I think there might be some problems with Dugong's systems. (no there isn't, the game might have just bugged WHY CAN'T I JUST DELETE THIS 12 HOUR OLD POST)

[EnderswordYT]

Long story short, I was playing with my friends and using a Dugong, nobody rewired any systems, and suddenly one of the onboard pumps just started... pumping water in instead of out (+30% instead of -100%). The only solution we found was to disconnect the pump from the water sensor and manually setting it to -100%. After that, something in the engine room started breaking as well, the water level kept jumping from 0% to 1% despite there being no leaks around and the pump being properly set to -100%, which kept constantly turning the flood siren on and off. The only solution I found was, again, disconnecting the pump from the water sensor, and now the flood siren is silent 'cause the water is at 0%. Why? Well, I don't know. If I knew, I wouldn't be sitting here writing this post, probably.


But I think there might be also just something wrong with that save, "repair all items" did not repair coilgun loader bases and we were faced with unusually difficult encounters for a normal-difficulty early Europan Ridge (I'm talking "multiple groups of quadruple hammerheads in a level" difficult).

EDIT: 'aight, 'aight, chill people, this is turning into among us, I'm telling ya' that there aren't any proof that any of my crewmate is to blame, even more, the evidence suggests it might have been the game's fault.

[climbingeastofwinter]

Originally posted by EnderswordYT:

Originally posted by UnluckyDuckie:

Some classes spawn with screwdriver and wrench. All this says is that you guys are getting pranked pretty good

Yeah, and we took the screwdriver from everybody except for me (engineer). That's why I'm so confused.

I could believe it might happen once. Sometimes barotrauma gets borked and things don't quite work right. There was a time when welders could become corrupted and you'd need to deconstruct and rebuild a specific welder to get it working again -- it'd just burn fuel but not weld when you pulled the trigger on it. Sometimes the collision grid of the submarine gets caught in the collision grid of terrain or alien ruins and the round becomes unwinnable (without cheats) because the submarine is irrevocably stuck. I could believe that maybe something got borked once regarding your pumps.

If I were you, I'd verify my game files and try it again alone (and maybe with bots) and see if you can replicate the issue. Then try the same save with your crew again and see if things go wrong. Odds are good that the previous respondents are correct and someone is messing with you, but if there is something wrong with the Dugong it should probably fix itself on reloading the round, or exiting the game, verifying files, and reloading the save.

[EnderswordYT]

Originally posted by climbingeastofwinter:

Originally posted by EnderswordYT:

Yeah, and we took the screwdriver from everybody except for me (engineer). That's why I'm so confused.

I could believe it might happen once. Sometimes barotrauma gets borked and things don't quite work right. There was a time when welders could become corrupted and you'd need to deconstruct and rebuild a specific welder to get it working again -- it'd just burn fuel but not weld when you pulled the trigger on it. Sometimes the collision grid of the submarine gets caught in the collision grid of terrain or alien ruins and the round becomes unwinnable (without cheats) because the submarine is irrevocably stuck. I could believe that maybe something got borked once regarding your pumps.

If I were you, I'd verify my game files and try it again alone (and maybe with bots) and see if you can replicate the issue. Then try the same save with your crew again and see if things go wrong. Odds are good that the previous respondents are correct and someone is messing with you, but if there is something wrong with the Dugong it should probably fix itself on reloading the round, or exiting the game, verifying files, and reloading the save.

Ok, so actually, I checked some things, and weird things only started happeining once one of my friends (the newbie without a scredriver) was on the server. I was talking to him after we kinda ragequit the session (wire for y position was in the engine and the x position was in the ballast, making the ship uncontrollable), and he said that the barely was in engine at all and never in ballast, which, because I was constantly in the navigation area at that time as we were getting attacked form the back and I had to do repairs, I can confirm that he never even entered the ballast. And yet the server log claims that he was the one who screwed up the wires. You see why is this situation so confusing and frustrating to me?

[lunaris80]

you dont need screwdriver to change signal check from -100 to 30. You need plasma cutter and welding tool if its hidden behind wall or no tool if its accessible.

Also human evolve with the ability to lie.

You swap X and Y in the monitor room.

[EnderswordYT]

Originally posted by lunaris80:

you dont need screwdriver to change signal check from -100 to 30. You need plasma cutter and welding tool if its hidden behind wall or no tool if its accessible.

Also human evolve with the ability to lie.

You swap X and Y in the monitor room.

First, at least on these saves, it was impossible to manually change the settings of the pump if it was on automatic control, and to disconnect it from whatever put it into auto control you do need a screwdriver. Second, in the navigation room the wires were fine. The wires in ballast and engine were screwed up.

[lunaris80]

Originally posted by EnderswordYT:

First, at least on these saves, it was impossible to manually change the settings of the pump if it was on automatic control, and to disconnect it from whatever put it into auto control you do need a screwdriver. Second, in the navigation room the wires were fine. The wires in ballast and engine were screwed up.

The reason why you cant change it because it was connected to signal check component. you change the signal check output/input. And it doesn't need screwdriver or wiring.

If the X and Y swapped, you fix it on the sonar monitor X and Y outputs. just swap them back.

[EnderswordYT]

Originally posted by lunaris80:

Originally posted by EnderswordYT:

First, at least on these saves, it was impossible to manually change the settings of the pump if it was on automatic control, and to disconnect it from whatever put it into auto control you do need a screwdriver. Second, in the navigation room the wires were fine. The wires in ballast and engine were screwed up.

The reason why you cant change it because it was connected to signal check component. you change the signal check output/input. And it doesn't need screwdriver or wiring.

If the X and Y swapped, you fix it on the sonar monitor X and Y outputs. just swap them back.

