Insanely slow and unbalanced grind

[Brother Loden]

Do the devs plan on lowering hte hours needed to farm gold? you get like 300-400 gold per match unless you are some insane guy without a job that can play the game on a daily bassis.

i got a job taking up alot of time aswell and playing for 6 hours 1 day when i have the time only to go 1 level and earn probably 4000 gold to buy a single item? Esp when they put in every single new item on the price range of 6000-80000 gold. 80000 gold!? Like do they just HATE their playerbase that much or are they just bad at balancing -anything-?

Not to mention teams with the most high Ram palyers get the best early starts, as loading in a match can take FOREVER, and people with powerhouse pc's can load in quick and just finish the first objective in invasion to 80% completion before anyone else have spawned in.

Love this game to hell and back and still gives it a 10/10 but the devs just feel clueless in how they wanna balance -anything- in this game, slow exp, slow grind, and the best armor color locked in a impossible level 70.

I know people are gonna say "its just cosmetics" But thats literally the only thing to play for in this game so get over youself. This game has the best cosmetics in any medieval game i've ever seen, its sad to see barely half of it will ever be used due to dumb prices and immensly slow grind that'd make vanila wow feel ashamed.

[Chimz]

Originally posted by ETucc:

I had every high level cosmetic by like 300 hours. And for the last 100 hours, I haven't really bought anything because there's nothing left.

300 hours is a lot and doesn't reason the fact that the grind system is bad.

The problem with the reward system is that it rewards player's very little for the score and kills they get (up to 50 gold only) and instead rewards the players based on the amount of time the match took to finish. So hypothetically, a match finished in 5 minutes will get everyone something around 100 coins plus up to a dozen extra for their score, while a 15 minute match will give everyone 300 plus 30-50 coin based on their score.


It's a very bad system that doesn't reward player skill (ironic for a skill based game) and it's not the first time I've seen it. Even Chivalry Medieval Warfare had this problem. I can't imagine why they would pick such a reward system.

[Brother Loden]

Originally posted by Chimz:

Originally posted by ETucc:

I had every high level cosmetic by like 300 hours. And for the last 100 hours, I haven't really bought anything because there's nothing left.

300 hours is a lot and doesn't reason the fact that the grind system is bad.

The problem with the reward system is that it rewards player's very little for the score and kills they get (up to 50 gold only) and instead rewards the players based on the amount of time the match took to finish. So hypothetically, a match finished in 5 minutes will get everyone something around 100 coins plus up to a dozen extra for their score, while a 15 minute match will give everyone 300 plus 30-50 coin based on their score.


It's a very bad system that doesn't reward player skill (ironic for a skill based game) and it's not the first time I've seen it. Even Chivalry Medieval Warfare had this problem. I can't imagine why they would pick such a reward system.

Wait what, its rewarded on time? i thought it was rewarded on kills AND score together, that explains alit, the game is increadibly poorly managed in rewarding system to the point its really difficult to figure out how you get better rewards lol.

[OverwatchJunky]

Originally posted by Brother Loden:

Do the devs plan on lowering hte hours needed to farm gold? you get like 300-400 gold per match unless you are some insane guy without a job that can play the game on a daily bassis.

i got a job taking up alot of time aswell and playing for 6 hours 1 day when i have the time only to go 1 level and earn probably 4000 gold to buy a single item? Esp when they put in every single new item on the price range of 6000-80000 gold. 80000 gold!? Like do they just HATE their playerbase that much or are they just bad at balancing -anything-?

Not to mention teams with the most high Ram palyers get the best early starts, as loading in a match can take FOREVER, and people with powerhouse pc's can load in quick and just finish the first objective in invasion to 80% completion before anyone else have spawned in.

Love this game to hell and back and still gives it a 10/10 but the devs just feel clueless in how they wanna balance -anything- in this game, slow exp, slow grind, and the best armor color locked in a impossible level 70.

I know people are gonna say "its just cosmetics" But thats literally the only thing to play for in this game so get over youself. This game has the best cosmetics in any medieval game i've ever seen, its sad to see barely half of it will ever be used due to dumb prices and immensly slow grind that'd make vanila wow feel ashamed.

Dude. I played Vanilla WoW. Thats a horrible comparison because Vanilla WoW didnt have any cosmetic items. You had to farm actual gear items and have them stashed in your bags taking up room. The current WoW expansion has transmogrification which made that so much better.


I played all the stock classes first. Usually archer and builder classes mostly and sometimes melee and I get 500+ gold a match for defending objectives and not just based on kills. I bought all my favorite weapons first, then I bought cosmetics later when I built up 3-4k gold. Its really not as hard as you think to gather gold. You get a good amount from playing Horde maps too. If you complete maybe 10-15 waves solo you get almost 2k gold.


I have played less than 125 hours since I bought the week it was released, I have bought almost all my favorite weapons and armor, I am level 44, and I have 26k gold to spare.

[OverwatchJunky]

Originally posted by ETucc:

Originally posted by Chimz:

300 hours is a lot and doesn't reason the fact that the grind system is bad.

