Disco Elysium

Disco Elysium

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Xcogumelo Nov 2, 2019 @ 7:13am
What is the meaning of Disco?
Because english is not my First language I think I didnt get the meaning of Disco in this game. Is it a cultural movemment? A time period in this game?

As far as I know disco is just Disco mudic from the 70's. I'm on day 2.
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Du-Vu Nov 2, 2019 @ 7:24am 
You're not missing anything specific to English, as far as I'm aware. Disco was, if anything, more of a movement in other countries and for a much longer period of time than in the west.

To me it seemed like it was being used here as more of a metaphor for freewheeling youthful optimism and energy than any specific ideology, but I could be missing something myself.
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Wokelander Nov 2, 2019 @ 7:40am 
It's a metaphor for a youthful, care-free zeitgeist that ultimately failed to give it's adherents any meaningful life content, I'd say.
I guess it's a bit like growing up being told you can be anything you want and then realising it doesn't mean anything because your world is actually on fire and there's nothing you can do about it
Du-Vu Nov 2, 2019 @ 8:27am 
It seems rich with *meaning*, just maybe not... practical life/work experience. But I'd say that's part of the metaphor too. Life cannot be only about work or ideology, or you risk turning into the Evrarts and Iosef Lilianovich Droses of the world. Time you've enjoyed wasting is not wasted, and all that.
Lackluster Nov 2, 2019 @ 11:51am 
I agree with the previous posts, the only significance to the word may be that it's kind of sad. A doomed fad.
LotR[Henchman] Nov 3, 2019 @ 3:25am 
Originally posted by Du-Vu:
You're not missing anything specific to English, as far as I'm aware. Disco was, if anything, more of a movement in other countries and for a much longer period of time than in the west.

To me it seemed like it was being used here as more of a metaphor for freewheeling youthful optimism and energy than any specific ideology, but I could be missing something myself.

Well to understand any subculture, one needs to compare it to other subcultures.
And in that you actually describe disco in comparison to the other subculture directly before/during/directly after disco.
I'd only say you're missing the sexual revolution, acceptance of drug, with a deep escapism and the usage of 'novel' technologies (synths; synthetic fibres) somewhat ;)

Then again i haven't studied 'Disco', but i think the wikipedia article gives a good idea on what disco was besides music.
Du-Vu Nov 3, 2019 @ 6:56am 
I mean, none of those things are really unique to disco. Apart from maybe the synthetic fabrics. But it's because it's both distinctive and short-lived that it makes a particularly good metaphor. Where hippies and punks and hipsters are still around, changing with the times, being reborn into the next generation, and the eighties are surging right now, disco is still dead. And that makes it kind of poignant.
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LotR[Henchman] Nov 3, 2019 @ 1:34pm 
Originally posted by Du-Vu:
I mean, none of those things are really unique to disco. Apart from maybe the synthetic fabrics. But it's because it's both distinctive and short-lived that it makes a particularly good metaphor. Where hippies and punks and hipsters are still around, changing with the times, being reborn into the next generation, and the eighties are surging right now, disco is still dead. And that makes it kind of poignant.

Well disco is somewhat unique in that the mix of these things isn't in any other thing... but sure, all overlaps to some extent and is influenced by the environment.
I mean e.g. Bachs Toccata and Fuge in D mino also hasn't got a singular unqiue tone in it - but as a mix...

I'm not to sure disco is dead.
Disco wasn't, imo, that much about the actual music or clothes. It was about hedonistic life enjoyment and dancing - and you'll find that plentiful in modern dance music. New tones, new drugs, new moves - but an overall old view, don't you think?
Again i haven't studied disco - so i might mistake what was discos quintessential essence - but i'd say it was more about being "modern and consuming" than other subcultures - therefore it's clearly sheading more feathers when reborn?
Though if you compare Black Sabbath with modern Metal or the Beatles with modern rock (and therefore dozens of 'sub-genres') - i'd still say there's also quite a lot of change going on.
Du-Vu Nov 3, 2019 @ 1:55pm 
"Modern and consuming" was more of an '80s' thing. Wall Street, 'Greed is good', that whole era. But a hedonistic lifestyle and dance music didn't begin or end with disco either, is what I'm saying, and people who are into the former were, and seemingly still are, quick to distance themselves from disco, unlike kids who still call themselves punks or goths, or folk or swing revival. Nobody has earnestly revived disco and been taken seriously (until now, maybe?). That's the difference.

