what happened in the end times?

[Kagerou]

what happened to the elves ? what happened to malekith, tyrion, ararielle and teclis ?

[Greg]

You dare speak of this heresy

[A_COOC]

As with every faction they got ♥♥♥♥ on. During the siege of Naggarond, Malekith just gets up and leaves in a bid to take Ulthaun. Which goes well and sees him becoming the Phoenix King. Because it was revealed to truly become the Phoenix King he needed to die in the flames and be reborn as a part of Asuryan. So basically if he stayed in the flames a couple seconds more the whole Dark Elf thing wouldn't have happened. And its revealed every Phoenix King after Anerarion has been slowly driven insane after being crowned as a punishment because Malekith is the true phoenix king and Asuryan always intended him to be. So Alarielle marries him because of that, apparently. Tyrion draws the Widowmaker and becomes the avatar of Khaine. Who then gets killed. The Vortex gets unbinded which causes Ulthaun to sink and Malekith has every Elf teleported to Athel Loren where he rules them all as the Eternity King
(https://1d4chan.org/images/3/32/Not_Lelfing.jpg the Elves were just as happy about it as the fans )with his new Eternal Guard (The Black Guard and Phoenix Guard combined into a single force) They repel the forces of Chaos pretty handedly since it's just maurdering beastmen at Athel Loren at this point. Then ♥♥♥♥ hits the fan when Archaon wins and ends the world elsewhere after Mannfred betrays everyone. Malekith saves Alarielle from falling debris, but his lower torso is crushed. Then Tyrion shows up after being revived to hold hands with Allariele and cuck Malekith. https://1d4chan.org/images/a/a1/One_last_dance.png Also at some point after defeating Tyrion he outlaws worship of Khaine because he never liked it and because Khaine is technically dead.

[Cleftin Twain]

So... If Archaon ends the world.. Everyone dies, yeah?

[A_COOC]

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So... If Archaon ends the world.. Everyone dies, yeah?

Yeah, but then they realized they couldn't release another franchise if that happened. So what actually happened is that everyone's soul is still alive somewhere out and about and some people are coming back. Like Gotrek.

[Greg]

tyrion got the big angry

[Bruvuh Kel'Staan]

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So... If Archaon ends the world.. Everyone dies, yeah?

Essentially, Archaeon destroys the world and shatters it into the mortal realms, giving birth to the Age of Sigmar. Sigmar disappeared long ago and during end times was essentially speaking to the other gods and forming all kinds of alliances. When the world ended he created his own realm called Sigmaron (correct me if i'm wrong) and began truly working on a way to destroy chaos, using his own power to steal heroes throughout time and craft their souls into weapons of purity, he gives birth to the Stormcast eternals. He kept them a secret by sealing the realm-gates that were created to travel between the realms so that the chaos gods could not scry his hidden realm. Chaos takes over the mortal realms almost entirely, there's still pockets of resistance throughout but they're almost all wiped. Enter the Realmwar book series.

the lore goes from dark fantasy to high-dark fantasy and becomes even more absurd in its scope and reach. Epic battles all the time.

[Cleftin Twain]

That's crazy. And confusing af. Where are games 1/2 on that time line then since the vortex is still there?

[Maschinengewehr]

Age of Sigmar reads like the mental diarrhea that a stoner who hit the bong one too many times would scribble down.

[Voxrox]

Basically, what happened was the Empire was disrupted by inner struggles, and some Everchosen appeared north and attacked Kislev, as usual. And the Empire couldn'T respond, because they were busy with themselves...until

In Nuln, a man started to make things right, by rallying a huge army to his cause of a united Empire that the Elector Counts couldn't ignore. Once things were settled, this brave man marched his gigantig army towards Kislev.

There, the city was already under siege, and Praag, unknown to the Imperials, had already been sacked and razed. That's why the huge amount of cavalry vanguarded to Praag, only to find the city desatroyed. They took care of the stragglers and the rearguard of the Chaos-Armies, and just in time appeared on the battlefield before the city of Kislev.

