Total War: WARHAMMER II

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Wulfen Hyde Nov 28, 2020 @ 6:44am
Best monster faction?
So my favorite faction to play so far is the vampire counts due to varghulfs vargheists and crypt horrors, havnt played a total war game since rome 2 so the addition of large units and flying ones is amazing for me. I want to try out other factions with monsters its seeming like norsca is the best bet at the moment, any insight is appreciated.
Originally posted by Falaris:
I'm assuming you mean singe entity monsters here.

It sounds like you really want to play Imrik. his point is all about collecting big dragons. If you want lots of chunky monsters, Lizardmen are the greatest, and of the Lizardmen, Kroq-Gar is the best big dinosaur dude.(That is arguable, but his +20 armor bonus for them is pretty good.). They have the biggest monster in the game, the Dread Saurian.

If you like ranged, Vampire Coast is good - they have rotting prometheans and necrofex colossus, both of which are pretty cool. And good. (Count Noctilus is a good one for the starting Necrofex, giving you an impression of what's going on at least.).

Greenskins also has to be mentioned. With both Giants, lots of trolls, Arachnarox Spiders and the Idols - they've got nice and brutal options. Also, they're hilariously fun; a nice feature.

Tomb Kings has a lot of large constructs that are really nice. Tomb Scorpions, Titans, Sphinxes, Bone Giant - if you want big, epic stuff, they got it. Also, they have an unusual playstyle, for better and worse.

Dark Elves has a nice collection of monstrous units - dragons and war hydras, but also some lesser monsters. I don't think any of the lords stand out for their monster use though.

Norsca has a few things as well - including one of very few monstrous lords, Throgg. Mammoths, Wyrms, and Giants fill out the roster, along with a few unique monsters. I don't put them higher because it's a kind of niche DLC to get, but it's not bad either.

Chaos Warriors and Beastmen... yeah, they have a few. Can't really recommend them for campaign though.

Vampire Counts is one of my favourites, but they don't have that many actual big monsters, but they do have Varghulfs, of course. Arguably, they're all monsters, and lords on zombie dragons certainly count for something. I would say their lack of the big monsters makes them unsuitable, but still - it's the only faction that can truly make a monster mash:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T4ZjKKp_uY




Wood Elves - at the time of writing, they have a pretty bad campaign, but their Treemen, Great Eagles, Dragons, are pretty good, and Durthu is one of the other few monstrous lords. Come december 3rd, they should be a lot more interesting though.

Still, from what it sounds like you want, Imrik's your guy.

Factions to avoid:
Dwarves - big monsters? Nope, just lots of angry beards.
Empire - Steam tanks are not monsters.
Bretonia - Nope, a few flappy bird mounts doesn't make these monstrous.
Skaven. They have just one big monster, and it's not that good.
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wrought82 Nov 28, 2020 @ 6:52am 
best as in strongest? Dark elves or lizardmen i'd say, if you mean the really big guys.
Monstrous infantry likely crypt horrors id say beastmen or norsca
Harmania Nov 28, 2020 @ 7:07am 
If you want flying monsters; High Elves. If you want a roster of specialized giant units to handle every type of enemy, Tomb Kings. If you want a very endgame-y monster playstyle, Lizardmen.

If you want monster and monster hunting capacity in spades, Norsca.

For the "best-best", I'd probably say one of the factions that have access both to giant monsters with high survivability, but also plentiful healing, like Vampire Coast, Wood Elves, High Elves, and Lizardmen.
Last edited by Harmania; Nov 28, 2020 @ 7:08am
jonoliveira12 Nov 28, 2020 @ 7:17am 
After the next DLC, Throt's Clan Moulder will have the best Monster units in the game for any campaign, since the Laboratory actually allows you to give them extremely OP buffs.

Outside of Moulder, Tomb Kings and Lizardmen have the best Monster armies, with Tomb Kings having really good ones, and the LIzardmen having Full Monster armies very easily.
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Falaris Nov 28, 2020 @ 7:31am 
I'm assuming you mean singe entity monsters here.

It sounds like you really want to play Imrik. his point is all about collecting big dragons. If you want lots of chunky monsters, Lizardmen are the greatest, and of the Lizardmen, Kroq-Gar is the best big dinosaur dude.(That is arguable, but his +20 armor bonus for them is pretty good.). They have the biggest monster in the game, the Dread Saurian.

If you like ranged, Vampire Coast is good - they have rotting prometheans and necrofex colossus, both of which are pretty cool. And good. (Count Noctilus is a good one for the starting Necrofex, giving you an impression of what's going on at least.).

Greenskins also has to be mentioned. With both Giants, lots of trolls, Arachnarox Spiders and the Idols - they've got nice and brutal options. Also, they're hilariously fun; a nice feature.