The problem with the reward system is that it rewards player's very little for the score and kills they get (up to 50 gold only) and instead rewards the players based on the amount of time the match took to finish. So hypothetically, a match finished in 5 minutes will get everyone something around 100 coins plus up to a dozen extra for their score, while a 15 minute match will give everyone 300 plus 30-50 coin based on their score.


It's a very bad system that doesn't reward player skill (ironic for a skill based game) and it's not the first time I've seen it. Even Chivalry Medieval Warfare had this problem. I can't imagine why they would pick such a reward system.

Okay but you're an admitted casual and it doesn't sound like you're gonna be getting the best K/D or top score any time soon.

Right now, the game doesn't penalize you for not being good.

I have 116 hours and I have plenty of gold. I am not a pro either. I play mostly archer and builder. I do the objectives. I get a LOT of assists. I get 500+ gold per match. You dont have to have a huge KD to get gold. I play a ton of Horde mode too and that gets good gold. I have 28k gold in surplus at level 43 lol If he is lacking gold that makes him REALLY bad at the game lol


Only thing I haven't really purchased is armor. I have more than enough of each level armor and I dont really need more than that. I have all but maybe 5 weapons unlocked as well. Just ones I dont really like or use.

[Jpc1023]

Originally posted by OverwatchJunky:

Originally posted by ETucc:

Okay but you're an admitted casual and it doesn't sound like you're gonna be getting the best K/D or top score any time soon.

Right now, the game doesn't penalize you for not being good.

I have 116 hours and I have plenty of gold. I am not a pro either. I play mostly archer and builder. I do the objectives. I get a LOT of assists. I get 500+ gold per match. You dont have to have a huge KD to get gold. I play a ton of Horde mode too and that gets good gold. I have 28k gold in surplus at level 43 lol If he is lacking gold that makes him REALLY bad at the game lol

Gold is earned by match length not score/kills

[λdambomb]

You can unlock all weapons within like 20 hours of playing. The rest of stuff is all cosmetics. Your not supposed to be able to unlock every single item in the game with a "casual" amount of time. Whats left for the veterans to strut their stuff if not some cool hard to unlock cosmetics.

[Look at my bats dick]

Originally posted by Adambomb:

You can unlock all weapons within like 20 hours of playing. The rest of stuff is all cosmetics. Your not supposed to be able to unlock every single item in the game with a "casual" amount of time. Whats left for the veterans to strut their stuff if not some cool hard to unlock cosmetics.

[Pititan]

Originally posted by Adambomb:

You can unlock all weapons within like 20 hours of playing. The rest of stuff is all cosmetics. Your not supposed to be able to unlock every single item in the game with a "casual" amount of time. Whats left for the veterans to strut their stuff if not some cool hard to unlock cosmetics.

Less... Each weapon is like 800 gold... And it's not like you'll be using all anyway. I've unlocked only the ones that interested me. Same with cosmetics...

Given I've unlocked just about every helm, torso and leg piece, and still have to unlock the plumes, but I don't have any plans to do so...

[ΣL ЯΛTΘ]

You'd think people would be happy the game doesnt have microtransactions...

[Dr.Chazzzzz]

Originally posted by Ray The Hoonter:

Originally posted by OverwatchJunky:

I have 116 hours and I have plenty of gold. I am not a pro either. I play mostly archer and builder. I do the objectives. I get a LOT of assists. I get 500+ gold per match. You dont have to have a huge KD to get gold. I play a ton of Horde mode too and that gets good gold. I have 28k gold in surplus at level 43 lol If he is lacking gold that makes him REALLY bad at the game lol

Gold is earned by match length not score/kills

No gold is mostly match length and a little score. The few times im not top 5 on my team I get noticeably less gold for the same amount of time spent in a match.

[SandwichFace]

I think the grind's fine as it actually gives an incentive to keep on playing.

Trust me when I say, once you've unlocked everything, you'll be wishing that the grind was longer.

[Piderman]

Originally posted by Dash My Buttons:

I think the grind's fine as it actually gives an incentive to keep on playing.

Trust me when I say, once you've unlocked everything, you'll be wishing that the grind was longer.

To be honest, that level of grind is just stupid, seriously. I get around 500 Gold at best for a Match and that only if i was there from start, sometimes its even less for the same amount of time i spent in a match for some reason. And some stuff costs 30k and more.... go figure.

[Jpc1023]

Originally posted by Original, the Character:

Originally posted by Dash My Buttons:

I think the grind's fine as it actually gives an incentive to keep on playing.

Trust me when I say, once you've unlocked everything, you'll be wishing that the grind was longer.

To be honest, that level of grind is just stupid, seriously. I get around 500 Gold at best for a Match and that only if i was there from start, sometimes its even less for the same amount of time i spent in a match for some reason. And some stuff costs 30k and more.... go figure.

At least playing more makes you a better player overall so honestly the grind towards expensive cosmetics is worth it

[Salok]

You can get all the weapons after, like, 10 hours. Everything else is stuff you don't really need.

Cosmetics aren't that much of a grind to get unless you want those flashy ones

[个大鸡巴怪物]

I personally like the grind, it makes the cosmetics feel special, I understand that not everyone has the time for it though.