which vanilla sub should i buy?

[MythN7]

so i was looking at all the subs, and i was first under the impression that you would keep adancing to a new sub till you got the best one.
but it seems that none of the subs are in essence the "best" one in terms of final for end game.

does this mean at max upgrades, all subs are identical in terms of hull HP, and crush depth?

im still pretty new to the game, but only want to buy 1 more sub that will be the one i use forever more, which one is most efficent for all aspects of the game?

[Dbat]

Deep Diver class subs have 20% more pressure resistance, allowing you to go deeper with less hull upgrades. I think the only vanilla deep diver is the Remora.
As for the best sub overall, it’s up to preference and also dependent on crew size. The only definitive thing I’d say is to avoid the Typhoon 2 like the plague.

[MythN7]

Originally posted by Dbat:

Deep Diver class subs have 20% more pressure resistance, allowing you to go deeper with less hull upgrades. I think the only vanilla deep diver is the Remora.
As for the best sub overall, it’s up to preference and also dependent on crew size. The only definitive thing I’d say is to avoid the Typhoon 2 like the plague.

the deep diver is required for the end of the map pressure wise?
i was looking at it, and the fact it has no botom guns was turning me off.

[Greb]

You can get used to all of them give or take some time, and with upgrades to iron out certain flaws of course. I'm not sure I'm qualified to say what submarine is ultimately the best but the ones I've used and enjoyed the most was the Dugong, Azimuth and the Humpback. That was a long time ago but I definitely remember favouring those...but I will admit, we never made it further than the Europan Ridge in those...it was just early game newbie stuff.

The Humpback ended up being favoured by one of my friends but I hated it due to a personal reason, the yellow lighting throughout the sub was not suited to my visual palette. At least I think it was the Humpback anyway.

One of the Typhons, not sure which one, was incredibly enjoyable when we managed to get a five man crew together. It had a lot of little nooks for us all to inhabit, but man was it not very fun to get off the ground at the start lol. It also has a bit of an annoying layout and Cargo location, if I recall.

Dugong I wouldn't consider suitable for a full campaign though, since it lacks constructors I believe. Outposts become very thin as you go deeper, so you'll want a sub that has a full suite of constructors and preferably a good amount of storage space as well.

I guess if I had to pick a submarine it'd be either the Humpback, Remora or the Typhon though. Good space, good weapon coverage, and they all have a railgun. Haven't personally used the Remora though, but having looked it over just now, I want to next time I play lol.

https://barotraumagame.com/wiki/Submarines

I guess just have a little look-see at these and decide what one appeals to you the most, maybe. Open them in the sub editor and check how they look in lighting mode if you're as fussy as me when it comes to perfect illumination on the eyes too, maybe.

Originally posted by MythN7:

the deep diver is required for the end of the map pressure wise?
i was looking at it, and the fact it has no botom guns was turning me off.

Far as I know, the third area takes you beyond 3500m which is beyond crush depth if you've not purchased any Hull upgrades. I don't know for sure what Deep Diver does, but I know it has bonus Hull strength, which allows it to possibly go beyond 3500m crush depth without Hull upgrades or something...but Hull upgrades are so cheap that I usually max them out as one of the first things I do anyway.

I think I saw someone talking about the ending having two outcomes depending on if you had a Deep Diver sub or not, but honestly I don't know for sure myself, I've never gotten beyond the third area thus far..

[MythN7]

what about the durability of the hulls?
i was looking online and cant find anywhere that states if the class or just sub in general have varrying stats on this.

like is a dugong at max upgrades just as sturdy as typhons for example, where 1 was desgined for front line battle and the other not at all.

[John Pork]

You should probably buy the Typhon 2 and max out the durability and reactor if you have a big crew but if you don't have a big crew then just about anything works.

[Greb]

Originally posted by MythN7:

what about the durability of the hulls?
i was looking online and cant find anywhere that states if the class or just sub in general have varrying stats on this.

like is a dugong at max upgrades just as sturdy as typhons for example, where 1 was desgined for front line battle and the other not at all.