Tomb Kings has a lot of large constructs that are really nice. Tomb Scorpions, Titans, Sphinxes, Bone Giant - if you want big, epic stuff, they got it. Also, they have an unusual playstyle, for better and worse.

Dark Elves has a nice collection of monstrous units - dragons and war hydras, but also some lesser monsters. I don't think any of the lords stand out for their monster use though.

Norsca has a few things as well - including one of very few monstrous lords, Throgg. Mammoths, Wyrms, and Giants fill out the roster, along with a few unique monsters. I don't put them higher because it's a kind of niche DLC to get, but it's not bad either.

Chaos Warriors and Beastmen... yeah, they have a few. Can't really recommend them for campaign though.

Vampire Counts is one of my favourites, but they don't have that many actual big monsters, but they do have Varghulfs, of course. Arguably, they're all monsters, and lords on zombie dragons certainly count for something. I would say their lack of the big monsters makes them unsuitable, but still - it's the only faction that can truly make a monster mash:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T4ZjKKp_uY




Wood Elves - at the time of writing, they have a pretty bad campaign, but their Treemen, Great Eagles, Dragons, are pretty good, and Durthu is one of the other few monstrous lords. Come december 3rd, they should be a lot more interesting though.

Still, from what it sounds like you want, Imrik's your guy.

Factions to avoid:
Dwarves - big monsters? Nope, just lots of angry beards.
Empire - Steam tanks are not monsters.
Bretonia - Nope, a few flappy bird mounts doesn't make these monstrous.
Skaven. They have just one big monster, and it's not that good.
Last edited by Falaris; Nov 28, 2020 @ 7:45am
Kyso4ek Nov 28, 2020 @ 7:33am 
Stone trolls are exceptionnaly good. So greenskins for me probably.
Wulfen Hyde Nov 28, 2020 @ 7:55am 
This has all been incredibly helpful thankyou everyone so much. Im still pretty new to the game and I never played the first one although I did buy it for mortal empires. Im getting norsca for sure and now I have to decide between tomb kings and wood elves, obviously tomb kings means vortex and mortal empires but im a little torn with apparent changes coming to wood elves dec 3?
Whats happening?
Tomb kings is gonna be my go to I imagine but if wood elves are being reworked idk
Last edited by Wulfen Hyde; Nov 28, 2020 @ 8:04am
Enelith Nov 28, 2020 @ 8:04am 
Obviously, you mean Dwarves.
Those are horrible & monstruous creatures... yes-yes.
Wulfen Hyde Nov 28, 2020 @ 8:07am 
Originally posted by Enelith:
Obviously, you mean Dwarves.
Those are horrible & monstruous creatures... yes-yes.
You made my night.
SpaceGoatMage Nov 28, 2020 @ 8:08am 
Ogres
Falaris Nov 28, 2020 @ 8:16am 
Originally posted by Wulfen Hyde:
This has all been incredibly helpful thankyou everyone so much. Im still pretty new to the game and I never played the first one although I did buy it for mortal empires. Im getting norsca for sure and now I have to decide between tomb kings and wood elves, obviously tomb kings means vortex and mortal empires but im a little torn with apparent changes coming to wood elves dec 3?
Whats happening?

Wood Elves - you get Sisters of Twilight, Troth the unclean with the DLC. If you also had WH1 and the wood elf DLC from there, you get Drycha as well, and both Orion and Durthu gets updated. It's pretty good value and the wood elves are a cool faction.

Tomb Kings are a fantastic addition to the game. I would say get it; it adds wonderful value to the game. But then, I have played this game so much I buy every DLC as a matter of course.
Wulfen Hyde Nov 28, 2020 @ 8:38am 
Picked up norsca and tomb kings, Definitely gonna have to try out wood elves in the future. Normally I dont sink so much money into dlc content when I first buy a game but..im loving the game too much and the variety of factions and units dousnt cease to amaze, way better than rome 2 lol.
ThunderWarrior Nov 28, 2020 @ 8:39am 
Dragon ogre shaggoth doomstack with kholek. Now that is epic
dont listen to the haters, the best monster faction is couronne. have you seen a minmaxed combat build louen?
Darth Wadewilson Nov 28, 2020 @ 11:49pm 
I like dark elf monsters the most. Hydra, kharybdiss, medusae and black dragon. Hydra is pretty much one of the most useful monsters in the game. And it's accessible pretty quickly for dark elves compared to most of the other similar monsters for other factions.
titanopteryx Nov 29, 2020 @ 12:38am 
The Norscan factions are the best monster factions. They can go on hunts around the world to beat a monster in a fight and then they can recruit it. Hunting for monsters to add to your ranks is a major feature of the Norscans.

Worthy of mention is there's a lord that can be unlocked in the research tree of greenskins that specializes in spiders.
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