Decent headphones that actually fix trash sound in this game?

[Adeptus Lebowski]

Are there any sound setups you guys have that actually give true directional sound in this game?

I use Dolby Atmos app and have a decent wireless headset but not top line though. In most other games i hear things with amazing clarity, especially in high production games like Red Dead 2 etc.

In this game it is mainly the footsteps that i struggle with. I can sometimes hear them but the distance is not accurate and the direction feels off. When there are multiple footsteps etc then forget it lol.

I've been told that using a decent headset with a 3.5mm jack into a decent soundcard is best but then others say that you only get true surround and best overall quality from USB headsets. Or is the sound in this game simply what it is and we are stuck with it?

Thanks

[aplecake]

Not using any EQ. At least no EQ Changes between my headsets. The Tygr is "out of the box" besides the modmic.

Your profile says that you have a "Asus Xonar AE 7.1-Channel Gaming Audio Card". Arent u using it anymore? It should have a dedicated driver for such settings and as a dedicated soundcard it should be potent enough for the MMX 300. it could conflict with the audio from hunt if it is processing the output further (for example for 7.1 sound).

I can directly compare the Tygr against a pricey razer kraken and some midrange logitech headsets. Its a day and night difference for me.

[Adeptus Lebowski]

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Your profile says that you have a "Asus Xonar AE 7.1-Channel Gaming Audio Card". Arent u using it anymore? It should have a dedicated driver for such settings and as a dedicated soundcard it should be potent enough for the MMX 300. it could conflict with the audio from hunt if it is processing the output further (for example for 7.1 sound).

I am trying the onbaord as i have a good mobo and wanted to see if it makes a difference but sounds the same.

@Abradolf I saw your screenshot and the only thing i have similar to that is the driver app called Xonar which is my soundcard. I turned all the EQ and boost stuff off but it doesn't have any amp mode. Sonic Studio however does, it lets me choose extreme which amps up everything so i have the same issue but everything is louder haha

[El Tromp Wins]

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it could conflict with the audio from hunt if it is processing the output further (for example for 7.1 sound).

No because stereo headphones has only one jack. So it goes on the stereo hole in the MB.

[aplecake]

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it could conflict with the audio from hunt if it is processing the output further (for example for 7.1 sound).

No because stereo headphjones has only one jack. So it goes on the stereo hole in the MB.

yes but maybe its still set for 7.1 use or has some sound settings which are hurting with the stereo...?

[Adeptus Lebowski]

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İlk olarak aplecake tarafından gönderildi:

it could conflict with the audio from hunt if it is processing the output further (for example for 7.1 sound).

No because stereo headphjones has only one jack. So it goes on the stereo hole in the MB.

i put it in line in and that works fine

[El Tromp Wins]

İlk olarak Lebowski Pro-Dude tarafından gönderildi:

I turned all the EQ and boost off

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İlk olarak Lebowski Pro-Dude tarafından gönderildi:

and boost off

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"boost".

My dude... I know that you are not joking, but sometimes it looks like xD

You see the screenshot I uploaded here that I told you ?

What is that "boost" thing that are you talking about, maybe some kind of AMPLIFIER.. ¿?¿?.

Please xd, I'm trying to help you. Check that mobo details/specs, look for that amplifier/boost mode, intall the lastest sound driver (with setting menu, like MY SCREENSHOT but obviously for your Asus mobo. Go to the asus portal, etc, etc) and don't use EQ.

Kind of simple.

[Adeptus Lebowski]

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İlk olarak Lebowski Pro-Dude tarafından gönderildi:

I turned all the EQ and boost off

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İlk olarak Lebowski Pro-Dude tarafından gönderildi:

and boost off

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"boost".

My dude... I know that you are not joking, but sometimes it looks like xD

You see the screenshot I uploaded here that I told you ?

What is that "boost" thing that are you talking about, maybe some kind of AMPLIFIER.... ¿?¿?. Please xd, I'm trying to help you.

no it says boost treble, boost bass etc. This doesn't help fix my issue in that some things are too loud and ambience etc i can barely hear. There is no balance as have said too many times now.

Are you saying i should mess with treble, bass, compressor/smart volume, voice clarity, reverb and surround volume bars? These are the only things i can change other than using the EQ presets.

