Beat Saber

Beat Saber

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Simon Aug 16, 2019 @ 6:40am
What about a beat saber switch without vr
I really want a beat saber non vr because i love the game and i what a switch version because the non vr bit and i love the joy-con. i got new joy cons today(16/8-19).
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Alternity Aug 16, 2019 @ 9:04am 
Joy-cons do not have positionnal tracking and therefore it would be impossible to fully re-create Beat Saber using these controllers.
Simon Aug 16, 2019 @ 9:13am 
Originally posted by Alternity:
Joy-cons do not have positionnal tracking and therefore it would be impossible to fully re-create Beat Saber using these controllers.
why?
Ogami Aug 16, 2019 @ 9:21am 
Originally posted by SA ST:
Originally posted by Alternity:
Joy-cons do not have positionnal tracking and therefore it would be impossible to fully re-create Beat Saber using these controllers.
why?

It means for VR controllers they exactly track the position of the controller and your hand in real time. So if you move your hand with the controller 10 cm to the left and 10 cm up, then move them 10 cm forward the VR item you are holding ( in this case the saber) 100% mimics that movement in the game world.
Thats important for Beat Saber since you slice the beat blocks from different directions and angles.
JoyCons have no directional tracking at all. At most you could simulate the swinging of the sabers on a tv screen but it would not even be 1/100th as precise as with real positional tracked VR controllers.

There is a reason a pair of VR controllers can cost you up to 300 bucks depending on the headset.
JoyCons are just a toy in comparison.
Last edited by Ogami; Aug 16, 2019 @ 9:22am
Sïckosis Aug 16, 2019 @ 10:18am 
Wait I thought the Switch could track 1:1 like the Wii Motion+ controllers. That tracking was all kinds of imprecise and drifted constantly but it was doable. You would just have to have a recalibration button handy and use it like 20 times throughout every song.

Probably better off asking for a touch screen based Fruit Ninja style game though.
Ogami Aug 16, 2019 @ 10:33am 
Originally posted by Spychosis:
Wait I thought the Switch could track 1:1 like the Wii Motion+ controllers.

JoyCon are a simple motion controller with a Accelerometer and a Gyroscope.
That allows simple motion controls but does not include any 3dimensional position tracking with sensors/cameras like in VR.

Its WAY more imprecise.
SilentCaay Aug 16, 2019 @ 12:14pm 
The whole reason VR motion controls are fun is because you're actually in the game, actually holding the lightsabers and actually swinging them at notes.

The whole reason wagglin' controls for flat games is so lame is because it's literally none of that. You're not holding a lightsaber or swinging at notes, you're performing gesture inputs for a game that's occurring on a screen in front of you. Not being in the game means that you have to play the game in a much more abstract manner.
Tenor Sounds Aug 16, 2019 @ 3:51pm 
There could be like, a super simplified Switch spin-off I guess. But I feel like people really don't understand how limited the game would have to be if it's being presented on a 2D screen and played with controllers that can't track your movements 1:1

At that point I'd rather wait for a Hatsune Miku dancing game on Switch or something, it'd pretty much be the same thing.
Last edited by Tenor Sounds; Aug 16, 2019 @ 3:53pm
Simon Aug 17, 2019 @ 5:35am 
Originally posted by Ogami:
Originally posted by SA ST:
why?

It means for VR controllers they exactly track the position of the controller and your hand in real time. So if you move your hand with the controller 10 cm to the left and 10 cm up, then move them 10 cm forward the VR item you are holding ( in this case the saber) 100% mimics that movement in the game world.
Thats important for Beat Saber since you slice the beat blocks from different directions and angles.
JoyCons have no directional tracking at all. At most you could simulate the swinging of the sabers on a tv screen but it would not even be 1/100th as precise as with real positional tracked VR controllers.

There is a reason a pair of VR controllers can cost you up to 300 bucks depending on the headset.
JoyCons are just a toy in comparison.
ok i want a joy-con pro
Alternity Aug 17, 2019 @ 3:10pm 
I don't think you understand what is positionnal tracking. Positionnal tracking is a system that tells a computer the exact location of the controller as x y z coordinates. The switch is not and will not be capable of doing that.
Simon Aug 18, 2019 @ 1:41am 
Ok lets just hope for a joy-con pro
Nelfie Aug 18, 2019 @ 5:09am 
♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ bro, save up some money and buy VR if you want to play the game, if you can't afford it nor want to, then there's plenty of other rhythmic games out there.
Simon Aug 18, 2019 @ 9:18am 
Originally posted by Nelfie:
♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ bro, save up some money and buy VR if you want to play the game, if you can't afford it nor want to, then there's plenty of other rhythmic games out there.
i am a broke kid that only has like 1000 kr aka 100$
Last edited by Simon; Aug 18, 2019 @ 9:18am
Alternity Aug 18, 2019 @ 9:57am 
Originally posted by SA ST:
Ok lets just hope for a joy-con pro

That's what I was trying to explain, no kind of joycon will do positionnal tracking. Nintendo is not and will not invest in VR more than what they did with the weird cardboard thing.
Simon Aug 18, 2019 @ 10:59am 
Originally posted by Alternity:
Originally posted by SA ST:
Ok lets just hope for a joy-con pro

That's what I was trying to explain, no kind of joycon will do positionnal tracking. Nintendo is not and will not invest in VR more than what they did with the weird cardboard thing.
yeah but i still hope for a joycon that is like a vr controler
Alternity Aug 18, 2019 @ 1:55pm 
I'm sorry to say that your hopes will not be met.
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