What do i do with bronze stories?

[Nanako]

i've got zombies at random desks churning out lots of stories, in hope of the occasional good one. Of course i get mostly bronze star stories, what do i do with these? They're never going to make a powerful sermon. can i sell them, or turn them into anything sellable?

[Tankfriend]

You can turn them into chapters, and chapters into books.

[Qu Rahn]

You can use notes/chapters for science points, or you can try to make silver chapters out of them (using 1/2 bronze notes per iteration), if it fails to produce the better quality items, just turn them into science points.

[Psyringe]

You can turn them into books, which gives you blue points for crafting them, and then science for reading them at the study table. But I don't think it's particularly useful - you can get enough science points for the entire game by just studying clean paper, and there are more useful ways of getting blue points.

If you hope for a gold book or prayer, you can actually get that even from bronze stories if you have an Inspiration prayer running - but the chance is small. You'll have a 10-20% chance (IIRC) to "upgrade" any writing that you create, and you need that chance to strike twice during the multi-step creation of the product. Since there isn't much else you can use the stories for, I did that until I had all the prayers at gold level, and then I relocated the zombie.

[EVIL Shenanigans]

A bit spoiler-ey, but...

Writing crafts (Stories -> Notes -> Chapters -> Sermons) have a default negative outcome.
Unlocking two perks (Writer / Playwright) in the Writing tech-tree evens this out.
Activating a particular effect (Inspiration) swings this outcome to a positive result.

Thusly, one can relatively easily turn bronze stories into gold sermons.

Edit; Also, as others have said, you can just process them for the blue techpoints, and utilize them towards Science, but I've found this somewhat wasteful, as Stories are relatively valuable, though made considerably less-so thanks to the zombies and random text generators.

[Nanako]

what are science points good for though?

Sure they're used at the study desk, but i'm always limited by faith, and i can get science points basically infinitely by just decomposing sheets of blank paper

[EVIL Shenanigans]

Originally posted by Nanako =^.^=:

what are science points good for though? Sure they're used at the study desk...

Ya got it ...point being, you get more Science the more you process the paper. And the higher quality of the notes / chapter / book, the more science that's awarded.

[Nanako]

right but what do i do with more science, how is that useful?

i can produce paper near endlessly and get all the science i want from it

[Dosbilliam, Boring but Practical]

One thing everyone's not mentioning is that you can also sell the books to the Astrologer, which is why I've got a stockpile of 18 Silver Hardcovers sitting around. :P

[EVIL Shenanigans]

Originally posted by Nanako =^.^=:

right but what do i do with more science, how is that useful?

It's just used for studying, and yes, you currently have a bottleneck on Faith, but it might not always be such. In addition, as you progress through the game, more advanced items will grant more techpoints but also have higher requirements in Faith and Science, thus you will undoubtedly require more Science - much more if you have a desire to study 'all the things'.

You can certainly accomplish this with just Clean Paper, likely requiring the most time and yielding the least results ...if you have excess Faith, I might suggest using a Lens, or if you have excess Story's, I'd suggest processing the Clean Paper into Chapters. For more info, you're certainly welcome to check out the wiki[graveyardkeeper.gamepedia.com].

Originally posted by Dosbilliam, 200% Ultra-Bitter:

One thing everyone's not mentioning is that you can also sell the books to the Astrologer, which is why I've got a stockpile of 18 Silver Hardcovers sitting around. :P

You can sell silver-and-gold-quality Books to the Astrologer, but you pointedly cannot sell copper-quality Books, which OP was (mistakenly) under the impression his copper-quality Stories would yield.

[Dosbilliam, Boring but Practical]

Originally posted by EVIL Shenanigans:

Originally posted by Nanako =^.^=:

right but what do i do with more science, how is that useful?

It's just used for studying, and yes, you currently have a bottleneck on Faith, but it might not always be such. In addition, as you progress through the game, more advanced items will grant more techpoints but also have higher requirements in Faith and Science, thus you will undoubtedly require more Science - much more if you have a desire to study 'all the things'.

You can certainly accomplish this with just Clean Paper, likely requiring the most time and yielding the least results ...if you have excess Faith, I might suggest using a Lens, or if you have excess Story's, I'd suggest processing the Clean Paper into Chapters. For more info, you're certainly welcome to check out the wiki[graveyardkeeper.gamepedia.com].

I don't know, if you can get a decent amount of Quality Fertilizer II, you can harvest enough Wheat to make mass Paper production not that difficult, with the White Paint being the only problem, and if you head up to the Coal vein you'll have more Limestone than you know what to do with.

Originally posted by Dosbilliam, 200% Ultra-Bitter:

One thing everyone's not mentioning is that you can also sell the books to the Astrologer, which is why I've got a stockpile of 18 Silver Hardcovers sitting around. :P

You can sell silver-and-gold-quality Books to the Astrologer, but you pointedly cannot sell copper-quality Books, which OP was (mistakenly) under the impression his copper-quality Stories would yield.

I'd say that's dumb, but considering all the stuff you can't sell (Koukol doesn't buy anything at all, the Bishop doesn't buy Tier 1 Incense) or buy (getting Packaged Meat from Horadric after selling it to him would make Cooking much easier) there's quite a list of dumb transaction limitations.

[Psyringe]

Originally posted by Dosbilliam, 200% Ultra-Bitter:

I don't know, if you can get a decent amount of Quality Fertilizer II, you can harvest enough Wheat to make mass Paper production not that difficult, with the White Paint being the only problem, and if you head up to the Coal vein you'll have more Limestone than you know what to do with.

Alternatively, you can get white powder by grinding bones, which you can remove out of any corpse without affecting its skull count at all.

[Dosbilliam, Boring but Practical]

Originally posted by Psyringe:

Originally posted by Dosbilliam, 200% Ultra-Bitter:

I don't know, if you can get a decent amount of Quality Fertilizer II, you can harvest enough Wheat to make mass Paper production not that difficult, with the White Paint being the only problem, and if you head up to the Coal vein you'll have more Limestone than you know what to do with.

Alternatively, you can get white powder by grinding bones, which you can remove out of any corpse without affecting its skull count at all.

Forgot about that since I usually ignore bones, but yeah, mass-producing paper is really easy.

[GlassDeviant]

Every time I play, I wait until I have the relevant techs/abilities, have activated a Prayer for Imagination, then convert all of my Stories to Notes and then Notes to Chapters. There are ways to cause these to upgrade to silver or gold during the conversion processes which involve said abilities and prayer. There are ways to avoid consuming the lower quality ones in the early game as you will need a few to make prayers that you need, but in general (in my subjective opinion of course) it is best to hold onto them until you can make best use of them.

If you manage to have chapters of bronze quality after this process, you can simply use them to decompose in the Study Table for Science Points (which are not blue tech points, to be clear).