The Archer

[WC?]

Just tried it for the first time and..... HOLY TABLETOP STYLE LRM ATTACKS BATMAN! I think every missile, or damn close hit the same spot, that thing is lethal as hell. This thing is going to be so very useful for ambush convoy.

[wwiiogre]

Yeah LRM's are the bomb on convoy ambushes. One mech with 30+ LRM's usually will destroy one vehicle per turn even with full hitpoints. 3 Mechs deal with escort, LRM boat destroys convoy. Have fastest mech get in front of convoy for spotting and to kill stragglers if needed.

Chris

[WC?]

Yah but before you had to make sure to shoot it in the side or your LRM's would scatter all over the front and side armor. Now you can just blast it with your archer and be fairly sure the LRM will all smash right through whatever side you are shooting from. This thing is a damn beast.

[BourneGamer]

It also makes called LRM shots a viable option if you can't get to a flanking position.

[WC?]

Originally posted by BourneGamer:

It also makes called LRM shots a viable option if you can't get to a flanking position.

Waitaminute............. Can I LRM headshot now? Is this a thing? Can I just get like a stream of 40 LRM to fly into their face?

[titanopteryx]

Originally posted by Buzzard Burbridge:

Originally posted by BourneGamer:

It also makes called LRM shots a viable option if you can't get to a flanking position.

Waitaminute............. Can I LRM headshot now? Is this a thing? Can I just get like a stream of 40 LRM to fly into their face?

Actually if you indirect fire the enemy mech the missiles will arc up and land on the enemy mech's head. I don't know if that actually effects the chance to hit the head numbers-wise, but visually it looks like it would.

[Valen]

Yea - I tried the archer as well - However, I like jump jets and If I put jump jets on the archer, had to down grade to twin lrm 15's. If I wanted some backup weapon systems... 4 medium Lazers.

I have a Catapult with twin lrm 15's, a large lazer, and flamer with jump jets...

What I am trying to say is - That I can mount a better weapon configuration on the catapult then the Archer - Archer does have a little bit more armor going for it though.

[BourneGamer]

Originally posted by Buzzard Burbridge:

Originally posted by BourneGamer:

It also makes called LRM shots a viable option if you can't get to a flanking position.

Waitaminute............. Can I LRM headshot now? Is this a thing? Can I just get like a stream of 40 LRM to fly into their face?

I'm not sure if it's gonna be that precise, but, I did get a 30 round salvo all in a Hunchback's right torso from an idirect front arc.

[WC?]

Originally posted by Valen:

Yea - I tried the archer as well - However, I like jump jets and If I put jump jets on the archer, had to down grade to twin lrm 15's. If I wanted some backup weapon systems... 4 medium Lazers.

I have a Catapult with twin lrm 15's, a large lazer, and flamer with jump jets...

What I am trying to say is - That I can mount a better weapon configuration on the catapult then the Archer - Archer does have a little bit more armor going for it though.

Archer is not supposed to mount jets, it does not need them. If you are mounting jets on it you are gimping it. If you have piloting 7 it can run fast enough on its own. Its a missile boat so it isn't hard to position it. I seriously don't get players that just NEED to have jets on every single mech.

I honestly just upgraded all its guns to quality versions, and left its stock config plus some gyro and cockpit mod. It really does not need to be modified much its original concept is sound.

[titanopteryx]

Originally posted by Valen:

Yea - I tried the archer as well - However, I like jump jets and If I put jump jets on the archer, had to down grade to twin lrm 15's. If I wanted some backup weapon systems... Lazers.

I have a Catapult with twin lrm 15's, a large lazer, and flamer with jump jets...

What I am trying to say is - That I can mount a better weapon configuration on the catapult then the Archer - Archer does have a little bit more armor going for it though.

I also found that to be the case. It doesn't have the tonnage to mount enough lrms as I'd like, but the extra bonus from the mech's special effect might offset that. I haven't done the math to figure that out, since math is evil. I mean that. Supervillains coldly calculate master plans that take years to bear fruit. I've never seen Superman do a math problem.

[WC?]

Originally posted by titanopteryx:

Originally posted by Valen:

Yea - I tried the archer as well - However, I like jump jets and If I put jump jets on the archer, had to down grade to twin lrm 15's. If I wanted some backup weapon systems... Lazers.

I have a Catapult with twin lrm 15's, a large lazer, and flamer with jump jets...

What I am trying to say is - That I can mount a better weapon configuration on the catapult then the Archer - Archer does have a little bit more armor going for it though.

I also found that to be the case. It doesn't have the tonnage to mount enough lrms as I'd like, but the extra bonus from the mech's special effect might offset that. I haven't done the math to figure that out, since math is evil. I mean that. Supervillains coldly calculate master plans that take years to bear fruit. I've never seen Superman do a math problem.

Superman is a gary stu. He does not need to do the math. He can just OP powerlevel all his foes or worst case scenario reverse time in the most absurd way possible.

[Harukage]

Have you tried it with Narc beacon?

[MortVent]

Originally posted by Harukage:

Have you tried it with Narc beacon?

Scout mech with narc++ (even more accuracy and damage), archer with +2 damage dual lrm20s.... gives bad rain a whole new meaning

[danko9696]

Originally posted by Buzzard Burbridge:

Yah but before you had to make sure to shoot it in the side or your LRM's would scatter all over the front and side armor. Now you can just blast it with your archer and be fairly sure the LRM will all smash right through whatever side you are shooting from. This thing is a damn beast.

No, shots don't scatter all over the front. Well, they do to some extent but it's not an issue because vehicles have much fewer hit locations than mechs, so having tighter groups is not nearly as good against vehicles as against mechs. That's the reason why LRMs are so good in general against vehicles in general.

[WC?]

I have found 2 narc ammo so far but have yet to find the actual launcher. I can't wait.

[WC?]

Originally posted by danko9696:

Originally posted by Buzzard Burbridge:

Yah but before you had to make sure to shoot it in the side or your LRM's would scatter all over the front and side armor. Now you can just blast it with your archer and be fairly sure the LRM will all smash right through whatever side you are shooting from. This thing is a damn beast.

No, shots don't scatter all over the front. Well, they do to some extent but it's not an issue because vehicles have much fewer hit locations than mechs, so having tighter groups is not nearly as good against vehicles as against mechs. That's the reason why LRMs are so good in general against vehicles in general.

Every time I shoot LRM at vehicles from the front the missiles scatter all over the front, both sides, and the turret. Damn things turn red on all sides before they decide to actually die. No, if its LRM on vehicles it has to be a flanking shot to do it efficiently. Sure you could rely on luck but then the thing might survive another turn and get a shot off. But all this changes with the archer.