thoughs or skills?

[Husyta]

Hi I am new player ( one day in game). I have a question. Should I invest points in thoughts ( this one for which one need to wait hours) or skills. I started with intelect build and it's still unclear for me when and in what invest points. Thoughts seems more powerfull but we never know what will be the effect. And please without any spoilers :P Thanks in advance and sorry for my english :)

[Calico-Jack]

The best advice I can give you is to pick something you think sounds fun.

[chris.ferrantegerard]

I'd suggest keeping level up points in reserve if possible. Then you if find yourself stuck somewhere with a locked failed white skill check, you can easily level up the skill to unlock the white check to try again.

Thoughts can have useful upgrades but kind of hard to know if one is worth learning atm without reviewing wiki to see what they do. Combined with the fact that it costs a level up point to remove an internalized thought and unlearned thought is gone forever, pretty annoying, would have been better if game told you what learned skill did imo. Worth learning thoughts overall, but make sure to keep some points reserved for skill upgrades.

[Potches]

Just winging it myself. After I learned to accept that not passing all skill checks, the game became more enjoyable and less frustrating. Also rerolled for a more deviant personality, it can add so much personalized flavor

[Husyta]

Originally posted by chris.ferrantegerard:

I'd suggest keeping level up points in reserve if possible. Then you if find yourself stuck somewhere with a locked failed white skill check, you can easily level up the skill to unlock the white check to try again.

Thoughts can have useful upgrades but kind of hard to know if one is worth learning atm without reviewing wiki to see what they do. Combined with the fact that it costs a level up point to remove an internalized thought and unlearned thought is gone forever, pretty annoying, would have been better if game told you what learned skill did imo. Worth learning thoughts overall, but make sure to keep some points reserved for skill upgrades.

So how many points should I keep in reserve just in case?

[RACHMANOVSKI]

Originally posted by Husyta:

Originally posted by chris.ferrantegerard:

I'd suggest keeping level up points in reserve if possible. Then you if find yourself stuck somewhere with a locked failed white skill check, you can easily level up the skill to unlock the white check to try again.

Thoughts can have useful upgrades but kind of hard to know if one is worth learning atm without reviewing wiki to see what they do. Combined with the fact that it costs a level up point to remove an internalized thought and unlearned thought is gone forever, pretty annoying, would have been better if game told you what learned skill did imo. Worth learning thoughts overall, but make sure to keep some points reserved for skill upgrades.

So how many points should I keep in reserve just in case?

One or two.

BUT. Do not disheartened if you failed the check. Failure in this game is fun.

[Du-Vu]

I'd advise choosing a few skills, like 3-4, that you want to be your mains, and try and build those up to around 5-6 by the early game, about 8-10+ by the late game, supplemented with clothes and drugs on top. Then you can mete out your other SP as needed -- thoughts do give bonuses as well, and you might want to bump up other skills as needed to pass red checks or unlock white ones.

That's just my personal broad guideline, though. Depending on your playstyle and how thoroughly you go through the quests, you might have a lot more SP to play with, and can be a lot more free with how you spend them. If so, you can also think about getting to 13-14+ with 1-2 skills. There's a little unique content for each skill that you only get to see if you're nearly maxed (the highest checks in the game being 18-20, iirc).

[Calico-Jack]

Originally posted by Potches:

Just winging it myself. After I learned to accept that not passing all skill checks, the game became more enjoyable and less frustrating. Also rerolled for a more deviant personality, it can add so much personalized flavor

Exactly - the journey is the point rather than the destination.