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Senkoau Aug 24, 2019 @ 2:43am
Any point in doing the training for party characters?
I'm just looking to confirm or deny that the party training e.g. Linzi training, Regongar training is pretty much a BP sink as it wont do anything if you have party xp on whereas for NPC characters like the curator is worthwhile as it raises their stat?
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Fuzzyballs01 ꦙ Aug 24, 2019 @ 3:21am 
not really
late game if you have BP to spare, why the hell not
and with party xp share on you won't reach lvl 20 by the end of the game, so turning it off and training them before you take them out for a companion quest is better in my opion

and 100bp for a +1 is only really worth it later when you're swimming in it
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dulany67 Aug 24, 2019 @ 4:14am 
Originally posted by Fuzzyballs01:
not really
late game if you have BP to spare, why the hell not
and with party xp share on you won't reach lvl 20 by the end of the game, so turning it off and training them before you take them out for a companion quest is better in my opion

and 100bp for a +1 is only really worth it later when you're swimming in it
Turning off XP sharing only works if you use a party of less than 6. When sharing, all characters get a 1/6 share of experience. When not sharing, each active party member gets an equal share of experience. So a party of 6 would still get 1/6. However, in a party of 5 each member gets a 1/5 share, and so on...
Senkoau Aug 24, 2019 @ 4:43am 
That was my understanding as well about the party xp so I'm not too concerned about it (I do regret not hitting lvl 20 but such is an adventure AP and who know's maybe the random encounters will get me close).

Thanks for the advice so its only +1 that's dissapointing for 100 BP.
Miteychimp Aug 24, 2019 @ 5:29am 
it can be more than one level depending on how long you have been starving that character of xp. Each chapter has an "acceptable" level, depending on how far along you are. its there to keep options open for peeps with non traditional parties. MC and 3 mercs hoarding all the xp so you can hit 20 early for all of them, and spend bp for advisor levels. In the Before Times I used it fix Amiri after hoarding all the xp onto my MC to spawn in companions at a higher level, but there hasn't been any reason to do that for a long time.
nshawmc Aug 24, 2019 @ 8:12am 
use mod to increase the chance of random encounters and also while you are at it greatly increase their difficulty and reduce your evade chance (it's 95% default so dumb). This makes the game more fun with random challenges. And this will level you up a bit faster to help with unfair difficulty.

the mod that will do this is Bag of Tricks it is a hidden option under travel there is a tab for random encounters.

i find without these changes random encounters are a joke too easy and not frequent and you can just evade them all. (not counting the story line ones). The only issue is that with the way the game scales- adding a greater difficulty CR on these encounters will screw you at low levels similar to how the unfair difficulty setting is more difficult at lower levels. So just be aware of that. I'm talking like level 1-3
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Senkoau Aug 24, 2019 @ 1:51pm 
Personally I find the random encounters to be fine considering I"ll hit 2 or 3 just walking from my capital to Oleg's tavern and they can include such things as 6 higher level Barbarians, 3 Smilodon companions and 6 higher level druids of the multiple poison hydra.
Last edited by Senkoau; Aug 24, 2019 @ 1:52pm
Pink Eye (Banned) Aug 24, 2019 @ 1:55pm 
Originally posted by Senkoau:
Personally I find the random encounters to be fine considering I"ll hit 2 or 3 just walking from my capital to Oleg's tavern and they can include such things as 6 higher level Barbarians, 3 Smilodon companions and 6 higher level druids of the multiple poison hydra.
Ahaha, sounds about right.
Senkoau Aug 25, 2019 @ 2:22am 
Originally posted by Pink Eye:
Originally posted by Senkoau:
Personally I find the random encounters to be fine considering I"ll hit 2 or 3 just walking from my capital to Oleg's tavern and they can include such things as 6 higher level Barbarians, 3 Smilodon companions and 6 higher level druids of the multiple poison hydra.
Ahaha, sounds about right.


Out of curiosity would you say i was ahead, behind or on the levelling curve? I'm lvl9 and just finished troll trouble but haven't started season of bloom yet.
Cutlass Jack Aug 25, 2019 @ 5:00am 
Originally posted by Senkoau:
I'm just looking to confirm or deny that the party training e.g. Linzi training, Regongar training is pretty much a BP sink as it wont do anything if you have party xp on whereas for NPC characters like the curator is worthwhile as it raises their stat?

If you're talking about advisor training, it gives them +1 on their advisor rolls, exactly as it was the Storyteller. It doesn't have anything to do with their XP or level. Thats a bonus over any they get for high stats for that advisor position.

For example, if you make Linzi your curator she'll get a plus to table events you assign her to equal to her Charisma bonus. If you Do the curator training for her she'll get an additional +1 to events you assign her. Might not sound like much but its will help them screw up less on problems and opportunities in the kingdom. Its much better to do that training on them over non-companion advisors since you can also gear them for the relevant stat on top of that.

Its worth doing the training as you can afford it. But don't put off anything important in your kingdom in the early game. The bonus will be more useful later.
Cutlass Jack Aug 25, 2019 @ 5:02am 
Originally posted by Senkoau:
Out of curiosity would you say i was ahead, behind or on the levelling curve? I'm lvl9 and just finished troll trouble but haven't started season of bloom yet.

You're about where you should be.
Senkoau Aug 25, 2019 @ 6:41am 
Originally posted by Cutlass Jack:
Originally posted by Senkoau:
I'm just looking to confirm or deny that the party training e.g. Linzi training, Regongar training is pretty much a BP sink as it wont do anything if you have party xp on whereas for NPC characters like the curator is worthwhile as it raises their stat?

If you're talking about advisor training, it gives them +1 on their advisor rolls, exactly as it was the Storyteller. It doesn't have anything to do with their XP or level. Thats a bonus over any they get for high stats for that advisor position.

For example, if you make Linzi your curator she'll get a plus to table events you assign her to equal to her Charisma bonus. If you Do the curator training for her she'll get an additional +1 to events you assign her. Might not sound like much but its will help them screw up less on problems and opportunities in the kingdom. Its much better to do that training on them over non-companion advisors since you can also gear them for the relevant stat on top of that.

Its worth doing the training as you can afford it. But don't put off anything important in your kingdom in the early game. The bonus will be more useful later.

Oh so theres two types of training I'll need to keep an eye out for the advisor one then thanks. Currently savimg BP for surtova trade agreement.
GrandMajora Aug 26, 2019 @ 2:53pm 
I don't believe there is. Training costs you precious BP, which can be spent elsewhere on your kingdom. And the training missions only advance them to a specific level at certain parts in the game. The maximum level that they raise your companions is 15, which becomes pointless if your character is already beyond 15 at that point.

Once you get to the House of Knives, all your party members are boosted up to your MC's level for free. So even if you're playing with a favorite set of party members, the ones you chose to ignore will still be able to catch up in levels by the time you get to the final chapter. The only thing you may need to worry about is equipping them with proper gear.
Pink Eye (Banned) Aug 26, 2019 @ 3:00pm 
"Precious BP", is really not precious at all. You can stock pile so much gold in this game, that it's stupid. Anyways, with the amount of gold that you can stock pile you can just buy boatloads of BP.
Senkoau Aug 26, 2019 @ 4:45pm 
I just bought a thousand BP to make the trade agreement with Surtova.
GrandMajora Aug 26, 2019 @ 5:34pm 
Originally posted by Senkoau:
I just bought a thousand BP to make the trade agreement with Surtova.

That's okay, you can find 1,000 BP in Ilthuliak's horde!
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