Pathfinder: Kingmaker

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Senkoau Aug 9, 2019 @ 6:03pm
Can you make the lizardfolk your vassals?
I just did the lost child quest and had an option to offer the lizardfolk a home in my town's but they said no we'd just become beggars. Is there someway to get them to join (alignment, actions, ?) or is it just a flat no?
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Cutlass Jack Aug 9, 2019 @ 6:06pm 
Just a flat no. Shame really. I liked them more than the goblins I got stuck with.
Pink Eye (Banned) Aug 9, 2019 @ 6:07pm 
Now why would you want that stinky lot in your kingdom? I just went ahead and killed them all! My kingdom shall NOT suffer such monsters!
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GrandMajora Aug 9, 2019 @ 6:46pm 
Originally posted by Pink Eye:
Now why would you want that stinky lot in your kingdom? I just went ahead and killed them all! My kingdom shall NOT suffer such monsters!

If Overlord has taught me anything, it's that Lizardmen would make awesome allies!

And now I want to play one... :(

https://youtu.be/pcZwA1xdbiA


Last edited by GrandMajora; Aug 9, 2019 @ 6:46pm
Pink Eye (Banned) Aug 9, 2019 @ 6:49pm 
Originally posted by GrandMajora:
Originally posted by Pink Eye:
Now why would you want that stinky lot in your kingdom? I just went ahead and killed them all! My kingdom shall NOT suffer such monsters!

If Overlord has taught me anything, it's that Lizardmen would make awesome allies!

And now I want to play one... :(

https://youtu.be/pcZwA1xdbiA
That season really really sucked. The lizard saga took forever, and then they had lizard sex.
GrandMajora Aug 9, 2019 @ 6:52pm 
Originally posted by Pink Eye:
That season really really sucked. The lizard saga took forever, and then they had lizard sex.

I rather enjoyed it. We already know Ainz and his floor guardians are between 20 to 30 levels higher than the strongest known inhabitants of the New World. It would get boring if the entire show was about them effortlessly steam rolling everything they came across.

Also, lizardman sex was hot!
Last edited by GrandMajora; Aug 9, 2019 @ 6:52pm
Senkoau Aug 9, 2019 @ 6:53pm 
Shame I'd have liked to help them out my kingdom welcomes anyone who'll live by its laws kobolds, lizardfolk, goblins, humans.
Pink Eye (Banned) Aug 9, 2019 @ 6:58pm 
Originally posted by GrandMajora:
Originally posted by Pink Eye:
That season really really sucked. The lizard saga took forever, and then they had lizard sex.

I rather enjoyed it. We already know Ainz and his floor guardians are between 20 to 30 levels higher than the strongest known inhabitants of the New World. It would get boring if the entire show was about them effortlessly steam rolling everything they came across.

Also, lizardman sex was hot!
"Also, lizardman sex was hot!" Please, we do have children that use this this site, show some my restraint!

I disagree I wanted to see MORE of Lord Ainz walking around steam rolling people, and doing evil things, while also dominating the world. I did not want to see an entire season wasted on lizard people, did they even show up in later seasons?
GrandMajora Aug 9, 2019 @ 7:36pm 
Originally posted by Pink Eye:
"Also, lizardman sex was hot!" Please, we do have children that use this this site, show some my restraint!

I disagree I wanted to see MORE of Lord Ainz walking around steam rolling people, and doing evil things, while also dominating the world. I did not want to see an entire season wasted on lizard people, did they even show up in later seasons?

I think we can ignore the children, when you consider that a Chaotic Evil capital has mutilated bodies impaled on sharpened stakes just sitting in the middle of the village.

Yes, they are training with Hamsuke to teach her martial arts, and the Lizardmen are now happily living as servants of Nazarick. Thanks to Ainz, their society is more prosperous than it's ever been.
Pink Eye (Banned) Aug 9, 2019 @ 7:38pm 
Originally posted by GrandMajora:
Originally posted by Pink Eye:
"Also, lizardman sex was hot!" Please, we do have children that use this this site, show some my restraint!

I disagree I wanted to see MORE of Lord Ainz walking around steam rolling people, and doing evil things, while also dominating the world. I did not want to see an entire season wasted on lizard people, did they even show up in later seasons?

I think we can ignore the children, when you consider that a Chaotic Evil capital has mutilated bodies impaled on sharpened stakes just sitting in the middle of the village.

Yes, they are training with Hamsuke to teach her martial arts, and the Lizardmen are now happily living as servants of Nazarick. Thanks to Ainz, their society is more prosperous than it's ever been.
heh

Anyways! I might decide to give the anime another watch. I kind of dropped it at season 2, the whole story arc about the lizard folk was so insufferably boring.
Phantom Aug 9, 2019 @ 7:39pm 
Originally posted by GrandMajora:
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I rather enjoyed it. We already know Ainz and his floor guardians are between 20 to 30 levels higher than the strongest known inhabitants of the New World. It would get boring if the entire show was about them effortlessly steam rolling everything they came across.=

Ainz and his crew are 40-60 levels above most of the strongest people they steam roll
For reference a single "legendary" undead (low low tier) summon - Death Knight - Is level 35... The hamster after leveling up is about level 30

The hamster would herself steamroll most of the worlds people the show gives you

Fluder might be level 40-50 prob, more after they make him a lich, but then hes ains

Enri after the general upgrade is probably 20s and her army is pushing 40s

Gaztef is maybe 30

The scripture has some 50-60ish

Platinum dragonlord is in the 70s to 80s

The humans invading the village at the start. So weak that a level 35 trash summon slaughters them.