[Anderaz]

İlk olarak Pat Fenis tarafından gönderildi:

Use good quality stereo headphones from any of the major quality headphone manufacturers, it'll be fine.

Gaming headsets are mostly overpriced plastic ♥♥♥♥♥.

Hunt's audio was recorded, apparently, according to their info using a binaural microphone, that's two mics placed in a dummy human head.

They go on to say that their spatialization solution supports 5.1 and 7.1.

You can't hear information that isn't recorded at the start though so these surround solutions are simulated in some way, that, coupled with all kinds of motherboard/♥♥♥♥♥♥ sound card simulations of surround are probably what mess it up for a lot of people.

Check your soundcard does Left/Right properly, checked you haven't got them panned wrong. Use stereo cans.

I think what they mean with "it supports 5.1 and 7.1" is, that these headphones in principal work, it's not a problem to connect and use them.. the formulation is obviously very easy to misunderstand, not to say a lie, since there is just not more than stereo and any 5.1 7.1 virtualization is just artificial, actually messing up the sound.

Some people say 5.1 and so on "sounds nicer" to them.. really, just facepalm

[Con.RoXP]

İlk olarak XIII tarafından gönderildi:

Well, then Im sorry to break it to you, but youre still hearing stereo. You just run stereo through a bunch of trash and play it from a terrible gaming headset.

I mean have fun with that if you convinced yourself that that horror show is fine, but dont tell other peoples what is "good sound", or what a headphone is supposed to do.

Like seriously, after running sound through so much stuff, the end result is pretty much random. Even if you can still somewhat hear direction.

Good thing you came around and told me that what I actually hear for myself with my own ears is wrong just because. Gee what would I have done otherwise.

I can't just "somewhat" hear direction. I can hear everything exactly where it is, in all games without exception. I've tried turning off my surround app and play Hunt without it and I felt completely blind. Not only that but like I said in my 1st post, it's jarring how uncomfortable stereo is in its attempt to mimic surround audio. Oh something's on your left? Here let me blast your left ear while on your right it's dead silent.
Stereo is dead for me after being used to so many years of surround, even in this virtualized form.

Also it's neither a horror show, nor random. This is why I said that an equalizer is very important for me. No human on this planet hears things the same way. Some hear certain frequencies better than others. With the equalizer I've tuned everything perfectly for my ears and my headset. Audio which is customized for my ears is much clearer for me than the generic default setting and it makes sense.

You act like you can tell me what I hear. If it was indeed horrible then why would I use it? And the best part is that I can just turn it off real quick and be immediately reminded why I like it and need it so much.

Generally speaking I love it when the Hunt forums talk about audio. People are so willing to overexaggerate about spending hundreds of euros or dollars or whatever for studio headsets and completely ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on the "gaming" ones only to then join a match and get destroyed by people like Rachta Z who only wear a simple HyperX headset.

[El Tromp Wins]

İlk olarak Lebowski Pro-Dude tarafından gönderildi:

Are you saying i should mess with treble, bass, compressor/smart volume, voice clarity, reverb and surround volume bars? These are the only things i can change other than using the EQ presets.

Oh my god.. Check this please: https://i.imgur.com/5CykILq.jpg

I'm telling that go to your mobo specifications and look for an amplifier mode. Your mobo brand can call it otherway, biut it has be the same thing.

Maybe thecompressor / smart volume thing, or maybe other thing. Maybe a general "boost" of the sound volume, nothing related with EQ.

So go to the Asus mobo webpage and/or google about some kind of amplifier mode for your mobo.

AND, another thing about the sound of this game (or others); some sounds are louder or quieter than others. SO you are saying that some sounds you hear them lower or louder... and that can be absolutely normal.

I mean obviously there are sounds that are lowder than others, or quieter than others... If you "equalize" all the sound of this game to the same level, you will get a sh1ett.

[Adeptus Lebowski]

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İlk olarak Lebowski Pro-Dude tarafından gönderildi:

Are you saying i should mess with treble, bass, compressor/smart volume, voice clarity, reverb and surround volume bars? These are the only things i can change other than using the EQ presets.

Oh my god.. Check this please: https://i.imgur.com/5CykILq.jpg

I'm telling that go to your mobo specifications and look for an amplifier mode. Your mobo brand can call it otherway, biut it has be the same thing.

