Lore Question About Grom the Paunch

[Kortanis]

Out of curiosity, for anybody who has deeper access to Warhammer Fantasy lore than I do i.e. I tried looking it up on the wiki with no success, is it indicated anywhere how much Grom actually weighs?

[RED /(Weber)\]

His weight: Heavy.

[Kortanis]

Originally posted by RED Floyd /(Weber)\:

His weight: Heavy.

Yes thank you Captain Obvious. Unless you have an actual accurate number to assign to that observation, please go away.

[Arthur two sheds Jackson]

thats too personal of a question it would be rude to ask about his weight if you want to keep your head between your shoulders of course

[Father Ribs]

There probably isn't a good lore answer, since GW doubles the mass of heroes every edition of their games. Case in point: Ghazghkull Thraka.

[peremptor]

Two Yokozunas... around there.

[Crowkeeper]

Originally posted by Kortanis:

Originally posted by RED Floyd /(Weber)\:

His weight: Heavy.

Yes thank you Captain Obvious. Unless you have an actual accurate number to assign to that observation, please go away.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pr8TdsYpszQ

[burningmime]

One of his lines is "big as an orc". Although really it should be "big as a Texan riding a scootypuff around Wal-Mart"

[Danny Z. Ninja]

Crushing.

[Hieronymous]

327 pounds. Divide by 2.2 and subtract freedom if you need it metric.

[Grimmrog_SIG]

by mass probably 4x that of a goblin, on the other side, constantly having to fart he might be lighter by all that gasses than we thought. Given he was nto as big as an orc, but fat he might hae the weight of one.

https://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Grom_the_Paunch

here in total war hes MUCH larger even past an ork, which is contrary to the old lore. hes probably like a troll by size and weight. So I would guess hes like 2x or 2.5x an orcs weight in TWWH2.


the average orkboy is 2m (thats lorewise) (they grow more when they get stronger and more successfull, but they are mostly musscles. so the basic reference we would have is an around 2m human with strong muscles. so looking at the strongest man and how big they are and which of them are mostly muscles and elss fat (some are actually quite fattih too) one could estimate an ork mucle human for around 180-200kg for 2m in size.

so the oldschoold warhammer grm might be 200kg. and the TWWH2 one probably 500kg given hes 2,5x an ork.

[Kortanis]

Originally posted by Grimmrog_SIG:

by mass probably 4x that of a goblin, on the other side, constantly having to fart he might be lighter by all that gasses than we thought. Given he was nto as big as an orc, but fat he might hae the weight of one.

https://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Grom_the_Paunch

here in total war hes MUCH larger even past an ork, which is contrary to the old lore. hes probably like a troll by size and weight. So I would guess hes like 2x or 2.5x an orcs weight in TWWH2.


the average orkboy is 2m (thats lorewise) (they grow more when they get stronger and more successfull, but they are mostly musscles. so the basic reference we would have is an around 2m human with strong muscles. so looking at the strongest man and how big they are and which of them are mostly muscles and elss fat (some are actually quite fattih too) one could estimate an ork mucle human for around 180-200kg for 2m in size.

so the oldschoold warhammer grm might be 200kg. and the TWWH2 one probably 500kg given hes 2,5x an ork.

Thanks! This whole thing stemmed from when I was re-watching a lore video on Grimgor stating that he's 4m tall and 500kg which got me thinking about how big Grom might be.

[Kortanis]

Originally posted by Hieronymous:

327 pounds. Divide by 2.2 and subtract freedom if you need it metric.

Or I could just go to Google and put in "convert pounds to kilos" :P

[PuttBlug]

Originally posted by Kortanis:

Originally posted by RED Floyd /(Weber)\:

His weight: Heavy.

Yes thank you Captain Obvious. Unless you have an actual accurate number to assign to that observation, please go away.

Heavy is an accurate observation. Grom is heavy, you should pick his answer as the best, it condenses all the critical info that you need to answer your question.

[brownacs]

Originally posted by Kortanis:

Thanks! This whole thing stemmed from when I was re-watching a lore video on Grimgor stating that he's 4m tall and 500kg which got me thinking about how big Grom might be.

Not to derail but is that official? 4 metres tall and 500 kilograms would be kinda skinny. A silverback gorilla's maximum standing height's roughly 6 foot (1.8 metres) and they can weigh up to 270 kilos. I've always thought they'd be your closest comparison for a real life Warhammer Orc.
Plus mass doesn't increase linearly with respect to length/height. For example a 6 metre long saltwater crocodile weighs double what a 5 metre long one does, not the 20% increase you'd 'logically' expect. You can't just double the weight of someone who's 2 metres tall. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square%E2%80%93cube_law
I think you'd be looking at a weight of close to, and maybe even over, a tonne for 4 metres of exceptionally broad pure muscle (can't skimp on bone density either not to mention the 'backup' organs we're probably going to need) roughly the shape of a silverback gorilla.

[Father Ribs]

I'm with Brownacs on this; like geometry problems involving triangles, you need 2 of 3 (height, weight, BMI) to determine the third. Trying to figure weight with only height is going to get you nowhere. On a 6'2" person, you can have a variance of up to 150 lb depending how much you like cheese (like, literal cheese) and still be able to swing things).

If I was going to put a top range on weight, I'd go from the angle of what's the maximum load for that chariot. It's made of wood with some metal reinforcements, but with a solid wood axle and no suspension, there has to come a point where hitting a pebble will snap an axle and if your chariot is dead, you can't pull a Darius.

I assume his chariot may be modified (steel plate wrap or metal splinting on the axle) due to losing more than one mount (and probably losing an engineer each time as well), but it can't be too overengineered or you won't be able to pull it with wolves...they don't have ball bearings in Warhammer (except Dwarves, but table that).

I know physical laws are different in the Warhammer universe in many places (the only thing that can pick up half the weapons in the game are dreadnoughts...seriously, pick up and swing a real sword for five minutes), but I think the less-flashy things don't get the woo-woo treatment. Though to be honest, only Orks and orcs and oruks and whatever they're called next edition seems to be the only race that poops.

This has been your daily "I should eat lunch and hydrate before going on a babble" babble.