Do Bots Respawn After they die in Multiplayer Campaigns?

[johnsir]

If they do, under what conditions? Now that the talents are possible for bots in multiplayer and you can't easily check to see if they're all doing fine, losing a bot is WORSE than losing a player... WAY worse!

If there is no way that bots respawn in multiplayer campaigns then there absolutely needs to be a way to save the talents or something. Bots are the only constant in multiplayer which will always provide the talents you need. I come from a primarily public server focused kind of play-style and I can't just have a group of friends that play the game.

[rgarrett]

heres what you do

open console

type enable cheats

type spawn assistant inside or

type spawn press a hit tab to auto fill text type i hit tab again

spawn yerself bots cuz its too expensive to hire new ones everytime players leave and join

[johnsir]

Originally posted by rgarrett:

heres what you do

open console

type enable cheats

type spawn assistant inside or

type spawn press a hit tab to auto fill text type i hit tab again

spawn yerself bots cuz its too expensive to hire new ones everytime players leave and join

That isn't even remotely what I was talking about. Also when I do spawn bots in they seem to just DISAPPEAR for no reason in either singleplayer or multiplayer, maybe both. I don't know what causes it. What I need isn't a new bot, I need my OLD bot that died and lost ALL those talents I spent actual days getting.

[miqz]

Originally posted by johnsir:

Originally posted by rgarrett:

heres what you do

open console

type enable cheats

type spawn assistant inside or

type spawn press a hit tab to auto fill text type i hit tab again

spawn yerself bots cuz its too expensive to hire new ones everytime players leave and join

That isn't even remotely what I was talking about. Also when I do spawn bots in they seem to just DISAPPEAR for no reason in either singleplayer or multiplayer, maybe both. I don't know what causes it. What I need isn't a new bot, I need my OLD bot that died and lost ALL those talents I spent actual days getting.

Iirc you've gotta be playing singleplayer for that, they sure dont respawn in multiplayer

[johnsir]

Originally posted by miqz:

Originally posted by johnsir:

That isn't even remotely what I was talking about. Also when I do spawn bots in they seem to just DISAPPEAR for no reason in either singleplayer or multiplayer, maybe both. I don't know what causes it. What I need isn't a new bot, I need my OLD bot that died and lost ALL those talents I spent actual days getting.

Iirc you've gotta be playing singleplayer for that, they sure dont respawn in multiplayer

What do you mean by that?? Are you saying bots respawn in singleplayer but not multiplayer?

[Deer.Bullet]

Johnsir mah bruh, bots are bots, they dont respawn by themselves

[johnsir]

Originally posted by Deer.Bullet:

Johnsir mah bruh, bots are bots, they dont respawn by themselves

I was just wondering if they changed it or anything as it's obvious having so much progress on something that can just be lost forever in an instant is a really bad game design for this kind of game.

[miqz]

Originally posted by johnsir:

Originally posted by Deer.Bullet:

Johnsir mah bruh, bots are bots, they dont respawn by themselves

I was just wondering if they changed it or anything as it's obvious having so much progress on something that can just be lost forever in an instant is a really bad game design for this kind of game. :DSTskull:

I dont know for sure but i just googled it and that's what the first replies said, i just know for sure that in the campaign i've been playing with friends, bots dont respawn for us, if they die they die

[rgarrett]

hence why you add new bots every round depending on your playerbase

never seen them disappear

[johnsir]

Originally posted by rgarrett:

hence why you add new bots every round depending on your playerbase

never seen them disappear

I'd rather pay the price for new bots than have cheats enabled on my server though. I don't want people to ask me for ridiculous things or expect me to be a cheater.

[Zen_Abe]

lol bots are EVA buddies and dispensable decoys. they're so stupid they can't make good pathfinding during ruin expeditions. i'd rather have a bot attacked by mudraptors than a highly talented character getting killed otherwise. but if you can't lose a bot, then lock it somewhere as a pet.

[johnsir]

Originally posted by Zen_Abe:

lol bots are EVA buddies and dispensable decoys. they're so stupid they can't make good pathfinding during ruin expeditions. i'd rather have a bot attacked by mudraptors than a highly talented character getting killed otherwise. but if you can't lose a bot, then lock it somewhere as a pet.

The problem is the bots are now the most important ones to keep alive as they LOSE their talents when they die, unlike players, which respawn again.

[Jangonett]

Regrettably bots are in a bad place. I had the captain bot. Got it from a mission and was building him up. Players knew to keep him alive. Well I got one griefer and they managed to kill all my bots sadly. Luckily the ban list is in place now. Got 25 people on it.

[[OTS]EchoZenLogos]

If you lose bots, you lose them for good, but isn't that kinda the point of a simulation - that you have more permanent consequences sometimes? If you lose your players you'll also "lose the game" by default, unless you change things so that respawning and such is painless.

I do think an option to make them able to respawn or be repurchased at the next station would be nice for convenience, but honestly speaking if you lose a bot that you truly don't want to lose - it seems better to me to just reload the last save.

[johnsir]

Originally posted by OTSEchoZenLogos:

If you lose bots, you lose them for good, but isn't that kinda the point of a simulation - that you have more permanent consequences sometimes? If you lose your players you'll also "lose the game" by default, unless you change things so that respawning and such is painless.

I do think an option to make them able to respawn or be repurchased at the next station would be nice for convenience, but honestly speaking if you lose a bot that you truly don't want to lose - it seems better to me to just reload the last save.

Maybe that's ok for you and your millions of hours and having literally all night every night, but I have a LIFE to live. I can't go restarting rounds 7 times in a row because one of my bots (with SEVEN TALENTS) keeps dying!

[[OTS]EchoZenLogos]

Originally posted by johnsir:

Maybe that's ok for you and your millions of hours and having literally all night every night, but I have a LIFE to live. I can't go restarting rounds 7 times in a row because one of my bots (with SEVEN TALENTS) keeps dying!

I neither have "millions of hours" or "literally all night every night" to play, but whatever fantasies float your boat I suppose. Since I suggested that there should be an option to select to avoid this problem, and you seem offended by that suggestion (or ignored it), I don't really have anything else to add.