Barring hidden players and special world items nothing poses a threat

Then you have to worry about the equipment they have, the best new world equipment is pretty shoddy compared to even what summons ains can just make... that alone would make his level 50's able to take out dragonlord

Then you take into account that the player created characters have designed builds with specific levels and spells learned

vs the random mash of classes and spells new world people get (for example Enri has some levels in farmer which no player would have chosen) So even if a new worlder got to level 100, and they aquired equipment which simply doesn't exist for them, they would still have at best a jack of all master of literally none builds scattered so thin they suck
Pink Eye (Banned) Aug 9, 2019 @ 7:41pm 
Originally posted by Phantom:
Originally posted by GrandMajora:
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I rather enjoyed it. We already know Ainz and his floor guardians are between 20 to 30 levels higher than the strongest known inhabitants of the New World. It would get boring if the entire show was about them effortlessly steam rolling everything they came across.=

Ainz and his crew are 40-60 levels above most of the strongest people they steam roll
For reference a single "legendary" undead (low low tier) summon - Death Knight - Is level 35... The hamster after leveling up is about level 30

The hamster would herself steamroll most of the worlds people the show gives you

Fluder might be level 40-50 prob, more after they make him a lich, but then hes ains

Enri after the general upgrade is probably 20s and her army is pushing 40s

Gaztef is maybe 30

The scripture has some 50-60ish

Platinum dragonlord is in the 70s to 80s

The humans invading the village at the start. So weak that a level 35 trash summon slaughters them.

Barring hidden players and special world items nothing poses a threat

Then you have to worry about the equipment they have, the best new world equipment is pretty shoddy compared to even what summons ains can just make... that alone would make his level 50's able to take out dragonlord

Then you take into account that the player created characters have designed builds with specific levels and spells learned

vs the random mash of classes and spells new world people get (for example Enri has some levels in farmer which no player would have chosen) So even if a new worlder got to level 100, and they aquired equipment which simply doesn't exist for them, they would still have at best a jack of all master of literally none builds scattered so thin they suck
What!
Did this guy seriously go into great detail about the power levels of the anime characters!
What!
GrandMajora Aug 9, 2019 @ 7:50pm 
Originally posted by Phantom:
Ainz and his crew are 40-60 levels above most of the strongest people they steam roll
For reference a single "legendary" undead (low low tier) summon - Death Knight - Is level 35... The hamster after leveling up is about level 30

Not quite. The strongest HUMANS in the New World are around level 30, but there are non humans who are much higher. Zesshi, the Half Elf that was playing with the Rubix Cube is level 80, and she is the strongest New World denizen that we have seen in the series so far. The Platinum Dragon Lord is somewhere in the level 60 to 70 range. It's stated that he could have become much more powerful if he truly wanted to, but he's a pacifist and neglected to train himself for combat.

According to the Overlord Wiki, a new tier of magic became available every 7 levels you possessed. With Super Tier (11th level) magic becoming available at level 70. Since Fluder is one of only 3 people in the New World who can cast 6th tier magic, we can estimate his level to be somewhere in the 40's. But even then, he's stated to be at least 200 years old, so his power was clearly not easily obtained.

Before she met Ainz, Hamsuke was somewhere in the low 30's in terms of character level. That doesn't sound all that impressive. But remember that I said the strongest humans are around level 30 as well. Meaning that Hamsuke is on par with warriors like Brain and Gazef. Even though she's played off as comic relief, she's actually extremely dangerous as far as the New World is concerned.
Cutlass Jack Aug 9, 2019 @ 8:01pm 
I was greatly amused by the lizard romance in Overlord. But I stopped watching shortly after that. Horribly murdering that group of adventurers was a line he couldn't come back from for me. It was like they felt he needed to have him do something edgelord to make up for sexy lizard storyline. :P

But oddly that wasn't the first anime I saw with Lizardman romance. I never thought that would be a trope.
GrandMajora Aug 9, 2019 @ 8:08pm 
Originally posted by Cutlass Jack:
Horribly murdering that group of adventurers was a line he couldn't come back from for me. It was like they felt he needed to have him do something edgelord to make up for sexy lizard storyline. :P

You know that his Karma rating is -500 (Extremely Evil), right?

Ainz specifically built his character for the purpose of role playing as a necromancer overlord. And upon entering the New World, his character archetype has begun to override his human personality.

Heck, he doesn't even view the people of the New World as actual people. A distinction he made very clear, when he referred to Players from Yggdrasil as "real people!"
GrandMajora Aug 9, 2019 @ 8:16pm 
Originally posted by Cutlass Jack:
Horribly murdering that group of adventurers was a line he couldn't come back from for me.

Also, if you thought him killing one party of adventurers is bad, wait until you see what he ends up doing afterward!

https://youtu.be/iUpxnsiYX40
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