse is not supposed to give damage.

BAB affect hit chance and adds extra attack every 5 lvls - 1,6...

oops.. meant Finesse Training

1.0.9
- Finesse Training didn't work with Two Weapon Fighting. Resolution: fixed. :-D

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The Warerats were actually my next location :-)
Can't even hit those frackers :-(
Thank you for the tip though
Last edited by oo; Oct 16, 2018 @ 7:40am
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