"Disco's dead" or "deader than disco" are just old catchphrases that came about because of how abruptly the disco craze ended.
LotR[Henchman] Nov 4, 2019 @ 2:03pm 
Originally posted by Du-Vu:
"Modern and consuming" was more of an '80s' thing. Wall Street, 'Greed is good', that whole era. But a hedonistic lifestyle and dance music didn't begin or end with disco either, is what I'm saying, and people who are into the former were, and seemingly still are, quick to distance themselves from disco, unlike kids who still call themselves punks or goths, or folk or swing revival. Nobody has earnestly revived disco and been taken seriously (until now, maybe?). That's the difference.

"Disco's dead" or "deader than disco" are just old catchphrases that came about because of how abruptly the disco craze ended.

Well in the 80's you also had still a lot of counter consumption going on - so not really universially.
I'd say it was also the beginning/hightime of a lot of less optimistic subcultures. (No wonder given cernobyl and such).

Sure disco is dead - but that's imo just because disco was about being modern - and no one today could be modern by calling the culture he follows modern and wearing old clothes and such - so again reborn in different feathers.
Du-Vu Nov 4, 2019 @ 5:22pm 
I'm just telling you the history, how it was treated at the time.

I'm not saying that modernity, hedonism, and so forth died with disco, just that none of those things by themselves are inherently unique to disco, in part because later movements have chosen to voluntarily disassociate themselves from music, fashion, and very name of disco. You had some subcultural anti-consumer culture stuff in the '80s, sure, and I mentioned punk already. But no hardcore '80s punk was going to call themselves disco. A few '90s industrial/techno emcees might admit the influence, Daft Punk's 'Get Lucky' is one of a few disco-esque tracks in recent memory, but it's still not the same as a persistent, recurrent movement like punks or hippies.
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Holografix Nov 4, 2019 @ 7:16pm 
'Disco' should be explained in connection with 'Elysium,' as in 'Disco Elysium.'

+2 Encyclopedia
+1 Rhetoric

In ancient greece, Elysium was like a paradise, a place in the afterlife reserved only for mortals related to the gods. A place where these demi-gods could continue their earthly pleasures for all eternity.

Disco is a way of being more than mortal, a way of reaching for the deity in yourself. It's about being cool, suave, respected, hot, & in-tune with the zeitgeist of the day. To be 'Disco' is to have 'boss' status because you are just IT. You supersede mere mortals.

Disco Elysium is that place only the Gods of Disco can enter.

+ 1 Conceptualization

What is Disco you ask? Disco is music and a feeling of invincibility, listen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOx81aG-EN4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozwsruUHtac
+ 1 Shivers

Wow! That is *Disco.* An immense feeling threatens to bring you to your knees.

- 1 Composure

Feel it! Can't.Stop.Grooving....

+ 2 Savoir Faire
+ 1 Inland Empire

You manage to recover by swaying your ungainly girth in a rhythmic motion that frightens everyone away yet secures your place on the dancefloor. As beads of sweat collect around your forehead you glean a brief glimpse of distant starlight...perhaps it is your reflection?
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Crom Nov 5, 2019 @ 3:34am 
I thing... the term DISCO in this game got many meanings.

This game basicly inspire you to find your own disco :))

thats my view :)
Du-Vu Nov 5, 2019 @ 7:00am 
^^ and ^ That sounds about right. :steamhappy:
Holografix Nov 5, 2019 @ 9:36am 
Originally posted by zangori:
I thing... the term DISCO in this game got many meanings.

This game basicly inspire you to find your own disco :))

thats my view :)
maybe, maybe not.
does *disco* have a negative meaning?
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