I really want to play this game but...

[SkullBukul]

the publishers here on Steam have stolen this game from its original creators and purchasing the game also means supporting these people. People in forums say to just pirate the game, but I don't really feel like installing a bunch of malware on my system.

[Korhal]

Care to share some proof for that?

[AdamM]

Originally posted by Korhal:

Care to share some proof for that?

Oh do your own research for goodness sake. It's not hard to find.

[SkullBukul]

Originally posted by Korhal:

Care to share some proof to that?

The creators posted this blog [medium.com] ... From what I remember, the Ilmar guy, who has ownership of the studio, fired the creators themselves from their own company, and the company was bought using the creators' money garnered from the earnings of this game. This news is pretty big. Surprised you didn't know.

[GuffBall]

Originally posted by SkullBukul:

Originally posted by Korhal:

Care to share some proof to that?

The creators posted this blog [medium.com] ... From what I remember, the Ilmar guy, who has ownership of the studio, fired the creators themselves from their own company, and the company was bought using the creators' money garnered from the earnings of this game. This news is pretty big. Surprised you didn't know.

At the time the creators owned a minority shareholding in the company so it wasn't their own company was it?

[SkullBukul]

Originally posted by GuffBall:

Originally posted by SkullBukul:

The creators posted this blog [medium.com] ... From what I remember, the Ilmar guy, who has ownership of the studio, fired the creators themselves from their own company, and the company was bought using the creators' money garnered from the earnings of this game. This news is pretty big. Surprised you didn't know.

At the time the creators owned a minority shareholding in the company so it wasn't their own company was it?

It was. Kurvitz and Rostov (the creators) along with their team built Za/Um as a company. But in the beginning, someone was funding them until a part of the studio was sold to that Ilmar guy when they could no longer fund the company. At least, that's what I heard from people.

[Dopey Shepard]

hey its now 90% off so even if you buy it here, very little will go to the thieves. At least that's gotta be some consolation, no?

[The Sylvan Learning Center]

Originally posted by SkullBukul:

the publishers here on Steam have stolen this game from its original creators and purchasing the game also means supporting these people. People in forums say to just pirate the game, but I don't really feel like installing a bunch of malware on my system.

Then it sounds like ur screwed mate

[Dopey Shepard]

Originally posted by The Sylvan Learning Center:

Originally posted by SkullBukul:

the publishers here on Steam have stolen this game from its original creators and purchasing the game also means supporting these people. People in forums say to just pirate the game, but I don't really feel like installing a bunch of malware on my system.

Then it sounds like ur screwed mate :benny:

yeah no worries I already bought it a long time ago, cuz fk it

[SkullBukul]

Originally posted by The Sylvan Learning Center:

Originally posted by SkullBukul:

the publishers here on Steam have stolen this game from its original creators and purchasing the game also means supporting these people. People in forums say to just pirate the game, but I don't really feel like installing a bunch of malware on my system.

Then it sounds like ur screwed mate :benny:

Yeah no... Already bought the game unfortunately taking Dopey Shepard's advice, and played it for 8 hours straight none stop It's soo good

[Dopey Shepard]

Hey, I actually helped somebody, nice))

[Roe Jogan]

Whooooooo cares

[GuffBall]

Originally posted by SkullBukul:

Originally posted by GuffBall:

At the time the creators owned a minority shareholding in the company so it wasn't their own company was it?

It was. Kurvitz and Rostov (the creators) along with their team built Za/Um as a company. But in the beginning, someone was funding them until a part of the studio was sold to that Ilmar guy when they could no longer fund the company. At least, that's what I heard from people.

I can't remember the exactly figures by there were three main shareholders with the devs holding a minority stake so presumably this was how the got the funding to develop the game to completion. The problem came when one of the shareholders wanted to get rid of their stake and another of the shareholders bought it giving them a majority holding and so control of the company.

Then it gets worse as it turns out that holding ended up being paid for by the company itself.

That's certainly bad of course but at the time this happened the devs didn't own the game and they also, as far as I'm aware, didn't own the IP.

All a shame really as I'd have loved to see a DE:II but that doesn't look as though that's ever going to happen.

[Dopey Shepard]

Btw just for the future please do refrain from using the P word you said in the title, you may get a permanent ban on a game hub by talking about these kind of topics and instead say "sail the high seas". The latter seems to work

Also, just in case, P-ing (sailing the high seas) rarely ever gets any malware on your system. If you go after trusted "persons of interest" they will not be putting any malware in their stuff. Fitgirl and Dodi are your friends

[Fel]

Originally posted by Roe Jogan:

Whooooooo cares

Big surprise you're from Texas. Aah just kididng, that's no surprise...

[xENDx OLYMPUS]

Originally posted by Roe Jogan:

Whooooooo cares

I care, lil bro.