Disco Elysium

Disco Elysium

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MisterFister 2023 年 7 月 12 日 上午 9:19
"OH, you're one of those people" - Racist Mug
Found the racist mug and I answer with an option that maybe people should learn to laugh a little more and I get the comment from the game "Oh, you're one of those people" and shuts down anything else I can do with it. From the looks of the mug it was just an asian man with one of those straw circle hats. You know, something resembling a CULTURE of people? The only reason to even assume the mug is racist is because the game tells you it's racist.

I see mugs and beers and foods with typical German/Polish/Italian images all the time in real life. There is no reason to feel offended by any of it.

I thought it was a reasonable answer. Is this the kind of guilt tripping and judging this game is gonna throw at me all throughout the game? Because if so, I'm just going to get my refund since I am still under 2 hours. This seems to be propaganda disguised as good writing.
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Bazil 2023 年 7 月 12 日 上午 9:58 
I like the way you think, he says that you are asked questions during the passage, and you think and reason about the answer, YES MR. Horizon Forbidden West
skullymex 2023 年 7 月 12 日 上午 10:27 
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Lmao yeah get out while you can before the game brainwashes you into being a decent human being.
BoozeNMetaL 2023 年 7 月 12 日 下午 12:54 
No. Don't do it! Believe me. You have to keep playing. Just put all your points on Endurance and wait until you turn into "The Icebreaker". You are going to love being "The Icebreaker"
MisterFister 2023 年 7 月 12 日 下午 1:01 
引用自 skullymex
Lmao yeah get out while you can before the game brainwashes you into being a decent human being.

This is exactly the type of judgment I don't really need to hear from you or bad games with forced writing.
skullymex 2023 年 7 月 12 日 下午 1:03 
引用自 MisterFister
引用自 skullymex
Lmao yeah get out while you can before the game brainwashes you into being a decent human being.

This is exactly the type of judgment I don't really need to hear from you or bad games with forced writing.
Animal Crossing might be more your level then. Maybe give that one a try.
MisterFister 2023 年 7 月 12 日 下午 1:57 
引用自 skullymex
引用自 MisterFister

This is exactly the type of judgment I don't really need to hear from you or bad games with forced writing.
Animal Crossing might be more your level then. Maybe give that one a try.

Hey man, sorry I pooped on your favorite game. I know I hurt your feelings but you will get over it.
Chris 2023 年 7 月 14 日 上午 4:13 
引用自 MisterFister
Found the racist mug and I answer with an option that maybe people should learn to laugh a little more and I get the comment from the game "Oh, you're one of those people" and shuts down anything else I can do with it. From the looks of the mug it was just an asian man with one of those straw circle hats. You know, something resembling a CULTURE of people? The only reason to even assume the mug is racist is because the game tells you it's racist.

I see mugs and beers and foods with typical German/Polish/Italian images all the time in real life. There is no reason to feel offended by any of it.

I thought it was a reasonable answer. Is this the kind of guilt tripping and judging this game is gonna throw at me all throughout the game? Because if so, I'm just going to get my refund since I am still under 2 hours. This seems to be propaganda disguised as good writing.
Considering the state of modern gaming, this one is really tame in that regard. At this point you should have a tougher shell about games being preachy or only stick to classics. I honestly think this is not that bad considering how much politics they add in and mischaracterize every ideology
最後修改者:Chris; 2023 年 7 月 14 日 上午 4:38
MisterFister 2023 年 7 月 14 日 上午 11:50 
After finding a video with the writers of this game thanking Marx and Engels I got a refund. I think it's hilarious because Marx and Engels were both -extremely- racist. It just goes to show you that the writers of this game have no idea what they are talking about.
Spears 2023 年 7 月 14 日 下午 2:00 
引用自 MisterFister
After finding a video with the writers of this game thanking Marx and Engels I got a refund. I think it's hilarious because Marx and Engels were both -extremely- racist. It just goes to show you that the writers of this game have no idea what they are talking about.

ive noticed this too. I am jaded and callous enough to not care about these things so much but its obvious the writers are trying to attack me without even knowing what I believe or really think--all while having their own personal mythologies of what they believe that are debased from reality and who they claim to be inspired by.

one of the worst offenses so far me was when kim just HAD to speak up and clear the air the "men and women are physically equal to each other!!"

its immersion breaking and some mentally ill tr*nny used it as an opportunity to stick it to the "racist evil white misogynists." and couldn't even appropriately virtue signal in a dialogue they themselves ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ wrote.

another would be funny thing was when my character gets hungry and entertains the thought that his life is bad because women aren't in the kitchen making him food, so fascism is the answer. German letters and pronunciation was used in this sequence as well. This could have been funny but it wasn't, as it was yet another example of "oh right wingers are so stupid they cant even feed themselves."

