Running to slow

[Waizard13]

Hi, I am having slow mo issues on the game. Everything moves like is underwater. I already set all to minimum possible specs. My hardware is
i7 2.8
16gb ram
gtx 1050 4gb video card

No matter what I try the game is really slow specially in combat segments and large areas. Im kind of new to pc master race (Ps4 player and just got gaming laptop 6 months ago so I am not that good at optimizing specs or tweaking with video card options) so if anyone has suggestions or solved the same problem please let me know. I searched a lot on tutorials and other threads but for my hardware no one seems to have trouble.

[Andrew]

change framerate to variable in graphics options

[Waizard13]

Already is. Everything is on bare minimum as well.

[DeadPhoenix]

Laptop hardware is usually weaker compared to the Deskop version. a 1050 laptop is possibly 15 to 20% slower. Same for the CPU.

[Kaldaien]

Originally posted by DeadPhoenix:

Laptop hardware is usually weaker compared to the Deskop version. a 1050 laptop is possibly 15 to 20% slower. Same for the CPU.

My laptop's GTX 1080 runs about 200 MHz faster than my desktop GTX 1080 because MSI binned the @#$% out of the card since it was a $4,000 laptop. So that's far from an accurate statement. Laptop GPUs these days are identical, if not better, than their desktop counterpart.

[Herbalacious]

Quick rundown of what to do. Easy stuff first. Looks like you meet minimum reqs. Make sure you don't have viruses or malware. Make sure you have latest drivers. Basically check to see your not wasting resources you aren't aware of. If you're overclocked at all cpu/ram/gpu then try playing with it at stock and then turning the overclock on one at a time first cpu, then ram, then gpu (for me this order works best).

If your certain you're running stable try capping the fps to 60 and start with mid/low settings and slowly raise them as you want. Read below if you want an explanation.

So before we start just capping the fps and seeing if it works is a lot faster then going thru all this other stuff.

A way to see if my solution will even help is to use msi afterburner and run the game for a while. At least like 10 mins so you can get a solid look at the graphs. Check the graph where your gpu usage is and then check the power limit and voltage limit and see where it's at. If your gpu is at 100% usage and your hitting the power limit often then your most likely taxing your gpu too hard. To be clear, the power limit has a value of either 0 or 1. It only triggers if your gpu is working way too hard or your psu isn't able to handle the load (Probably. There are exceptions like BIOS updates, etc.) Being on a laptop may make a difference, but I think this is basic guideline if you have issues running demanding games.

When I first tried to play this game there was some issues for me with a 1080ti and eventually it would crash to desktop with no error or anything just complete close. It would take some time for the symptoms to occur. Would play perfectly for 30ish+ mins, but then stuttering and eventually crash. Certain cut scenes would cause a crash within 30 seconds of it playing every time no matter when I tried to watch them. Turning on some overlays showed my fps was all over the place. Ranging from 150+ to 40's. Also I noticed my power to the gpu was capping out often and the usage was at a constant 100%.

Yes I know GPU's can handle 100% usage while playing, but that's if you have a perfect setup with great cooling airflow and a giant psu. I only have a mini 600w psu and to keep my m-itx steam box going strong I try not to overload the gpu with unnecessary work.

After capping the fps to 60 it never really gets close to 100% usage, runs buttery smooth no more stutters/crashes, my temps are significantly lower not just on the gpu and my PC doesn't sound like a jet engine when I'm trying to slay some demons.

[DeadPhoenix]

Originally posted by Kaldaien:

Originally posted by DeadPhoenix:

Laptop hardware is usually weaker compared to the Deskop version. a 1050 laptop is possibly 15 to 20% slower. Same for the CPU.

My laptop's GTX 1080 runs about 200 MHz faster than my desktop GTX 1080 because MSI binned the @#$% out of the card since it was a $4,000 laptop. So that's far from an accurate statement. Laptop GPUs these days are identical, if not better, than their desktop counterpart.

And for half that price you can build a PC with better specs. a GTX 1080 Laptop is actually slower compared to the desktop. Higher clock speed doesn't say much. It will be slower regardless.

