So Valerie can't become a Paladin of Shelyn...

[GrandMajora]

But she CAN become a Cleric / Inquisitor!

I thought this was a funny idea, seeing as how her conversation options make it explicitly clear that she is an athiest. So giving her a religious class would kind of contradict that line of dialogue.
:)

[fluxtorrent]

Neither inquisitor nor cleric REQUIRE being religious in pathfinder, only that you take up a cause.

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by There's my chippy:

Really?

"Alignment: An inquisitor’s alignment must be within one step of her deity’s, along either the law/chaos axis or the good/evil axis."

I'm not that familiar with the class, is there an explicit exception somewhere? Or just good old fashioned houserule leeway

They might be thinking about Eberon, a D&D setting in which Clerics and Paladins fuel their spells through a concentration of faith, rather than praying to their gods.

This method of divine spellcasting, however, is not consistant across the rest of the genre, as some world settings involve divine casters acting as a conduit through which their deities are able to act upon the mortal plane.

[fluxtorrent]

Originally posted by There's my chippy:

Really?

"Alignment: An inquisitor’s alignment must be within one step of her deity’s, along either the law/chaos axis or the good/evil axis."

I'm not that familiar with the class, is there an explicit exception somewhere? Or just good old fashioned houserule leeway

It's more restrictive for inquisitors because they actually can lose class features if they stray from their "path". They select a deity because thats the agenda they are forwarding. They do not need to be a devout worshipper, only devout to the CAUSE. A cleric doesn't even need to select a deity in pnp, they can champion any cause they choose.

Example being you could be an inquisitor of pharasma. You don't actually even have to believe she exists, you just need to forward the goals of the cause.

[Jimbo The Hutt]

Originally posted by GrandMajora:

Originally posted by There's my chippy:

Really?

"Alignment: An inquisitor’s alignment must be within one step of her deity’s, along either the law/chaos axis or the good/evil axis."

I'm not that familiar with the class, is there an explicit exception somewhere? Or just good old fashioned houserule leeway

They might be thinking about Eberon, a D&D setting in which Clerics and Paladins fuel their spells through a concentration of faith, rather than praying to their gods.

This method of divine spellcasting, however, is not consistant across the rest of the genre, as some world settings involve divine casters acting as a conduit through which their deities are able to act upon the mortal plane.

In pathfinder a cleric can be an atheist and only fight for a cause, by choosing domains instead of a deity. I believe that Paladins can actually do it too...? Might be a home rule I did tho.

[fluxtorrent]

Originally posted by Jimbo The Hutt:

Originally posted by GrandMajora:

They might be thinking about Eberon, a D&D setting in which Clerics and Paladins fuel their spells through a concentration of faith, rather than praying to their gods.

This method of divine spellcasting, however, is not consistant across the rest of the genre, as some world settings involve divine casters acting as a conduit through which their deities are able to act upon the mortal plane.

In pathfinder a cleric can be an atheist and only fight for a cause, by choosing domains instead of a deity. I believe that Paladins can actually do it too...? Might be a home rule I did tho.

Correct, paladisn have no requirement to select a diety, oddly enough paladins of EVERY faith are lawful good, even those of chaotic gods.

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by fluxtorrent:

oddly enough paladins of EVERY faith are lawful good, even those of chaotic gods.

A restriction which was removed in 5th edition of D&D, allowing for any class to be any alignment.

Monks, Paladins and Rangers didn't have to be lawful, Druids didn't have to be neutral, Barbarians and Bards didn't have to be non-lawful, est.

[Jimbo The Hutt]

Originally posted by fluxtorrent:

Originally posted by Jimbo The Hutt:

In pathfinder a cleric can be an atheist and only fight for a cause, by choosing domains instead of a deity. I believe that Paladins can actually do it too...? Might be a home rule I did tho.

Correct, paladisn have no requirement to select a diety, oddly enough paladins of EVERY faith are lawful good, even those of chaotic gods.

Well, not every faith since Pathfinder has grey Paladins and anti-paladin, but yeah, it always struck me as kinda weird that a paladin of chaotic neutral faith has to be LG or they would be stripped for their power by their deity.

At least they done something about that in Pathfinder 2nd edition, by restricting deities selection to deities which allow lawful Good clerics.

[Scorpiova]

Wait - isn't Valerie's Wisdom score 10?

Maybe I mis-read that as I don't use her much. But if I am right - it makes no sense to make her a cleric or Inquis.

[GrandMajora]

Originally posted by Mystal:

Wait - isn't Valerie's Wisdom score 10?

Maybe I mis-read that as I don't use her much. But if I am right - it makes no sense to make her a cleric or Inquis.

I know, just thought it was a funny option you could go with.

[fluxtorrent]

Originally posted by GrandMajora:

Originally posted by fluxtorrent:

oddly enough paladins of EVERY faith are lawful good, even those of chaotic gods.

A restriction which was removed in 5th edition of D&D, allowing for any class to be any alignment.

Monks, Paladins and Rangers didn't have to be lawful, Druids didn't have to be neutral, Barbarians and Bards didn't have to be non-lawful, est.

irrelevant to a pathfinder game.

[Hailspork]

I think it's more like Shelyn chooses Valerie...

[Cutlass Jack]

Originally posted by GrandMajora:

I know, just thought it was a funny option you could go with.

If you really want a funny option make her a bard. Seeing as how she hates everything artistic and all. :D

Even funnier since she's actually decent at it. Doesnt get arcane failure for that bigarsed shield and decent charisma.

[Talamarie]

Ah deities and alignement restrictions... :)
Oh Bishop NWN2, how i miss you and your infidelity to gods despite the fact you're a ranger.