Server Types and CU

[Grimm Spector]

How do the different server types, web, database and cache, contribute overall to CU? At what point does temperature start to detract from my servers stability / CU produced?

[jhovgaard]

Hi there,

The lowest amount of web, database or cache sets the produced CU. Balancing them is how to get the most efficient setup.

Temperature is individual for each server type. Generally issues starts to happen after 70 degrees celcius. A rack containing a low performing server will show up as yellow.

Hope it helps :-)

Best,
Jonas

[Grimm Spector]

Originally posted by jhovgaard:

Hi there,

The lowest amount of web, database or cache sets the produced CU. Balancing them is how to get the most efficient setup.

Temperature is individual for each server type. Generally issues starts to happen after 70 degrees celcius. A rack containing a low performing server will show up as yellow.

Hope it helps :-)

Best,
Jonas

Nice, I've been trying to keep things below 50, which I guess is more than I need to do. My real life server shuts itself down at 50, which is pretty annoying.

[sinon]

Anyone know the differences/advantages of "real" servers vs virtual servers?

[jhovgaard]

Originally posted by sinon:

Anyone know the differences/advantages of "real" servers vs virtual servers?

Real servers are much much cheaper and allows you to produce higher amounts of CU.

[Grimm Spector]

Even one rack is more efficient than any set of virtual servers, but it doesn't start to be a great return until you have a couple racks expenditure wise. But when you get many more users and thereby more income it definitely pays off even at smaller numbers.

[sinon]

So if real servers are cheaper and have no drawback, what's the point of virtual ones?

[jhovgaard]

Originally posted by sinon:

So if real servers are cheaper and have no drawback, what's the point of virtual ones?

Initial cost. In the beginning you do not want to spent money on renting a hosting building, buying racks and configuring them. It's much more convenient renting them until you have the money and "need" to build your own.

[Roversword]

Originally posted by jhovgaard:

Originally posted by sinon:

So if real servers are cheaper and have no drawback, what's the point of virtual ones?

Initial cost. In the beginning you do not want to spent money on renting a hosting building, buying racks and configuring them. It's much more convenient renting them until you have the money and "need" to build your own.

so you are actually saying...the virtual servers are cheaper at the beginning and in short term (which is true), but way more expensive in the long run.
While dedicated/real hardware is costlier in investment but rather cheap in the long run (once you have it, its yours and adding to it usually is rather easy as long as you have rack space).

:)

[jhovgaard]

Originally posted by Roversword:

so you are actually saying...the virtual servers are cheaper at the beginning and in short term (which is true), but way more expensive in the long run.
While dedicated/real hardware is costlier in investment but rather cheap in the long run (once you have it, its yours and adding to it usually is rather easy as long as you have rack space).

:)

You got it! :-)

[High Ground]

Originally posted by Roversword:

Originally posted by jhovgaard:

Initial cost. In the beginning you do not want to spent money on renting a hosting building, buying racks and configuring them. It's much more convenient renting them until you have the money and "need" to build your own.

so you are actually saying...the virtual servers are cheaper at the beginning and in short term (which is true), but way more expensive in the long run.
While dedicated/real hardware is costlier in investment but rather cheap in the long run (once you have it, its yours and adding to it usually is rather easy as long as you have rack space).

:)

Virtual : Higher Cost/month
Real : Initial Cost for Building + Servers but very low cost/month

[Grimm Spector]

Plus virtual cost less resources to start up all across the board, from your devops guys, so when you need quick boost if you're short on devops resources in stock you can throw up virtuals to hold the load until you can provision more rack space. It's kind of like you have a datacenter but when things go bad you turn to AWS or something. :P I like it btw jhovgaard.

[Horus Lupercal]

Originally posted by sinon:

So if real servers are cheaper and have no drawback, what's the point of virtual ones?

Same reason real business go with AWS over in house datacenters.... in house is much better but exponentially more expensive due to physical footprint, power, salaries of SysAdmins.. etc

[Grimm Spector]

Originally posted by Horus Lupercal:

Originally posted by sinon:

So if real servers are cheaper and have no drawback, what's the point of virtual ones?

Same reason real business go with AWS over in house datacenters.... in house is much better but exponentially more expensive due to physical footprint, power, salaries of SysAdmins.. etc

Bingo.

[luckz]

But in this game, you still need substantial personell to "help set up" your AWS instances.

[Grimm Spector]

Originally posted by luckz:

But in this game, you still need substantial personell to "help set up" your AWS instances.

I wouldn't call 1 person substantial, and in real life you need someone who knows AWS well and can write scripts to get instances up fast, etc.