Beat Saber

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Xano May 4, 2018 @ 12:58am
Expert.....just how
Granted I just got the game and only played for about an hour and was able to play through all the songs on normal and get through most on hard with only missing a note or 3. But expert.....is on a legit whole new level. I have only beat Legend on expert....everything else destroys me. Even in no arrow mode. How do you youngins do it?
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SilentCaay May 4, 2018 @ 2:47am 
Practice. FC'ing a difficult song in any rhythm game is all about repetition. You just keep practicing until you've worked out how to do all the tricky parts. Once you have those down it's a matter of repeating it until you get the entire song done perfectly in one go. Sometimes it can take hours of just restarting the song over and over. All this for 3 minutes of glory...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4BmtW1hmOw
Id May 4, 2018 @ 5:46am 
Originally posted by Xano:
Granted I just got the game and only played for about an hour and was able to play through all the songs on normal and get through most on hard with only missing a note or 3. But expert.....is on a legit whole new level. I have only beat Legend on expert....everything else destroys me. Even in no arrow mode. How do you youngins do it?
It takes a lot of practice. I look at the difficulties like this

Easy moide - Untrained Force Sensitive
Normal Mode - Padawan/Apprentice
Hard Mode - Jedi Knight/Sith Lord
Expert Mode - Jedi Master/ Darth

When i first started the game, I started on Hard mode for all songs and for a while the only one I couldn't beat was the last song, but I beat it eventually. Then I tried One Saber Mode, which is permanently Expert Mode, and failed a lot until i managed to beat the Beat Saber song.

Certain songs are easier to beat on Expert than others in all 3 game modes. It's the failure that makes it more fun to keep trying and the sense of accomplishment that you get when you do win is unlike anything else.

I am convinced that everyone who scored higher than me in the leaderboards on Expert Mode are Cyborgs lol.
Nuggets May 4, 2018 @ 6:31am 
You really need to get into the game and let the music help you, at first i had the same reaction as you towards expert, but now after 3 hours of ingame time i managed to beat all levels on expert, now i'm just trying to get better at them and do no mistakes
GproKaru May 4, 2018 @ 7:36am 
You'll notice some patterns through some of the songs too, if you can learn them, then you can breeze through whole segments of the track effortlessly~

Gotta say though, when you hit the top and breeze through the tracks, it feels pretty good~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTIKR7grSlA&feature=youtu.be
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Heathen May 4, 2018 @ 12:17pm 
Having difficulty on Expert just means you're a normal human being. Very few people will succeed on the Expert mappings without a lot of retries.

The difference between Hard and Expert is the need to practice and form muscle memories of patterns.

It would be sweet if this game one day implemented something like 50% or 75% speed for learning. Since that's not the case today, you should turn off "health mode" (I forget its proper name) so that you don't fail the level, and run through it a few times.

Tips: Force yourself to maintain your eyes on the horizon so that you can see the beats coming to you as they arrive. Notice that the beats in this game have a "light beam from heaven" graphical effect when they assume their position on the track. Focus on whether or not a particular sequence of beats begins with an up direction or down direction. You will still get overwhelmed, but it's a start.
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Isaac May 4, 2018 @ 2:57pm 
It takes a while but you can get used to it, they have their own distict patterns that you can grab onto pretty well.
Odium May 4, 2018 @ 7:58pm 
I first started by playing the first track on medium. I aced it
So then I played all the tracks till I aced all of them on hard.
Now I'm working on expert. Much more difficult. At this point I'm working on finishing them all not worrying about the rank. after I at least finish them then Im starting back at the top and working on acing them.
Hidden Rellik May 5, 2018 @ 6:10am 
I did the tutorial then played my first song on normal... I was so bored so I went straight for expert. Now I have A scores on all songs with a ferw S and a few full combos (no misses)
sideshow May 5, 2018 @ 8:15pm 
When the arrows come at you fast on expert they can be really hard to read, but once you realise that they will almost always alternate when close together it becomes a lot more manageable (i.e. if you just hit downwards, hit the next one upwards, and so on). Just try not to get flustered!
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DATA May 5, 2018 @ 9:44pm 
yeah it seems ridiculous but maybe thats what expert is.. just completelymastering something by doing it repetitvely till its memorized... boring imo
Wanderer May 5, 2018 @ 10:58pm 
It's hard.

Day one, I played hard. I went through all the tracks. Then for funzies I tried the very first one on expert. Didn't survive through the first onslaught of rapidly placed boxes. I thought I had mad skills from Guitar Hero, nope! Totally different set of skills needed XD I knew that, but I didn't believe it until I saw it.

So, I kept playing hard, because honestly the songs are a ton of fun on it. Focus on your form. Figure out how to swing in a way that encompasses hitting multiple boxes when you can. I mean like, figure out the patterns so you swing up down up left up ... find the smooth motion for that. When you're getting good at figuring that out then try this.

Set the game to "NO ENERGY" and try expert. This is awesome. Missing doesn't matter now. So now you can practice those very hard fast paced bits with out the annoying forced restart. Figure out the motions you need to make when they come, and execute.

Basically, I'm trying to figure out movements sets. I'm not trying to think "this box then that box then this box." I'm trying to think "Pattern A -five blocks later- Pattern B -10 blocks later- Pattern A -five blocks later- Pattern C." It's a lot easier to remember pattern sets, than it is to focus on the moment and hit the boxes as they come. For me, the boxes are so close together it's hard to see what's coming anyway. Thankfully the designers have made those kind of intuitive to hit... If you swing down and there's a box after it, chances are you need to swing back up again.

Also, as someone else said. Let the song help you. Like on Guitar Hero, the song has a huge influence on what's coming and how you need to perform it. It will help you remember what you need to do. Try and dance. =) It not only makes it more fun, but easier to get into and remember what's coming, and how you need to perform.
Wightdogg316 May 5, 2018 @ 11:33pm 
Only issue with the game is when you have to duck
Beat Saber desperately needs a training mode a la ITG/StepMania. Basically, you can select a few measures to single out, play them in slow-motion if you want, have a slight timing assist (click sound that plays when the note passes the step threshold), and be able to play them independently of the rest of the song.

It's very difficult to learn the timing and direction of the blocks when you can barely even see them in the first place, and Beat Saber's measure slider makes it very difficult to read the directions. It gets very frustrating very quickly when you barely pass a segment, then collide another segment that makes no reasonable sense because you can't even SEE it. As there isn't currently a way to pull the tracks out and look at them with more distance between the blocks (see also: speed mods), the main difficulty comes from just reacting in time to hit the block and NOT the actual inherent difficulty of the chart. (Anyone remember Naoki's bag from EXTREME?) This is not conductive to a good difficulty curve.
Originally posted by Xano:
Granted I just got the game and only played for about an hour and was able to play through all the songs on normal and get through most on hard with only missing a note or 3. But expert.....is on a legit whole new level. I have only beat Legend on expert....everything else destroys me. Even in no arrow mode. How do you youngins do it?

with practice. Never seen the insane gamers on guitar hero? some of them are so good it almost looks like it's a bot doing that ♥♥♥♥, same with OSU! aswell. Insane practice and years of playing.
Melissa May 16, 2018 @ 11:43am 
I know that expert is definitely doable, I just have 1 problem with the difficulty: Hard is too easy. I can pass all the tracks on Hard effortlessly, but on Expert I haven't gotten so far yet. Why is there no difficulty right in between? Why is Hard so easy?
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Date Posted: May 4, 2018 @ 12:58am
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