Pretty sure all hulls are equal, at least I don't remember if you can edit hull pieces to be in various states of durability in the editor anyway.

I don't know the exact health (I'm sure a data miner does) but I assume the numbers are something like every hull piece is at 100 HP by default, no matter the sub, and increase by 10 HP with every upgrade up to 200 HP. Deep Diver probably adds something like +25% hull strength hull would start with 125 HP and increase up to 250 HP.

That's just how I assume it'd work, I'm 100% sure the numbers are wrong or it doesn't work like that, for all I know overall hull integrity is based on the weight and size of the submarine in question, but I don't think it is - can't tell much difference between big subs and small subs in regards to how fast stuff claws through the hull (it's basically paper at 0/10 upgrades)

No clue how crush depth translates into hull strength though. Hopefully someone comes along who know what they're talking about lol. For all I know, Deep Diver might only effect crush depth resistance and not hull damage HP too.

But uh basically I think every submarine has identical hull strength no matter what if they're at the same hull strength upgrade level, with the same Deep Diver status being equal to each other as well.

I saw someone mention those classes - Deep Diver, Attack, Scout, Transport, Shuttle etc, are all planned to provide bonuses to submarines eventually, but currently only Deep Diver does. You can expect differences between submarines in the future, most likely. If you want to be a munchkin you'd always pick a "Deep Diver" class submarine right now I guess.

[MythN7]

ya right now all i play with is the AI crew, so being able to manage my resources to get in and out of sub on back and forth trips from wrecks, / stations to use there power in crafting is pretty big for me, as well as not having to tinker with custom automaton wiring asside from repairing what breaks.
im thinking about the remora, but not sure yet, if the drone is worth it over the deep diver, that deep diver looks like a nightmare to run around with only the AI to help me.

[Señor Robótico]

Originally posted by Greb:

The Humpback ended up being favoured by one of my friends but I hated it due to a personal reason, the yellow lighting throughout the sub was not suited to my visual palette. At least I think it was the Humpback anyway.

You can use a screwdriver and "rewire" the lights to change their colour!

[DuckieMcduck]

Humpback is an excellent all arounder for the entire game, but you'll need the Remora for the Hydro Wastes (last segment).

Originally posted by MythN7:

the deep diver is required for the end of the map pressure wise?
i was looking at it, and the fact it has no botom guns was turning me off.

Remora makes up for not having a bottom gun by having a depth charge launcher tube. This allows you to deploy Decoys and Explosive charges which free you and delete most things in the game when combined.

[MythN7]

i went with the azimuth, has good gun views, espically once i will be able to add the one on top front. needs small crew, and decent layout.

I dident wanna end up being overwhelmed on a larger sub for now heh.

i think if i go with a larger sub, i will load it in the editor and move the various props around so its easier to manage with the AI crew, and be more quality of life on the main storages.

[MadArtillery]

I'll slide in with a left field choice with the Big Rig. Best vannilla sub I've ever used, gun on top and bottom with really good coils and simple layout works well for ai. A small crew and a decent pilot will be able to handle pretty much anything in it. Definitetly the only sub I can say I enjoyed every aspect of. Just make sure to remember to buy the bottom gun at some point as it's actually quite a lethal low crew death machine despite being a transport. Only shame is it's not a deep diver. They really need to release a few more deep divers by default or offer an expensive way to give a ship that +20% through upgrades.

[Greb]

Originally posted by TTC Señor Robótico GER:

You can use a screwdriver and "rewire" the lights to change their colour!

I was dumb back then and I'm still dumb now, but I'll try that next time I play. I thought I tried something similar but couldn't change the info box, but maybe I didn't have a screwdriver lol.

I will remember to have another look at that though, for sure. Sounds like it could be fun, plus a good way to irritate a friend or two

[Wally]

join the gong squad

[Emu]

Ive seen a lot of typhon 2 haters and im interested why.
I don’t particularly like nor hate the typhon 2, just curious
As for the question at hand i personally am warming up to the humpback. Just slap her some upgrades and your golden

[MythN7]

when i bought my new sub, all my upgrades dident transfer, my new sub had 0 upgrades.