Either way, you can't swap the ballast wire and engine wire without screwdriver. And that first pump, thanks for letting me know.

[lunaris80]

no, my bad, Dugong no longer use signal check. Anyone can change the slider as long as its active. You need to wait if theres water and then you can move the slider. No screwdriver involved.

Do you have bots moving around fixing stuff? Someone can just take their screwdriver and and swap X and Y because for beginer who cant wire reactor controller im sure your junction box busted several times.

[EnderswordYT]

Originally posted by lunaris80:

no, my bad, Dugong no longer use signal check. Anyone can change the slider as long as its active. You need to wait if theres water and then you can move the slider. No screwdriver involved.

Do you have bots moving around fixing stuff? Someone can just take their screwdriver and and swap X and Y because for beginer who cant wire reactor controller im sure your junction box busted several times.

We have bots, but their screwdrivers got confiscated and I belive I (and one of my good friends who I am sure didn't do anything as he's the only one who's both competent in the game and takes it seriously) have the only screwdriver on the ship.

[EnderswordYT]

Originally posted by EnderswordYT:

Originally posted by lunaris80:

no, my bad, Dugong no longer use signal check. Anyone can change the slider as long as its active. You need to wait if theres water and then you can move the slider. No screwdriver involved.

Do you have bots moving around fixing stuff? Someone can just take their screwdriver and and swap X and Y because for beginer who cant wire reactor controller im sure your junction box busted several times.

We have bots, but their screwdrivers got confiscated and I belive I (and one of my good friends who I am sure didn't do anything as he's the only one who's both competent in the game and takes it seriously) have the only screwdriver on the ship.

And before anybody says "then it's that guy because he also has a screwdriver", no, he's the only person I actually 100% trust to not have done that, he's actually cooperative, which was unexpected of him, and besides, he is that kind of person who would literally do such a thing only if I was looking just to piss me off, but again, in Barotrauma he takes a very good care of our ship. He's the only person other than me who takes the missions seriously.

[DuckieMcduck]

Originally posted by EnderswordYT:

Originally posted by EnderswordYT:

We have bots, but their screwdrivers got confiscated and I belive I (and one of my good friends who I am sure didn't do anything as he's the only one who's both competent in the game and takes it seriously) have the only screwdriver on the ship.

And before anybody says "then it's that guy because he also has a screwdriver", no, he's the only person I actually 100% trust to not have done that, he's actually cooperative, which was unexpected of him, and besides, he is that kind of person who would literally do such a thing only if I was looking just to piss me off, but again, in Barotrauma he takes a very good care of our ship. He's the only person other than me who takes the missions seriously.

We don't know who your friend is, but everyone's experiences dictate that it's incredibly unlikely a solar flare has flipped the bits on your dugong and made the ballast pump do a funny on its own.

What else do you want the internet denizens to say?

[EnderswordYT]

Originally posted by UnluckyDuckie:

Originally posted by EnderswordYT:

And before anybody says "then it's that guy because he also has a screwdriver", no, he's the only person I actually 100% trust to not have done that, he's actually cooperative, which was unexpected of him, and besides, he is that kind of person who would literally do such a thing only if I was looking just to piss me off, but again, in Barotrauma he takes a very good care of our ship. He's the only person other than me who takes the missions seriously.

We don't know who your friend is, but everyone's experiences dictate that it's incredibly unlikely a solar flare has flipped the bits on your dugong and made the ballast pump do a funny on its own.

What else do you want the internet denizens to say?

Nothing, really. The point is- weird stuff is happening with wires around one of my friends who doesn't even own a screwdriver and couldn't have picked one anywhere on the ship, on two spearate save files. This situation is so absurd that I hope you can see why I blamed Dugong for it a few hours ago (it was stupid and I don't know why I did it but it was the only way to keep my brain from melting)

[lunaris80]

there are screwdriver on the station on enemy ship on wreck. confiscating them at the beginning means nothing. This actually might rub others the wrong way and if you encounter someone who easily offended and willing to play long game, you are screwed. This guy will slowly but surely sink your ship.

This is why I quit server if the room master are too controlling. i dont want to deal with both.

[EnderswordYT]

Originally posted by lunaris80:

there are screwdriver on the station on enemy ship on wreck. confiscating them at the beginning means nothing. This actually might rub others the wrong way and if you encounter someone who easily offended and willing to play long game, you are screwed. This guy will slowly but surely sink your ship.

This is why I quit server if the room master are too controlling. i dont want to deal with both.

A. There weren't any wrecks during the level that the engine and ballast got rewired
B. We only confiscated screwdrivers from bots since nobody else had any
C. It wasn't a public lobby, it was a game with my friends and everybody was fine with eliminating the source of our problems by any means necessary

[lunaris80]

Yea but you 100% stop at station somewhere. Screwdriver are everywhere. Even if you think nobody have screwdriver someone can simply take it from station/beacon/wreck/enemy. or you can craft them with station fabricator.

And im sure one or more of you are sus. You can move pump slider even without screwdriver since dugong no longer use signal check. And there's no chance X and Y output swap by itself.

[EnderswordYT]

Originally posted by lunaris80:

Yea but you 100% stop at station somewhere. Screwdriver are everywhere. Even if you think nobody have screwdriver someone can simply take it from station/beacon/wreck/enemy. or you can craft them with station fabricator.

And im sure one or more of you are sus. You can move pump slider even without screwdriver since dugong no longer use signal check. And there's no chance X and Y output swap by itself.

I don't know how to tell you that, but there WEREN'T any spare screwdrivers onboard when that happened, and we checked everybody's inventories there was only one screwdriver on a person who I am 100% sure is innocent, and their innocence is confirmed by the server log, but the log blames a person who physically couldn't have done that for it.