You just wasted 4K on a inferior product :P

[Kisamefishman]

your video card has a control panel make sure that you set your game under the correct video card

[Waizard13]

Originally posted by DeadPhoenix:

Originally posted by Kaldaien:

My laptop's GTX 1080 runs about 200 MHz faster than my desktop GTX 1080 because MSI binned the @#$% out of the card since it was a $4,000 laptop. So that's far from an accurate statement. Laptop GPUs these days are identical, if not better, than their desktop counterpart.

And for half that price you can build a PC with better specs. a GTX 1080 Laptop is actually slower compared to the desktop. Higher clock speed doesn't say much. It will be slower regardless.

You just wasted 4K on a inferior product :P

No point discussing this here, I travel a lot for study and work and therefore need a laptop instead of desktop. That being said, thanks Herbalacious for the tips, had no idea about msi afterburner (New to pc master race!) but even watching some tutorials (Its a bit confusing) and setting your configurations game still runs at slow pace. I noticed the fps is around 25 (Even if I fix to 60) but none of my gpu/cpu are overworked to my knowledge. I took a few screen shots I can email or send you. Admitely dmc 5 is the heavies game on my pc right now, but I run overwatch, warframe, destiny 2 and apex legends without any problem. There must be some stupid configuration I am not following right.

[Waizard13]

Originally posted by Herbalacious:

Quick rundown of what to do. Easy stuff first. Looks like you meet minimum reqs. Make sure you don't have viruses or malware. Make sure you have latest drivers. Basically check to see your not wasting resources you aren't aware of. If you're overclocked at all cpu/ram/gpu then try playing with it at stock and then turning the overclock on one at a time first cpu, then ram, then gpu (for me this order works best).

If your certain you're running stable try capping the fps to 60 and start with mid/low settings and slowly raise them as you want. Read below if you want an explanation.

So before we start just capping the fps and seeing if it works is a lot faster then going thru all this other stuff.

A way to see if my solution will even help is to use msi afterburner and run the game for a while. At least like 10 mins so you can get a solid look at the graphs. Check the graph where your gpu usage is and then check the power limit and voltage limit and see where it's at. If your gpu is at 100% usage and your hitting the power limit often then your most likely taxing your gpu too hard. To be clear, the power limit has a value of either 0 or 1. It only triggers if your gpu is working way too hard or your psu isn't able to handle the load (Probably. There are exceptions like BIOS updates, etc.) Being on a laptop may make a difference, but I think this is basic guideline if you have issues running demanding games.

When I first tried to play this game there was some issues for me with a 1080ti and eventually it would crash to desktop with no error or anything just complete close. It would take some time for the symptoms to occur. Would play perfectly for 30ish+ mins, but then stuttering and eventually crash. Certain cut scenes would cause a crash within 30 seconds of it playing every time no matter when I tried to watch them. Turning on some overlays showed my fps was all over the place. Ranging from 150+ to 40's. Also I noticed my power to the gpu was capping out often and the usage was at a constant 100%.

Yes I know GPU's can handle 100% usage while playing, but that's if you have a perfect setup with great cooling airflow and a giant psu. I only have a mini 600w psu and to keep my m-itx steam box going strong I try not to overload the gpu with unnecessary work.

After capping the fps to 60 it never really gets close to 100% usage, runs buttery smooth no more stutters/crashes, my temps are significantly lower not just on the gpu and my PC doesn't sound like a jet engine when I'm trying to slay some demons.

thanks Herbalacious for the tips, had no idea about msi afterburner (New to pc master race!) but even watching some tutorials (Its a bit confusing) and setting your configurations game still runs at slow pace. I noticed the fps is around 25 (Even if I fix to 60) but none of my gpu/cpu are overworked to my knowledge. I took a few screen shots I can email or send you. Admitely dmc 5 is the heavies game on my pc right now, but I run overwatch, warframe, destiny 2 and apex legends without any problem. There must be some stupid configuration I am not following right.

[Waizard13]

https://pasteboard.co/Ii2yqwI.png
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Some screenshots if any kind and knowledgeable soul knows what to fix. From what little I know it does not seem anything is capping at 100%

[Kaldaien]

Originally posted by DeadPhoenix:

Originally posted by Kaldaien:

My laptop's GTX 1080 runs about 200 MHz faster than my desktop GTX 1080 because MSI binned the @#$% out of the card since it was a $4,000 laptop. So that's far from an accurate statement. Laptop GPUs these days are identical, if not better, than their desktop counterpart.

