good ways to get red points?

[Sikri]

i am ridiculously lacking when it comes to red points, getting the last couple techs in the building and theology trees and i need something like 700

[Tankfriend]

Lots and lots of crafting.
Analyzing your tools also gives you a lot of red points iirc.

[EVIL Shenanigans]

Originally posted by Tankfriend:

Analyzing your tools also gives you a lot of red points iirc.

*Studying ...but yeah, it's not just about them blues - if you have any excess Faith and are short on a specific techpoint, just study up any items you have stockpiled that indicate the desired color, and remember to first activate the effect Circumspect beforehand to get a couple bonus blue techpoints while your at it.

Natural products, such and plants and fish, generally provide green techpoints, while most equipment and building materials provide red techpoints; 'Carved wood' (copper-quality is fine), 'Jointing', and 'Wooden beam' are a good source for a quick 300 rtp.

[Fridge Lord]

Pretty much what everybody said. If you're at the end of the tech tree, start studying your tools and high level craftables. The higher the tech level of the item, the more red points. Damask sword yields probably the most.

[Aristos]

buy blueberry pie from the tavern and eat it before analysing everthing. It doubles the output

[Dosbilliam, Boring but Practical]

Originally posted by Fridge Lord:

Pretty much what everybody said. If you're at the end of the tech tree, start studying your tools and high level craftables. The higher the tech level of the item, the more red points. Damask sword yields probably the most.

There's also just a normal Sword, which apparently gets you 150 Red XP for 10 Faith/Science, so it's a decent tradeoff. There's also mass-producing firewood and other wood-related items, but yay for limited Stamina. >_>

[oni1313]

Originally posted by Aristos:

buy blueberry pie from the tavern and eat it before analysing everthing. It doubles the output

Better!
Bake your own cake (ask Dig between twn and lighthouse he gives you a quest).
With Cake you get blue poins, more blue points. you get so many red points when you finde the coalmine and start digging and when you start smelting iron or create vases.

[Tenebrais]

The game really does require you to get so many more red points than anything else, and I think it's based on the assumption that you're not going to offload all your intermediate crafting onto zombies ASAP. Because the main source of red points is all those "make forty wooden billets" jobs that I just get zombies to do.

But yeah analyse your tools/carved stone/jointing/complex parts etc. while under the influence of cake.

[Qu Rahn]

1. Buy books at the Astrologer every moon day. If you have zombies, put them at Random Text Generators for extra books every now and then.

2. Study equipment (axes, swords, armors, etc.) and high tech crafts (such as complex gears, the last wood carving technology, etc.)

3. If you have a decent income of stones, you can craft a lot of R.I.P. gravestones. Those give red and blue points, only cost 3 normal stones, and are a very good way to accumulate those points early in the game.


Unrelated to red points:

4. IIRC cake bonus doesn't affect red points. It just gives you +1 blue point for any research you do. So a 50 blue points research turns into 51 blue points, and a 5 red points research becomes 5 red and 1 blue.

5. For green points, using a steel shovel on the clay holes will net you 1 point per 'shoving'.

[GlassDeviant]

I've never thought of accumulating red points as a problem. Occasionally at the very beginning of the game I have to juggle techs but if you are selective you will almost always have plenty of red and green when you really need it. And at end game I am sitting on 10k red, 12k green and 4.4k blue after learning all of the techs.

Those books from Astrologer, though, they are a problem unless you already have all the achievements when you accumulate 3000 of each colour tech points. I've never needed them anyway, not even for blue points.

Cake bonus gives you a percentage bonus to blue points, and only blue points. It can be more than +1 if the studied item normally gives you quite a lot of blue points.

As Qu Rahn said, Gravestone II, the one with R.I.P. carved into it, gives good points all around. Consider making grave marker/fence sets of Gravestone II and Stone Grave Fence II when you're in the early-mid stage and making 0r6w corpses is fairly easy, which will get you past the early graveyard milestones for Episcop/church upgrades.

When queueing large numbers of items on a machine, drag a large stack of food to one of the 4 hotkey squares at the bottom of the screen so you can eat while operating a machine. You can go from recently slept to completely exhausted non-stop, then keep going and ignore the exhaustion buff.

As a conceptual exercise (just now) I made 20 iron chisels and stuffed them in a trunk, then grabbed 2 stacks of gold star red wine and made a hotkey. You can make polished stone or marble, they give the same points (2r1g1b), but I recommend marble since you will use them while populating your graveyard with 12-point graves. I polished 215 stone/marble pieces for a total of 430 red, 215 green and 215 blue tech points. Obviously you won't ever use that many, but you don't have to go that far either, it was just a conceptual test. Sometimes a little grind saves you more in the long run.

Don't forget that you get points from completed oven, brewing stand, wine barrel and distillery jobs.