Recommended Level/Equipment for Necrohol of Nabudis ???

[Kyle G]

I just really just want that bravery and faith. Keep dying in there though. Place is intense.

[Shan]

Originally posted by Hinnyuu:

Went there with lvl 20s today, just after Eruyt Village. It was a slog, and I gave up when Helvinek spawned. Need some more gear not to get oneshot left and right, first.

I thought you couldn't access Necrohol until after the events at Bur-Omisace? Could be wrong though, I'm not exactly an expert on the game myself.

[DigginTiger]

Blizzarga/aeroga are you friends here and your black mage will shine as a star in the night if you have enough tanking abiliies. Everytime i get there all eyes are on penelo lol

because yes i agree with Evilsod, the worst thing/ennemy here are the bakanamies.
with descent defense (i would say around 35 physical def or more+ buffs) and these 2 spells at around lvl 40/50 you should be ok but make your way cautiously through the necrohol and be carefull with float when it wears off and have a counter to "disable" if possible (esuna works in that matter but black belts should be your go to.
I love the music of that place !!!

[DigginTiger]

Originally posted by Shan:

Originally posted by Hinnyuu:

Went there with lvl 20s today, just after Eruyt Village. It was a slog, and I gave up when Helvinek spawned. Need some more gear not to get oneshot left and right, first.

I thought you couldn't access Necrohol until after the events at Bur-Omisace? Could be wrong though, I'm not exactly an expert on the game myself.

Nope, as hinnyuu said, right after the eruyt village and the events of the henne mines.
So you can indeed go there at pretty low level.

[DigginTiger]

Originally posted by (｡◕‿◕｡):

One black mage @ level 40 can easily take it. Everything there is hella weak to firaga and if you got your golden amulet early you should gain mp everytime you nuke a group. Most of the loot's for a black mage anyway. Just watch out for Oversouls, they have Annul.

If your main is for some reason a melee class back out to title and start a new game.

Please tell me which ennemies of these area are weak to firaga.

[KarmaTheAlligator]

Originally posted by roro4066:

Originally posted by Shan:

I thought you couldn't access Necrohol until after the events at Bur-Omisace? Could be wrong though, I'm not exactly an expert on the game myself.

Nope, as hinnyuu said, right after the eruyt village and the events of the henne mines.
So you can indeed go there at pretty low level.

You can actually get there right after getting back from Raithwall.

[DigginTiger]

Originally posted by KarmaTheAlligator:

Originally posted by roro4066:

Nope, as hinnyuu said, right after the eruyt village and the events of the henne mines.
So you can indeed go there at pretty low level.

You can actually get there right after getting back from Raithwall.

yes you're right, even earlier... i was somehow thinking of the feywood

[SUA MÃE CORTA CANA NA VOADORA]

Just took a nice stroll to Nabudis to get Bravery, Faith and Protectga. Not even Helvinek was a problem.

Life is good :)

[Evilsod]

Originally posted by roro4066:

Originally posted by (｡◕‿◕｡):

One black mage @ level 40 can easily take it. Everything there is hella weak to firaga and if you got your golden amulet early you should gain mp everytime you nuke a group. Most of the loot's for a black mage anyway. Just watch out for Oversouls, they have Annul.

If your main is for some reason a melee class back out to title and start a new game.

Please tell me which ennemies of these area are weak to firaga.

I think he's implying that Firaga deals more damage than Blizzara even if your target is weak to Ice... at least I presume thats it cos nothing there is weak to Fire.

[Hinnyuu]

Originally posted by Evilsod:

I think he's implying that Firaga deals more damage than Blizzara even if your target is weak to Ice... at least I presume thats it cos nothing there is weak to Fire.

It depends. In terms of raw power, Blizzara against cold-weak should do more than Firaga - but that's not accounting for enemy MDEF. Much like with weapons, the way MDEF works into the formula means scaling isn't linear, and higher-power spells are favored:

[POW x RANDOM(1~1.125) - MDEF] x [2 + MAG x (Lv+MAG)/256)]

Weaknesses, potency equipment, weather, etc. all factor in multiplicatively, but since MDEF is subtracted directly it's entirely possible to outdamage lower tier spells against weak targets with a higher-tier, non-weakness spell. Or not. It all depends on the enemy MDEF:


[POWweak x RANDOM(1~1.125) - MDEF] x 2 > [POWstrong x RANDOM(1~1.125) - MDEF]

Firaga is power 120, Blizzara is 70. Which means that on average, Blizzara will do more than Firaga on an ice-weak target IF that target's MDEF is 21.0625 or less.

To give some idea what we're dealing with, a Baknamy in Nabreus/Nabudis will have 32-34 MDEF (depending on level) - meaning that Firaga will, indeed, deal more damage even though they are weak to ice.

Potency is also a factor, of course, but it should be easy to have both ice and fire potency at that point, making it a moot point. If you factor Oil into it, fire is an even clearer winner - though of course it's probably not worth wasting your time oiling up every little thing.

EDIT: it's worth noting, perhaps, that healing spells do not factor in MDEF - even when used offensively. Cura/ga/ja are often a very good choice against undead.

[Sacred Myths]

Originally posted by Cellweiriwr:

Around 55 with end tier gear. Monsters are pretty tough there.

55? lmfaoo noob

[Sacred Myths]

Originally posted by Multi-Urso:

Just took a nice stroll to Nabudis to get Bravery, Faith and Protectga. Not even Helvinek was a problem.

Life is good :)

weird i got protectga from somewhere else

[SUA MÃE CORTA CANA NA VOADORA]

Originally posted by Sacred Myths:

Originally posted by Multi-Urso:

Just took a nice stroll to Nabudis to get Bravery, Faith and Protectga. Not even Helvinek was a problem.

Life is good :)

weird i got protectga from somewhere else

Where did you get it? It is only found in the Necrohol of Nabudis (Cloister of Distant Song).

[Hinnyuu]

Originally posted by Sacred Myths:

weird i got protectga from somewhere else

Unless you're referring to the original non-Zodiac version, the only source of the Protectga spell, to my knowledge, is the chest in Nabudis.

[Kyle G]

Originally posted by Sacred Myths:

Originally posted by Multi-Urso:

Just took a nice stroll to Nabudis to get Bravery, Faith and Protectga. Not even Helvinek was a problem.

Life is good :)

weird i got protectga from somewhere else

Tell me...your secret...

[3000%RedPill]

Originally posted by Velesianus:

One black mage @ level 40 can easily take it. Everything there is hella weak to firaga and if you got your golden amulet early you should gain mp everytime you nuke a group. Most of the loot's for a black mage anyway. Just watch out for Oversouls, they have Annul.

If your main is for some reason a melee class back out to title and start a new game.

XD