Graveyard optimization, lanturn vs stone prayer station

[joshmail_1999]

So I figured out that stone columbriums are very efficient in the top areas where there is an extra spaces for them, however which of the 2x2 is best? Is there a difference between the lanturns and the stone prayer station? Also which is better cobblestone path or yard, they seem to be equal.

[Armstrong]

There are 8 best spots for columbriums.
Lantern is better and cheaper.

[joshmail_1999]

Actually there are 7 best spots there is a lone one where you can wedge one it at the top

[silver]

Lantern and Stone Prayer Station are effectively equal. I've heard rumors of stone prayer station occasionally dropping "stuff" the way confessionals do, but I've not seen it in practice.

Actually, if you use Marble (not stone) Columbaria, there are several places where it's more efficient (points wise) to put them instead of graves (yes, even 12 point graves). The 8x10 sections at the top left, for example - if you stick 4 marble columbaria (80 points) and 2 rotated marble flagstones (6 points) there, that's 86 points. But because it's only 8x10, you can still only put 6 graves in there - 76 points. Even with the decorations between them, the columbaria outscore 86 to 82.
The 7x10 sections (one on each side of the map) are much clearer because there's room for decoration in between. You can get 43 points (2 columnbaria and a flastone) on one side, or get 36 points (3 graves) from that side.

In my reference cheat sheet here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Uqx982FER4P0ZlCTxIs1MgTLNtHZ6iffrdvk_qTo0Rk/edit?usp=sharing

On the 'graveyard maximization' tab I list the best use of each section (assuming all 12 point bodies and marble columbaria), and at the bottom under 'rejected designs' I show how the other possible layouts score less.

[Blue]

Awesome job with the reference doc, Silver, but I believe you have miscalculated your 8×10 patch. If you place 2 Marble columbariums at the top, you can still fit 4 bodies, a flag stone, and a lamp at the bottom, maxing out at 95. Hope that helps. :)

[xenxander]

The max points in the graveyard is 1300. I did some calculations.

Well, it's 1275 for all graves and decorations inside, but the last teir fence gives you 20, and the statue of the bishop gives you another 5.

[Armstrong]

Originally posted by silver:

The 8x10 sections at the top left, for example - if you stick 4 marble columbaria (80 points) and 2 rotated marble flagstones (6 points) there, that's 86 points. But because it's only 8x10, you can still only put 6 graves in there - 76 points. Even with the decorations between them, the columbaria outscore 86 to 82.

This cheat sheet is not 100% righ,t and max graveyard rating is 1258.

For example:
8x10 section

C C - 40
G G - 24
G G - 24
Lantern - 4
Flagstone - 3
Total: 95

There is other not right combinations.

[silver]

I made a couple corrections using hybrid grave/columbaria designs, thanks!
But I'm still only at 1177 (1202 with the 25 bonus). If you have any further suggestions, please let me know!

[Armstrong]

Originally posted by silver:

I made a couple corrections using hybrid grave/columbaria designs, thanks!
But I'm still only at 1177 (1202 with the 25 bonus). If you have any further suggestions, please let me know!

7x10
C G
G G
G C

15x6 - 10 graves

[silver]

Ah, I assumed I wanted access to all the graves in case I need to make repairs, which is why I only have 8 in the 15x6. Good points, though! Will correct now.

[xenxander]

Originally posted by silver:

I made a couple corrections using hybrid grave/columbaria designs, thanks!
But I'm still only at 1177 (1202 with the 25 bonus). If you have any further suggestions, please let me know!

Bury only 12 white skull bodies.

You have to await a body that is one of the four following conditions:
5 White, 2 Red
5 White, 3 Red
5 White, 4 Red

Ideally, you'll want 5 white, 4 red to start.

If you start with 5 white, 4 red, here's what you do (in ALMOST any order)
Use glue (6 white, 4 red)
Use lye solution ( 7 white, 5 red)
Use silver injection (8 white, 4 red)
Use gold injection (10 white, 2 red)
Remove fat and blood (12 white)



If you start with 5 white, 3 red, you can remove the skull initially.
If you start with 5 white, 2 red, you can use a dark injection, to give it 5 white, 4 red


If you start with 5 red skulls, you're only hope is the body is 6 white, 5 red, and you can remove an organ, to knock yourself down to 5 white, and 2, 3, or 4 red.

[GrandTickler]

Originally posted by joshmail_1999:

So I figured out that stone columbriums are very efficient in the top areas where there is an extra spaces for them, however which of the 2x2 is best? Is there a difference between the lanturns and the stone prayer station? Also which is better cobblestone path or yard, they seem to be equal.

no difference between the stone prayer station or lantern, the lanterns make it look pretty at night though ;P

Originally posted by xenxander:

If you start with 5 red skulls, you're only hope is the body is 6 white, 5 red, and you can remove an organ, to knock yourself down to 5 white, and 2, 3, or 4 red.

5-5 works too, even 6-5, with the cultist perk i see organs often remove only 2 red. without touching white.

[silver]

xenxander - since you replied to me and not the OP, I'm confused, because I was already counting 12 points for grave and already had instructions on the cheat sheet for making them.

[Armstrong]

Originally posted by silver:

xenxander - since you replied to me and not the OP, I'm confused, because I was already counting 12 points for grave and already had instructions on the cheat sheet for making them.

What about bodies for Marble Columbariums, you need 96 bodies to make 8 of them.

[silver]

In your quest to find 84 bodies that can be made into 12-white, you will go through hundreds of reject bodies and fund both your fertilizer and columbaria issues easily.

[Armstrong]

Originally posted by silver:

In your quest to find 84 bodies that can be made into 12-white, you will go through hundreds of reject bodies and fund both your fertilizer and columbaria issues easily.

I mean by adding this information to the sheet, so people would know how much they need to make them.