Where to find blue point?

[borysszyc]

Hi all,
From where we can get earn blue points for technics?

[chados]

make glass thing and buy the blue book at the light house

[chados]

you can also study body part and ithem form the theologie tree

[CloudSeeker]

Most of it comes from research. You can always eat a pie or a cake and get extra points on everything you research. Blue points is hard to get if you do not prioritize it. You need to unlock the church in order to unlock researching.

[NecromancyBlack]

Once you have the study table certain items can be researched once for bluepoints (usually a lot) and some items like polished stones or chapters/books generate blue points from crafting them.

A good one for blue point studying are all the gravestones and grave fences you can build. Each type should be researchable for a good chunk of points.

[GlassDeviant]

The extra blue points from pies and cakes aren't really worth the time and effort that goes into making them. Eventually blue points are infinite, so DO NOT waste your money on the books from the Astrologer. Once you get zombies harvesting marble and delivering it to your main workshop, you can just carve marble pieces for infinite blue points, but early on you get them wherever you can...

- writing (notes, chapters, books, and even I think the sermons give blue when you make them)
- convert sand to glass to conical flasks to either lenses or advanced conical flasks
- collect old tombstones and grave fences and study those (especially from the wheat fiend and the burned out farmstead)
- study/research anything you make from stone, marble, sand, clay as it probably gives blue tech
- study organs, dark organs and (not sure about this) other body parts/substances
- candles and incense too I think, or maybe only the higher tier kinds

All time easiest early game blue points: make rope from hemp.

[SamuraiJones]

As the guy above mentioned, marble carving does bring blues. Researching grave items is the easiest way to get it earlier. Also, I found the blue books very helpful, and bought em every time the astrologer was available. But then, I had plenty of money coming in, so it might not be as good if you don't have the income yet.

[Strauss]

Just remember eat cake first before you do any research

[CloudSeeker]

Originally posted by Zombielord Ativan:

The extra blue points from pies and cakes aren't really worth the time and effort that goes into making them.

........ How about that you unlock the ability to mine coal. Mine some coal and then go to the blacksmith and sell it and get your +6 silver for it. A Grape pie only cost 80 copper to buy. You do not have to make ANYTHING at all. Stop hogging on all of the money and then later try to find a way to spend it all, it is now you are expected to spend some.

[GlassDeviant]

Originally posted by CloudSeeker:

Originally posted by Zombielord Ativan:

The extra blue points from pies and cakes aren't really worth the time and effort that goes into making them.

........ How about that you unlock the ability to mine coal. Mine some coal and then go to the blacksmith and sell it and get your +6 silver for it. A Grape pie only cost 80 copper to buy. You do not have to make ANYTHING at all. Stop hogging on all of the money and then later try to find a way to spend it all, it is now you are expected to spend some.

What's your point? Did I say anything about money? You're making unfounded assumptions here.

I stated that there is absolutely no need to use cake (or any other food with the Circumspect buff) to get blue points. If anything is being greedy (which you seem to be implying), it is using those items to squeeze every last blue point, which serves little purpose as they are in infinite supply.

Right now I am finishing off my graveyard and sitting on over 4000 spare blue points. They are difficult to get in the beginning, but by no means are they so dear that you have to squeeze out every last little point. If you want to throw our money around, go buy up all the hemp and hemp seeds from Dig and turn them into rope for blue points. You will get more blue points from doing that with your +6s from selling coal than by wasting it on grape pie.

Think through what you are saying before you post, it saves you a lot of embarrassment.

[CloudSeeker]

Originally posted by Zombielord Ativan:

Originally posted by CloudSeeker:

........ How about that you unlock the ability to mine coal. Mine some coal and then go to the blacksmith and sell it and get your +6 silver for it. A Grape pie only cost 80 copper to buy. You do not have to make ANYTHING at all. Stop hogging on all of the money and then later try to find a way to spend it all, it is now you are expected to spend some.

What's your point? Did I say anything about money? You're making unfounded assumptions here.

I stated that there is absolutely no need to use cake (or any other food with the Circumspect buff) to get blue points. If anything is being greedy (which you seem to be implying), it is using those items to squeeze every last blue point, which serves little purpose as they are in infinite supply.

