Zombie quarry

[Sick Puppy]

Hi
so in the quarry area I've got 2 iron mines. Is there some way to swap one out for coal?
Thanks.

[EVIL Shenanigans]

Regarding the zombie iron mine, I think it's every 3 or 4 iron slabs they mine, they mine 1 coal. You can't have them prioritize coal, that's just the way they operate. If you need a lot more coal than iron, feel free to mine some coal yourself, due east of the zombie iron mine.

[Regular Boar]

I think this is really bad design. My coal demand is much higher than iron end game plus they mine a really low amount of coal and it stops alltogether after the iron storage is full. I don't get why the devs couldn't make 2 seperate mines since there are already 2 mining spots.
or at least they could have made it so that coal gets mined continously after the iron storage is full

[MonkehMaster]

you can mine the coal and fill a trunk quite quickly, i mined it once and still havent gone back, simply because my furnaces and kitchens are loaded to around 10k and havent even used up the coal in the trunk i filled.

[Regular Boar]

You are not incorrect per se.
However while arguably one zombie workstation is more or less usefull than another I still want to use every one proberly since the game offers them even if it would not be a big deal to do the work manually. And as of now you really can't use the coal mine

[(N☆G) Jackal ★JJ★]

Originally posted by Regular Boar:

I think this is really bad design. My coal demand is much higher than iron end game plus they mine a really low amount of coal and it stops alltogether after the iron storage is full. I don't get why the devs couldn't make 2 seperate mines since there are already 2 mining spots.
or at least they could have made it so that coal gets mined continously after the iron storage is full

Honestly if you go to the coal deposit you can get like 500 coal in about 2 mins.

You simply get so much from doing it yourself per use that there isnt much point to have it automated

[Regular Boar]

500 coal is not a massive supply if you use furnaces, brewing stand, oven etc. excessively. Besides that is not the point. Like I said I'd like to use all the featues like intended. One could also say there is no need for using zombie alchemy bench because you can easily meet all your demand in 2 mins yourself. Technically you don't need zombies at all because time is infinite. Bottom line is: there is a zombie coal mine in the game. I want to use it please!

[bartekltg]

Originally posted by Regular Boar:

I think this is really bad design. My coal demand is much higher than iron end game plus they mine a really low amount of coal and it stops alltogether after the iron storage is full.

You have an infinite amount of fuel from trees. Put a zombie on a chooping duty:) Firewood is a very good fuel. One log gives 5*15 = 75 firewood, It is worth (in the furnace) ~42 coals. 5 logs > two stack of coal.

It is a nice source of fuel in the early game, and it become great when you get the free workforce.

[Regular Boar]

oh yeah never thought of that : ) Thank you for this!

[(N☆G) Jackal ★JJ★]

Originally posted by Regular Boar:

500 coal is not a massive supply if you use furnaces, brewing stand, oven etc. excessively. Besides that is not the point. Like I said I'd like to use all the featues like intended. One could also say there is no need for using zombie alchemy bench because you can easily meet all your demand in 2 mins yourself. Technically you don't need zombies at all because time is infinite. Bottom line is: there is a zombie coal mine in the game. I want to use it please!

It is... I have all of that.
500 can put over 1,000 in all of that each.

You are talking to someone who played the hell out of this game and made 'the perfect' graveyard by getting the max possible points you can have for a graveyard before the refugee camp came up which is around 1260.

I'm not making the argument of you dont need zombies doing things.
I am making the argument that a zombie mining coal would take forever to cover your needs. Even with 26 white skulls your zombie only operates at ~45% and them getting a few bits of coal vs you getting massive stacks wouldnt be something that is all that useful.

As someone said you can have zombies on logs and firewood crafting....
Why you would need this is beyond me since you can fill your entire bag and 3 universal bags of pure coal in just one day cycle and then not have to worry about coal for over a month in the game.

[Rumpelcrutchskin]

One trip to manually gather coal will keep you going for months, pointless to mess with firewood even if you have zombie woodcutter.

[(N☆G) Jackal ★JJ★]

Originally posted by Rumpelcrutchskin:

One trip to manually gather coal will keep you going for months, pointless to mess with firewood even if you have zombie woodcutter.

Yeah, pretty much this.
10 coal nets you 180 fuel.
You get like stacks of 30 per single use of mining.

So just doing it once gets you a whooping 540 fuel for ONE of your things.
Just doing it for a minute you can easily get 500 coal.
Which gives you a total of around 9000 fuel to use across whatever you need.... its just so easy to just grab the coal from the mining spot yourself and then never worry about it for another 10 hours of gameplay basically.

[MonkehMaster]

Originally posted by (N☆G) Jackal ★JJ★:

Originally posted by Regular Boar:

500 coal is not a massive supply if you use furnaces, brewing stand, oven etc. excessively. Besides that is not the point. Like I said I'd like to use all the featues like intended. One could also say there is no need for using zombie alchemy bench because you can easily meet all your demand in 2 mins yourself. Technically you don't need zombies at all because time is infinite. Bottom line is: there is a zombie coal mine in the game. I want to use it please!

It is... I have all of that.
500 can put over 1,000 in all of that each.

You are talking to someone who played the hell out of this game and made 'the perfect' graveyard by getting the max possible points you can have for a graveyard before the refugee camp came up which is around 1260.

I'm not making the argument of you dont need zombies doing things.
I am making the argument that a zombie mining coal would take forever to cover your needs. Even with 26 white skulls your zombie only operates at ~45% and them getting a few bits of coal vs you getting massive stacks wouldnt be something that is all that useful.

As someone said you can have zombies on logs and firewood crafting....
Why you would need this is beyond me since you can fill your entire bag and 3 universal bags of pure coal in just one day cycle and then not have to worry about coal for over a month in the game.

Correction, 26 Wskull zombie is 65%.

Also I'm willing to bet a zombie with a porter would easily supply coal for the keepers needs, most likely supply way faster than you can technically use it and much faster than gathering it yourself.

That being said, a coal mine isn't necessarily needed, but would be more efficient and helpful, to say the least.

[MonkehMaster]

Originally posted by Rumpelcrutchskin:

One trip to manually gather coal will keep you going for months, pointless to mess with firewood even if you have zombie woodcutter.

Agreed, using firewood wouldn't work well, seeing as you have other stuff to make with that would and the zombie cutter and it's porter won't keep up with your needs.

Maybe if there was 2 cutters and 2 porters... then maybe they could keep up.

[bartekltg]

Originally posted by MonkehMaster:

Agreed, using firewood wouldn't work well, seeing as you have other stuff to make with that would and the zombie cutter and it's porter won't keep up with your needs.

Maybe if there was 2 cutters and 2 porters... then maybe they could keep up.

Nah. Most of the times you have more wood than you need. Expecially in the late game. Just put there something better than 12% zombie.

The difference between manually mining coal and making firewood is
you do not have to spend a day holding F near the mine :)

On the other hand mining coal gives some resources, for example is a main source of sulfur (and the only other source of life powder are Intestine).