Disco Elysium

Disco Elysium

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Stabbey 2019 年 10 月 21 日 下午 12:55
Kim Kitsuragi is a fantastically written character
It would have been easy to make Kim just a killjoy always telling you off for doing strange things, or just being dull and flat, but he's got just enough personality and wit to be engaging. He's got his own things which interest him and his own hidden history. You can open up to Kim and get him to open up to you.

Because he's with you just about every step of the way, you really do get attached to Kim. That could have gone wrong is if you were the only one to contribute thoughts. But Kim has his own ideas, and there's enough back-and-forth in the case to make Kim feel like a true contributing partner, not just a tag-along. The game gives you hints when he wants to step in and you can let him take the lead, and you can get him to have your back.

Really, the only possible flaw with how he's written is that he's perhaps TOO accepting of such a ♥♥♥♥-up that you are, and your total amnesia. That's a little hard-to-swallow for someone as high-ranked as Lieutenant, but it's the kind of flaw which is perfectly fine.

I know the premise of this game doesn't make sense story-wise for there to be a sequel, continuing the adventures of you and Kim, but I would certainly not mind seeing one.
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Kain 2019 年 10 月 22 日 下午 3:34 
引用自 I_LOVE_BBW
引用自 Kain
Take your pick.
that was a referrence to Garte, when he says he was bad ass you can say to him "when you say it like that it sounds like there is something wrong with your ass" on which he simply replies "f_uck you"
Oh, must have missed that lol, there are so many good lines in this game though it's hard to remember them all.
Restitutor Orbis 2019 年 10 月 22 日 下午 3:36 
its right after the shooting outside of his hotel, the next time you talk to him, he brags how he was brave and "bad ass"
Brother PaciFist 2019 年 10 月 22 日 下午 3:41 
There was a japanese aircraft carrier named Katsuragi, that survived the second world war. Now we know where the inspiration for his name came from. Kitsuragi survived the Revachol Revolution.
Kain 2019 年 10 月 22 日 下午 3:51 
Nice piece of trivia.
freecoffees 2019 年 11 月 5 日 上午 7:46 
引用自 Kain
I wonder if it's possible to make Kim respect you but despise you at the same time, like being a great detective but also a racist or something

I equipped advanced race theory but never responded anything racist and always supported kim against the 3 magical racist npcs. By the ending, he summarized me as a racist but defended me against my current precinct, called me one of the best cop he worked with and in multiple checks the modifiers suggest he trusts me completely, so.
Dani_ZAUM  [开发者] 2019 年 11 月 5 日 上午 7:47 
引用自 Brother PaciFist
There was a japanese aircraft carrier named Katsuragi, that survived the second world war. Now we know where the inspiration for his name came from. Kitsuragi survived the Revachol Revolution.

Nah we're just a bunch of Evangelion fans :P
ahueonao 2019 年 11 月 5 日 上午 10:47 
引用自 freecoffees
引用自 Kain
I wonder if it's possible to make Kim respect you but despise you at the same time, like being a great detective but also a racist or something

I equipped advanced race theory but never responded anything racist and always supported kim against the 3 magical racist npcs. By the ending, he summarized me as a racist but defended me against my current precinct, called me one of the best cop he worked with and in multiple checks the modifiers suggest he trusts me completely, so.

Does Kim still make his joke about "the third racist will be the lucky one" if you're racist yourself? there was something about getting Gary to squirm as we asked "you gonna grant us three wishes, Gary?" that made it one of my favorite moments in the game.
Overall, I really like the moments where Kim's dry sense of humor showed through his stiff facade, like how he could barely hold his laughter as you wondered what was so *special* about the balcony smoker.

All in all, I'd say Kim is a killjoy, but he's MY killjoy and I love him and I wish I could have kissed him straight on the mouth as he defended my karaoke performance at the end of the game.

by the way, endgame question - does his response to you offering he transfers to 41st after the chat with your colleagues depend on his opinion of you?
Du-Vu 2019 年 11 月 5 日 下午 6:00 
He's *proud* of his killjoy nature, which makes all the difference. Goodest of the good cops, straightest of the straight men (not that kind of straight).

Kim does not make his joke about the third racist if you are the third racist, from what I can tell. I haven't seen it happen yet, but given I almost got kicked out of the unit altogether, I'd be surprised if Kim couldn't at least tell you his real opinion of you once the case was over.
piddyx 2019 年 11 月 5 日 下午 7:15 
I like how he walks off and does his own thing when your character stops.
JuX 2019 年 11 月 5 日 下午 10:08 
"I know the premise of this game doesn't make sense story-wise for there to be a sequel, continuing the adventures of you and Kim, but I would certainly not mind seeing one."

I guess your game played out completely differently then mine. Id say it felt more like a prologue story which was disappointing note to end on, as the story just kicked in to high gear with Kim being part of it.

At the very least i have fond memories of my journey with Kim. Hustling people for money and inserting dominance "I am the law". "Yes, they know you are *the* law" - Kim
jack_of_tears 2019 年 11 月 6 日 上午 1:13 
引用自 ahueonao

Does Kim still make his joke about "the third racist will be the lucky one" if you're racist yourself?

Well, I internalized the racist thought in order to get past Whatishead but I never engaged in racist dialogue after that, and I got the line later, so it probably has to do with your dialogue choices as well, not just having the thought active in your cabinet.
freecoffees 2019 年 11 月 6 日 上午 3:57 
引用自 ahueonao
Does Kim still make his joke about "the third racist will be the lucky one" if you're racist yourself?
I actually forgot about it, I was busy confirming if he's the cryptozoologist for the side quest. Idk if it helps, but I signaled to him that I only internalized the advance race theory to get past measure head.

引用自 ahueonao
by the way, endgame question - does his response to you offering he transfers to 41st after the chat with your colleagues depend on his opinion of you?
In continuation to him defending me, he was p much on board despite me being racist. Come to think of it, I had politically clashing thoughts equipped, Kim is confused by it, but I don't think it affected his decision?
Du-Vu 2019 年 11 月 6 日 上午 7:39 
I think the main factor in Kim's opinion of you is your Good Cop/Bad Cop score. He's willing to put up with a lot if you're a good detective. The man's a professional, first and foremost.
holy-death 2019 年 11 月 6 日 上午 10:30 
引用自 Stabbey
I know the premise of this game doesn't make sense story-wise for there to be a sequel, continuing the adventures of you and Kim, but I would certainly not mind seeing one.
I wouldn't be so sure. The way things ended in my run I'd say there is room for a sequel.
Laie 2019 年 11 月 23 日 下午 3:52 
引用自 ZAUM_Dani
引用自 Brother PaciFist
There was a japanese aircraft carrier named Katsuragi, that survived the second world war. Now we know where the inspiration for his name came from. Kitsuragi survived the Revachol Revolution.

Nah we're just a bunch of Evangelion fans :P
Now that's what I call a great piece of trivia :3
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