А вообще да - перевод на русский нужен, играть увы не смог бегая каждые 10 минут за переводом списка слов.

Originally posted by zeno:

Originally posted by Dr. Jester:

I don't know what the problem is, they made fun of two socialist ideologies(communism and fascism).

pepe propagandists could be a new political alignment in this game. vacuous nihilists and lonely nerds who can only communicate (desperately) by repeating bullet-point falsehoods ad nauseum under the banner of an image they stole and perverted. such mundane provocation is all they know. everybody around them either thinks they're idiot scum or they become another pepe propagandist clone.

Imagine not knowing history...
https://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/Fascism.html

lol

Originally posted by Greatjon Umber:

What if I'm completely full of ♥♥♥♥ and just lie and pretend to be all of them depending on what the situation calls for?

I do believe that makes you an Ultraliberal. Adaptation is the key to survival and all of that.

I heavily disagree with communism and many of the things that CTH has said I find despicable, but I still want this game. I've seen enough of this game to know that it can challenges your views and I for one am looking forward to it doing so. I'm just happy that the devs are open about their bias, unlike many other companies. I appreciate the honesty and will be getting this game soon.

It's kinda sad that while three of those are quite nuanced, fascism is treated like a giant pastiche. "Lol dumb knuckledragging alcoholic incel proles". Marinetti, Pound, Junger and even Heidegger were fascists, you know, and people like Chesterton were traditionalist, so maybe there's something more there. Could have been interesting. Instead one of the four fundamental political trends of this world is pure comic relief.

Then again, ZAUM are quite open about being communists, so no hard feelings.

Originally posted by Subspace Dandy:

It's kinda sad that while three of those are quite nuanced, fascism is treated like a giant pastiche. "Lol dumb knuckledragging alcoholic incel proles". Marinetti, Pound, Junger and even Heidegger were fascists, you know, and people like Chesterton were traditionalist, so maybe there's something more there. Could have been interesting. Instead one of the four fundamental political trends of this world is pure comic relief.

Then again, ZAUM are quite open about being communists, so no hard feelings.

Literally all of those descriptors are ridiculing their respective ideologies. You can even RP as a Pound-style fascist if that's what you wanna do, with radical anticapitalism and ultranationalism hand in hand, so you have nothing to complain about.

^ how does this happen to people? honestly, though. the brain worms...

Originally posted by Joseph Moestar:

Gotcha, so you're upset they didn't present fascism's good sides while making fun of it. Totally proved me wrong there, friendo! I am absolutely not suspicious of your political leanings now!

No, I clearly said what I'm upset about, don't put words in my mouth. Also you shouldn't dismiss the opinion of someone no matter what his (perceived) political leanings might be, that's the point.

Originally posted by Jdub_in_Phila:

Originally posted by Subspace Dandy:

It's kinda sad that while three of those are quite nuanced, fascism is treated like a giant pastiche. "Lol dumb knuckledragging alcoholic incel proles". Marinetti, Pound, Junger and even Heidegger were fascists, you know, and people like Chesterton were traditionalist, so maybe there's something more there. Could have been interesting. Instead one of the four fundamental political trends of this world is pure comic relief.

Then again, ZAUM are quite open about being communists, so no hard feelings.

Literally all of those descriptors are ridiculing their respective ideologies. You can even RP as a Pound-style fascist if that's what you wanna do, with radical anticapitalism and ultranationalism hand in hand, so you have nothing to complain about.

Nope. If you play through the game, three other ideologies kinda have a point and are nuanced, with upsides and downsides and complicated history. They also have articulate, well-meaning, complicated people to speak on their behalf. Kim is moralist, Pines rep is liberal, there's a lot of loveable commie characters who are actual complicated people. There's literally four "fascists" in the game: an ugly, stupid lorry driver, a comical racist bonehead, a sleazy loser and an old senile man. Plus the game literally tells you that the only real reason you can be right-wing is if chicks deny you sex and/or you harbor irrational hatred towards yellow people. Three other ideologies are fleshed out alt-modernist interpretations of the real things. Fascism is just a caricature. My point is that it basically detracts from the game.

nah

Originally posted by Subspace Dandy:

Originally posted by Jdub_in_Phila:

Literally all of those descriptors are ridiculing their respective ideologies. You can even RP as a Pound-style fascist if that's what you wanna do, with radical anticapitalism and ultranationalism hand in hand, so you have nothing to complain about.

Nope. If you play through the game, three other ideologies kinda have a point and are nuanced, with upsides and downsides and complicated history. They also have articulate, well-meaning, complicated people to speak on their behalf. Kim is moralist, Pines rep is liberal, there's a lot of loveable commie characters who are actual complicated people. There's literally four "fascists" in the game: an ugly, stupid lorry driver, a comical racist bonehead, a sleazy loser and an old senile man. Plus the game literally tells you that the only real reason you can be right-wing is if chicks deny you sex and/or you harbor irrational hatred towards yellow people. Three other ideologies are fleshed out alt-modernist interpretations of the real things. Fascism is just a caricature. My point is that it basically detracts from the game.

No it doesn't, in the game of the age of fascism came and went, it was portrayed as an ideology that was dead in the water because it was the era of of stodgy militaristic men like Rene, it's come and gone.
And regardless, it's portrayed as that because that's what fascism is in essence, being afraid of foreigners and ethnic people. Don't like it? Then ♥♥♥♥ off with your dumbass apologia.

Originally posted by I Lust for Super Mutant Dong:

And regardless, it's portrayed as that because that's what fascism is in essence, being afraid of foreigners and ethnic people.

You confuse racism with fascism. Fear has nothing to do with either.

This game has the same problem as Tides of Numenara... instead of making me care, it just expects that I will, because it's superficially similar to a game I liked. Then it just throws in a bunch of random things to make it seem profound.

Good role playing system, but wasted on a script for sophomoric try hards.

Originally posted by I Lust for Super Mutant Dong:

Originally posted by Subspace Dandy:

Nope. If you play through the game, three other ideologies kinda have a point and are nuanced, with upsides and downsides and complicated history. They also have articulate, well-meaning, complicated people to speak on their behalf. Kim is moralist, Pines rep is liberal, there's a lot of loveable commie characters who are actual complicated people. There's literally four "fascists" in the game: an ugly, stupid lorry driver, a comical racist bonehead, a sleazy loser and an old senile man. Plus the game literally tells you that the only real reason you can be right-wing is if chicks deny you sex and/or you harbor irrational hatred towards yellow people. Three other ideologies are fleshed out alt-modernist interpretations of the real things. Fascism is just a caricature. My point is that it basically detracts from the game.

No it doesn't, in the game of the age of fascism came and went, it was portrayed as an ideology that was dead in the water because it was the era of of stodgy militaristic men like Rene, it's come and gone.
And regardless, it's portrayed as that because that's what fascism is in essence, being afraid of foreigners and ethnic people. Don't like it? Then ♥♥♥♥ off with your dumbass apologia.

No, fascism is socialism.