Pocket ICBM is pretty bad

[Rainy days.]

Adds +2 rockets to any rocket perk you have- Yet it can't be stacked because you can only fire a maximum of 3 rockets at a time. Was this intentional, or just an oversight?

[Talithmara]

Decided to chime in on the "performance issues" with Missile Builds:

I did extensive testing and an instant cooldown constantly spammed Disposable Missile Launcher + ICBM + ATG Missile caused 0 issues on it's own. However, 5 57 Leaf Clovers + ATG Missile + Ukelele + Molten Perforator WITHOUT the Pocket PCBM = OH GOD WHAT IS HAPPENING." I'm 100% convinced it has everything to do with all the re-calculations and missiles activating off missiles activating off missiles,

So the culprit is the clover stacking more than the missiles.

[Ninja Zyborg]

[legendary item that is really strong] is bad (because it stacks poorly)

this man also calling brilliant behemoth and shattering justice bad smh

[Nighteyes]

Originally posted by Hexerin:

Originally posted by Nighteyes:

Except that's not what he wrote.

Basic English reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, I see.

The title says bad and I'm guessing you only read titles of articles and think you know the whole story.

The content is about the efficacy of stacking the item, and I agree with OP. One is fine, two is questionable if given the choice.

[FAMILY_MAN]

I don't get why hopoo is afraid to make legendary items OP when the most OP legendaries already exist.
I mean I was baffled at first by OP because ICBM is super strong, but yeah hearing about how it stacks is mega disappointing.

[zero254]

lol

[Vayde Knyght]

The thing is, as the tier of item goes up, the design intention of it needing or wanting to be stacked goes down.

This is reflected in most "white" items having equivalent (or nearly so) effect from extra stacks; most "green" items having part of their effect magnified, with some having nearly-equivalent effect from stacking; and most "red" items having part of their effect augmented by stacking, but the "meat" of their effect from the first you acquire (the 57-Leaf Clover being a notable exception, receiving full effect per stack) (though there are several "red" items that have powerful stacking effects, like the Rejuvenation Rack or Laser Scope, for instance; though arguably the value for each stack is less than the previous [100% + 100% = 2*100%, 200% + 100% = 1.5*200%, 300%+100%=1.(3)*300%, etc.])

Pocket ICBM is really powerful; add a few stacks of fireworks and you can kill the entire teleporter event just by interacting with the teleporter.

[Lunacy]

So if one missile did 100 damage, +2 means you're doing 300 damage.
+50% from a 2nd stack would bring them up to 150 damage, so 450 damage per missile, not too bad, that's still going from a 200% increase to a 350% increase on the 2nd stack

[Leviathan]

Originally posted by Ninja Zyborg:

[legendary item that is really strong] is bad (because it stacks poorly)

this man also calling brilliant behemoth and shattering justice bad smh

Yep. And for the most part stacking legendaries, or in particular stacking the one legendary you want to stack is pretty bad.

[Sovietball]

99% of reds stack terribly.

Welcome new players to ror2.

[Hexerin]

Originally posted by Nighteyes:

The title says bad and I'm guessing you only read titles of articles and think you know the whole story. The content is about the efficacy of stacking the item, and I agree with OP. One is fine, two is questionable if given the choice.

So in addition to lacking basic English reading comprehension skills, you also have a fundamental misunderstanding of how the game is designed.

[nul]

I think even on command and with the lockbox 100% red bug, pretty sure the only red I bothered stacking was clover or alien heads.

I just had a run where my engineer almost did as much damage as my 3 turrets by using purity, icbm, and shrimp. Using the thermal harpoons.

[KellyR]

Originally posted by nul:

I think even on command and with the lockbox 100% red bug, pretty sure the only red I bothered stacking was clover or alien heads.

I just had a run where my engineer almost did as much damage as my 3 turrets by using purity, icbm, and shrimp. Using the thermal harpoons.

Aegis and Rejuvenation Rack are both worth stacking. Rack moreso than Aegis, but having a couple Aegis is good.

Also if you have the luxury, Sentient Meat Hook is good to stack.

[Nighteyes]

Originally posted by Hexerin:

Originally posted by Nighteyes:

The title says bad and I'm guessing you only read titles of articles and think you know the whole story. The content is about the efficacy of stacking the item, and I agree with OP. One is fine, two is questionable if given the choice.

So in addition to lacking basic English reading comprehension skills, you also have a fundamental misunderstanding of how the game is designed.

Neither do you.

[Hexerin]

Originally posted by Nighteyes:

Neither do you.

Assuming a single ATG:

With a single ICBM:
300% total damage -> 900% total damage

"It's bad though!"

With two ICBM:
300% total damage -> 1,350% total damage

"It's bad to stack though!"

Clowns, the lot of you. Shush, while you're only six feet under.

[Asim_Skuggbane]

people that think the icbm is bad really do go to clown school