And for half that price you can build a PC with better specs. a GTX 1080 Laptop is actually slower compared to the desktop. Higher clock speed doesn't say much. It will be slower regardless.

You just wasted 4K on a inferior product :P

I have a GTX 1080 Ti desktop that's faster than the laptop.

Trust me the laptop was in no way inferior to a similarly spec'd PC. They don't make PCs with these things, hell you couldn't buy a standalone 4K G-Sync display when I bought that laptop. So unless you want to continue your ignorance, please stop.

[DeadPhoenix]

Originally posted by Kaldaien:

Originally posted by DeadPhoenix:

And for half that price you can build a PC with better specs. a GTX 1080 Laptop is actually slower compared to the desktop. Higher clock speed doesn't say much. It will be slower regardless.

You just wasted 4K on a inferior product :P

I have a GTX 1080 Ti desktop that's faster than the laptop.

Trust me the laptop was in no way inferior to a similarly spec'd PC. They don't make PCs with these things, hell you couldn't buy a standalone 4K G-Sync display when I bought that laptop. So unless you want to continue your ignorance, please stop.

No. Because you're claiming a laptop is better than a desktop. Which it clearly is not. I can build a system for half the Price, that is not only faster, but quiter, cooler, and the ability to upgrade it in the future. And you spend 4K on a laptop which can only swap out the RAM and HDD. And a few more years down the line, and it will be obselete. There goes 4K down the drain. Enjoy it while it last :P

[Waizard13]

Cmon guys, this is all pointless. I am just looking to solve a problem and help those with the same. Discussing what laptop or pc is better does not help and I cannot have a desktop with me anyway.

[Kaldaien]

Originally posted by DeadPhoenix:

Originally posted by Kaldaien:

I have a GTX 1080 Ti desktop that's faster than the laptop.

Trust me the laptop was in no way inferior to a similarly spec'd PC. They don't make PCs with these things, hell you couldn't buy a standalone 4K G-Sync display when I bought that laptop. So unless you want to continue your ignorance, please stop.

No. Because you're claiming a laptop is better than a desktop. Which it clearly is not. I can build a system for half the Price, that is not only faster, but quiter, cooler, and the ability to upgrade it in the future. And you spend 4K on a laptop which can only swap out the RAM and HDD. And a few more years down the line, and it will be obselete. There goes 4K down the drain. Enjoy it while it last :P

It's the same hardware, stop being an idiot. If you continue to claim that laptop GPUs are slower than the same exact desktop GPU people are going to call you out. Not only is that wrong in the base model, but laptop GPUs are usually binned desktop GPUs. You're flat out wrong.

[DeadPhoenix]

Originally posted by Waizard13:

Cmon guys, this is all pointless. I am just looking to solve a problem and help those with the same. Discussing what laptop or pc is better does not help and I cannot have a desktop with me anyway.

Maybe you should have spended a little bit more money on a better GPU. The GTX 1050 is pretty much an entry GPU when it comes to gaming these days. Have you tried running the game at 720p and low settings???

Originally posted by Kaldaien:

Originally posted by DeadPhoenix:

No. Because you're claiming a laptop is better than a desktop. Which it clearly is not. I can build a system for half the Price, that is not only faster, but quiter, cooler, and the ability to upgrade it in the future. And you spend 4K on a laptop which can only swap out the RAM and HDD. And a few more years down the line, and it will be obselete. There goes 4K down the drain. Enjoy it while it last :P

It's the same hardware, stop being an idiot. If you continue to claim that laptop GPUs are slower than the same exact desktop GPU people are going to call you out. Not only is that wrong in the base model, but laptop GPUs are usually binned desktop GPUs. You're flat out wrong.

They're lower binned GPU's. So they will always run slower compared to their GPU counter part. All though not as bad the previous generation Mobile GPU's, wich were up to 40% slower. that 15% isn't huge, but the difference will always be there. I can't understand why people think spending 4000 bucks on a laptop is justified. I would spend around 2000 max if i was shopping for a Laptop. a Desktop GPU wouldn't even fit inside a Laptop, so they have cut corners somewhere, to keep it in spec.