Disco Elysium

Disco Elysium

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Lord Retro Oct 18, 2019 @ 12:48am
I dont understand 70% of the Dialogues.
As in, i do understand the words, they just dont make sense most of the time.
Am i not taking enough drugs to process this game?
Bacause clearly, the Devs were on LSD when they wrote this.
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Clown Reemus Oct 18, 2019 @ 12:50am 
That's the thing - this is the advanced use of English (or language, in general). Knowing words itself is not enough. Using constructions you remember will not explain things. This is the game where you need to *truly* use English. You have to use it yourself to understand the complex structures.
iCanTucan Oct 18, 2019 @ 12:57am 
Could you post example of dialogue that doesn't make sense?
Tingly Oct 18, 2019 @ 1:08am 
The setting isn't Earth, so there are various words and concepts being thrown around that you're meant to learn in-game, as well.
Dirty Wizard Oct 18, 2019 @ 1:16am 
Is English your first language?
Clown Reemus Oct 18, 2019 @ 1:17am 
Originally posted by Dirty Wizard:
Is English your first language?
It does not have to be. It merely has to be *your* language. Not a language you are trying to imitate.
Lord Retro Oct 18, 2019 @ 1:19am 
Well. i am german but i used to think that my control of the english language is above average. At least that is what i am usually told by native speakers who have a hard time believing that i am in fact not a native english speaker.
Maybe it is more a question of me not being able to understand the mindset and thought-trains of the actors.
Space Dust Oct 18, 2019 @ 1:25am 
A lot of the dialogue choices feel disconnected from the flow of the conversation. It is not complex writing, but confusing narrative in the appearance of "freedom and choice".
Dirty Wizard Oct 18, 2019 @ 1:27am 
Originally posted by Lord Retro:
Well. i am german but i used to think that my control of the english language is above average.

I think maybe that's your problem, this is the kind of language and structure that only native english speakers will 100% understand. There's a lot of heavy metaphors and stuff that won't translate well to someone who doesn't think in English.
Lord Retro Oct 18, 2019 @ 1:28am 
Originally posted by Bob from HR:
A lot of the dialogue choices feel disconnected from the flow of the conversation. It is not complex writing, but confusing narrative in the appearance of "freedom and choice".
Exactly. It is in fact confusing to the point of 'now where did THAT come from?'
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jack_of_tears Oct 18, 2019 @ 1:42am 
Originally posted by Bob from HR:
A lot of the dialogue choices feel disconnected from the flow of the conversation. It is not complex writing, but confusing narrative in the appearance of "freedom and choice".

You will often make choices in dialogue which narrow your future options, it isn't a lack of choice so much as not seeing which choices will have future consequences in the conversation, as they aren't always evident.

That said, the dialogue likes to play with words. It uses a stylized voice to help indicate which personality quirks, or skills, are directing your dialogue. If you chose to internalize the 'racism' quality, then your thoughts will turn toward racism more often. If you have a history of saying sexist things, you'll see sexist remarks appear more often. At least this is what I have observed.

It also uses a lot of metaphor and allusions to things in our world, some of which you will and some of which you won't be familiar.

And, then, sometimes it's just weird in order to let you be weird - but that can take you some interesting directions as well (for example, I gaslighted some woman into believing her husband was missing, so she'd give me the case and I could feel cool for solving it).

Not to mention, the protagonist has been on a pretty solid drug-addled binge for several months and most of the 'healing' items in the game are drugs. Thus, his thought processes are going to be a bit psychedelic.
Magnus Oct 18, 2019 @ 1:56am 
The writing is complex, but much easier to understand than Kentucky Route Zero for example.
Me Oct 18, 2019 @ 2:13am 
Originally posted by Dirty Wizard:
Originally posted by Lord Retro:
Well. i am german but i used to think that my control of the english language is above average.

I think maybe that's your problem, this is the kind of language and structure that only native english speakers will 100% understand. There's a lot of heavy metaphors and stuff that won't translate well to someone who doesn't think in English.
I don't think that's true. I have no problem understanding the game, but am not a native english speaker. I mean the writer isn't even a native english speakers, so I doubt that is a prerequisite for understanding the writing.
Ranxeroxo Oct 18, 2019 @ 2:24am 
^
Yep.


And you play an alcoholic cop with amnesia in a distorted world. So all the absurd and kind of psychedelic content makes sense to me.
Sam Oct 18, 2019 @ 2:59am 
The writing is insanely good.
Dirty Wizard Oct 18, 2019 @ 4:12am 
Originally posted by Me:
I mean the writer isn't even a native english speakers, so I doubt that is a prerequisite for understanding the writing.

Really? Did he write it in English or did someone translate it for him? Because if he wrote it in English, that's seriously impressive
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