There is truth in this, and in US history we were taught that hitler was elected because of economic hyperinflation, causing germans at the time to need wheelbarrows full of printed currency just to buy bread. They blamed the jews and elected hitler. It was not completely irrational and pretty predictable outcome. Being completely ignorant of this factor pretty much guarantees that no one learned from their mistakes, and that people who are suffering starvation can become easily radicalized. This sure as hell goes both ways. . Instead the writers rejected or are unaware that Communism is synonymous with starvation.

I just added more depth to a point they weren't even trying to make, and even doing this gives them too much credit. The point they were making was "lol just cook your own dinner dude lmao"

they censor the word f*ggot too which is funny since they aren't even doing it ironically. like who the ♥♥♥♥ are you appealing to. what kind of weak minded f*ggot does this appease. this is disrespectful to actual gay f*ggots to assume they are so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ weak and fragile that the simple word would cause them intolerable pain to hear in a fictionalized setting when the comments are being directed at an inanimate corpse. like why even write the word f*ggot in the script?? to ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ virtue signal "oh we aren't ACTUALLY going to say the bad no no word we will prove it to you that we would never say this word by implying its the word in the script but then censoring it."

jesus christ what psychotic evil k*ke could ever come up with such contrived mind games to prove they love f*ggots so much. you'd have to be a dumb ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ gorilla n*gg*r to not even see through this.

Citations for my Critical Disco-Elysium Theory:
https://youtu.be/4hyR-Sh-W9U
https://youtu.be/uqwj--wGEgY
Charli Harvey 2023 年 7 月 14 日 下午 4:01 
lol this thread is just the exact people disco elysium was designed to criticise going "help! the game has themes! it's making my head hurt!!". i'm honestly perplexed that anyone here got this far like the entire game start to finish is a tactical ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ instant takedown of specifically you.
Spears 2023 年 7 月 14 日 下午 6:29 
引用自 Charlo
lol this thread is just the exact people disco elysium was designed to criticise going "help! the game has themes! it's making my head hurt!!". i'm honestly perplexed that anyone here got this far like the entire game start to finish is a tactical ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ instant takedown of specifically you.

the themes don't make my head hurt. I understand everything completely. I am not misinformed. Its not even a tactical take-down. I will use slurs for shock content because I am entertained by the responses they sometimes illicit. I am more phishing for comical responses. My objective is to make people laugh through absurdity

I am not sure if you are able to understand that is what I am doing. I think you are the one who doesn't really understand what I think. How could you? I don't think the game does either, as its trapped in the dichotomy of "left" vs "right" with the middle position being overt "comedic relief." I think this because there is an absence of any platonic positions, despite this game containing a quote about Platonics in the opening.
FILLin 2023 年 7 月 15 日 上午 7:48 
Very sorry for you getting so traumatized by one line of dialogue in the game
oddball 2023 年 7 月 17 日 上午 9:46 
引用自 MisterFister
After finding a video with the writers of this game thanking Marx and Engels I got a refund. I think it's hilarious because Marx and Engels were both -extremely- racist. It just goes to show you that the writers of this game have no idea what they are talking about.

Imagine being this mad about a game that literally uniquely among modern games lets you play as literally a fascist and a racist without judging it any more than they do every other viewpoint.

Kim disagrees with you but a) you can still win the game with good outcomes even if Kim thinks you're a hardcore nationalist and racist (proof: I did) and b) who gives a ♥♥♥♥, people disagree about things.
oddball 2023 年 7 月 17 日 上午 9:47 
or in cuno's words: stop being a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥♥
oddball 2023 年 7 月 17 日 上午 9:54 
I mean my god the literal strongest guy in the game is a massive black guy who is super racist. Your choices for dealing with him are: be stronger, go around him or if you're too much of a ♥♥♥♥♥ to do either then you have to internalize his racism. Then there's a soldier who is a super fascist and a total badass. There's cuno and cunoesse who say every offensive thing they can as fast as they can. There's fat racist lorry driver who is a ♥♥♥♥♥ and the gamer version of racist: is fat, pathetic, and uses racism to avoid taking responsibility for his own issues. And then there's science guy who is shown as a decent human being who likes racism on the side.

Meanwhile every depiction of communists shows them as pathetic little kids or crazy people or gangsters looking to rob others. Liberals are show as jargon spewing and totally indifferent to anyone other than themselves. Anarchists are just kinda whacked out of their mind.

Everyone gets the piss taken out of them in this game and that's what makes it so fantastic.

Of course if you're easily triggered I can see how that might hurt.
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