Maybe thecompressor / smart volume thing, or maybe other thing. Maybe a general "boost" of the sound volume, nothing related with EQ.

So go to the Asus mobo webpage and/or google about some kind of amplifier mode for your mobo.

AND, another thing about the sound of this game (or others); some sounds are louder or quieter than others. SO you are saying that some sounds you hear them lower or louder... and that can be absolutely normal.

I mean obviously there are sounds that are lowder than others, or quieter than others... If you "equalize" all the sound of this game to the same level, you will get a sh1ett.

yeah the smart volume is a compressor and it maintains a constant volume for all sounds and having this on 100% fixes my issue actually. It's still hard to hear footstep and directional positioning when there is a lot of noise and fighting but maybe that is normal. It never used to be so distracting on my £60 headset with Dolby Atmos is all. I am a lot happier now that i'm back using the Xonar sound card and have Smart volume on in Sonic Studio. I might buy a decent 7.1 headset with actual built in speakers around the £200 mark just to see what both sides of this argument are like.

[Revalopod]

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I use Windows sonic, loudness equalisation and HyperX Cloud Revolver and I can tell direction quite easily. Distance is a bit harder to tell with loudness equalisation on but it really helps hearing footsteps especially crouched ones. Windows sonic I'm not sure what it does I've just had it turned on for ages

Holy ♥♥♥♥. Dude, youre getting a garbled, horrible mess out of your headphones. If you think thats fine, then you dont even know how anything is supposed to sound.

nice

[Evillo]

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I agree and disagree on some points,
2. dolby is useless and damaging in hunt, on games that actually support it it can give a great experience, same with THX[
3. on hunt you vunst disable any kind of virtualization, the mixer can actually be tuned to help you hear the footsteps even better (at least a little depending on the mixer and hw)
4. I also own a 7.1 headset and you can get a very precise location using them (expetion made from a area just behind you where you can't locate with the same precision as the rest); too bad that using them in hunt is king a of a waste because the game may support them but they are not implemented properly since the binaurad audio is supposed to be only stereo, I tried some games that can make full use of them and the sound become amazing

2. In theory dolby should work just fine, as long as Hunt supports 5.1/7.1 sound output and you set the game to that. Same for your "true surround" headset. Both sollutions utilize normal speaker sound, there shouldnt be any support necessary.

3. If you are really desperate, you can try that, but any modification of the sound has the potential to screw HRTF up. Thats why you should start without any changes.

4. Yeah Im gonna have to disagree hard on that one. For one those headsets tend to sound like garbage, even the expensive ones, cuz they use a bunch of tiny, cheap speakers (and its gaming headphones). And maybe you can get used to the weird speaker setup, but its not how realistic sourround sound woirks.
And HRTF is pretty much objectively the superior solution to "true surround", because it utilizes runtime differences. Its not even a question; if Hunts surround sound doesnt sound directional+precise to you, then likely because your headset is screwing something up or youre too used to this "fake" speaker setup that you dont get how surround sound is actually supposed to work.

for point 4 I have to admit that the sound is a bit off but the posithioning is good, because hunt can yes manage the speackers from all direction but the .1 wich would be the subwoofer is completly left out unlike for example bf5( did not try them on the others since I don't whant to plug in the 6 wires needed to make the headset work^^)

[Evillo]

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İlk olarak XIII tarafından gönderildi:

Well, then Im sorry to break it to you, but youre still hearing stereo. You just run stereo through a bunch of trash and play it from a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ gaming headset.

I mean have fun with that if you convinced yourself thats fine, but dont tell other peoples what is "good sound", or what a headphone is supposed to do.

What do you guys understand under gaming headset and studio headphones?
Gaming headset can go from 20€ to 300€ or more.

gaming headseat I cheaper that professional hi-fi headphones but they use the ranges of sound designed for the games, the hi-hi can work even better but in my opnion they can go too far from the intended game range making sound weird unless you are a pro at using a mixer of course and that's a thing were I'm a total a noob :D

[Adeptus Lebowski]

https://imgur.com/UN1E1zd

These are the settings i have settled on in Sonic Studio 3. I can hear all sounds because of smart volume and directional noice is pretty clear so i am happy, thanks for help everyone.