My point is that YOU make a point about how much pies and cakes are not worth making due to how much it takes to create them. My point is to show that point is objectivily incorrect. It also has nothing to do about greed. So what if you can end the game with 4000 points? That is not an argument because what matters is when you have the points required. When you have 4000 points there is nothing else to research. At that point it is kind of not worth eating pies and getting blue points because there is no use for them, but we are talking about when you get like 4 faith per week and struggle to get like 20-50 points at all, and have all of the techs to research.

We are not talking about end game, we are talking about early game. You do not make a point about how to manage resources in lets say a RTS game when you won the game and there is no enemy left to fight.

[borysszyc]

Thanks all of you for answering. I'm gonna try what you say. @CloudSeeker & @Zombielord Ativan, stop arguing. Game should combine, not divide :) Make love not war :)

[GlassDeviant]

You are losing yourself in your own fog.

As I said, you can get as many blue points early on as you want by making ROPE from HEMP for MUCH CHEAPER than the feeble amount of extra blue points you get from cake or grape pie. Go do a little research. Go and test every item that gives blue points, with and without Circumspect, and you will see how little actual effect you get out of it. It's not worth the time if you make it yourself, or the money if you buy the grape pie. I used to think cake/pie was worth it too, but then I put some effort and thought into it, and figured out that it wasn't. Until you have put the same work and thought into it, all your words are nothing, because they are based on uninformed opinion and blindly repeating everyone else's uninformed opinion, not facts.

[CloudSeeker]

Originally posted by Zombielord Ativan:

You are losing yourself in your own fog.

As I said, you can get as many blue points early on as you want by making ROPE from HEMP for MUCH CHEAPER than the feeble amount of extra blue points you get from cake or grape pie. Go do a little research. Go and test every item that gives blue points, with and without Circumspect, and you will see how little actual effect you get out of it. It's not worth the time if you make it yourself, or the money if you buy the grape pie. I used to think cake/pie was worth it too, but then I put some effort and thought into it, and figured out that it wasn't. Until you have put the same work and thought into it, all your words are nothing, because they are based on uninformed opinion and blindly repeating everyone else's uninformed opinion, not facts.

.......... You do know that you are going to have to study things as well right? If you are going to have to research things. Just buy a cake or make a cake as they are easy to get and make. What is cheaper? Buying seeds, planting them harvesting them and then make rope, or buy some pie. What are you even planning to do with all that rope anyway? You are right now arguing that getting extra points for doing what you are going to do anyway is bad and not worth it.

Yeah. Good argument there. Stop being a d!ck.

[GlassDeviant]

As I already said, Candles. Have you never made candles? I go through candles faster than I can make them (due to the need for bones to make white powder to make white paint), at 30 per sermon.

I get plenty of blue points from studying, I've studied everything in the game that gives blue points and most things that don't. I didn't need the pitiful little extra bit from cake/pie, it made no difference to me at all because I made rope and glass and written items and marble and candles and so on.

Also, don't put words in my mouth. I never once said that making cake/pie is bad. I said the extra effort and/or expense, especially at the beginning when money is tight (and your example of going to mine coal to sell so you can buy pie from the inn costs you time) isn't worth it, in fact is is even less worth than just making cake/pie yourself.

If you want to waste your time/money on cake/pie, go ahead, I really don't give a rat's back end, it's yours to waste. Just be aware that you are wasting it.

Originally posted by CloudSeeker:

Yeah. Good argument there. Stop being a d!ck.

Name calling doesn't reinforce your point, it just shows that you have nothing to support your (often wild and unsubstantiated) arguments, a stark contrast to my actual arguments, backed with facts, something you don't appear to be capable of, in the same way you don't appear to be capable of going and doing your own research regarding how much extra blue points you get from researching various items.

[borysszyc]

Guys, i need help without that blue points and also faith(this yellow circle). By mistake i sell Sermon (i dont know that it called sermon im english version) to the bishop And I can not celebrate Mass. I need to craft notes, books and make sermon or i can buy it from anyone?