The Chaos Army found itself suddenly surrounded by the main imperial host, the city defenders, and the cavalry in their back. Carnage ensued, the Chaos Filth and their "Ever"-Chosen were soundly defeated.

The hero that made all this possible was crowned Emperor, and is revered to this day as the saviour of mankind ... his name was Magnous the Pious.

Since that, no other End Times have happened on this scale. One dude once appeared and made a fuss, but some stupid Orc took care of him. That was about it.

Any more questions on this topic will be referred to the Witch Hunters...

[Super Cosmic Space Magnet]

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That's crazy. And confusing af. Where are games 1/2 on that time line then since the vortex is still there?

Hi there! Total Warhammer came out pretty much just after Games Workshop (the company that owns the IP) discontinued Warhammer Fantasy, ending the series. The events in this game are some time before the start of The End Times, though the time period is a little internally inconsistent: Azhag for example died about 400 years before Grimgor came into being in the lore, but I don't really mind because eh. Rule of cool.

This game takes place in what tabletop players know as "8th edition", which was the last edition of Warhammer Fantasy to be made. Its still not known whether the third game in this trilogy will essentially be the End Times, but with everything that goes on in this game its safe to assume everything here is happening imminently before it: Archaon is gathering his weapons of power, Karl Franz is consolidating his power and making allies around the world, Thorgrim has just opened his doors to retake the realms and strike out grudges, and Grimgor is... Idk. Shouting at things I guess.

As Fennik said, in the canon of The End Times the world is entirely destroyed. The series is discontinued, and the game world is canonically killed. Almost every character you see in Total Warhammer dies in the event, and the decision by Games Workshop still has fans of the original game feeling anywhere from conflicted to resentful. There's a lot of information out there about it and a ton of videos if you're curious, or for some reason want to listen to very upset people trying to work through the percieved death of a hobby they've had for in some cases dozens of years.

The lore of Age of Sigmar is: Sigmar survived the planet being nuked, and with the power of some cosmic entity used god powers to magic up an entire planet of elite soldiers, let's call them marines, in the middle of space. Space marines if you will. Instead of a deep and richly detailed single world, the game is now in the same vein as 40k: Infinite worlds with infinite possibilities. Some like the move as it gives them more creative freedom to invent new races etcetera whenever they see fit without having to worry about breaking their own lore (since its much less set in stone now - there's always another world etc) but others strongly dislike it as it essentially means there's no reason to give a crap about a world when they are infinite.

There are a lot of strong opinions about it, but its not really anything to worry about if you want to enjoy the Total Warhammer game. I suppose the only advice I'd give is to not get too attached to the lore - as amazing as warhammer fantasy is, this game is a swansong.

[Super Cosmic Space Magnet]

Also Voxrox, RIP storm of chaos. The crotch-kickingest crown-headbuttingest timeline ever. :'(

[Lord Kragan]

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That's crazy. And confusing af. Where are games 1/2 on that time line then since the vortex is still there?

Hi there! Total Warhammer came out pretty much just after Games Workshop (the company that owns the IP) discontinued Warhammer Fantasy, ending the series. The events in this game are some time before the start of The End Times, though the time period is a little internally inconsistent: Azhag for example died about 400 years before Grimgor came into being in the lore, but I don't really mind because eh. Rule of cool.

This game takes place in what tabletop players know as "8th edition", which was the last edition of Warhammer Fantasy to be made. Its still not known whether the third game in this trilogy will essentially be the End Times, but with everything that goes on in this game its safe to assume everything here is happening imminently before it: Archaon is gathering his weapons of power, Karl Franz is consolidating his power and making allies around the world, Thorgrim has just opened his doors to retake the realms and strike out grudges, and Grimgor is... Idk. Shouting at things I guess.

As Fennik said, in the canon of The End Times the world is entirely destroyed. The series is discontinued, and the game world is canonically killed. Almost every character you see in Total Warhammer dies in the event, and the decision by Games Workshop still has fans of the original game feeling anywhere from conflicted to resentful. There's a lot of information out there about it and a ton of videos if you're curious, or for some reason want to listen to very upset people trying to work through the percieved death of a hobby they've had for in some cases dozens of years.

The lore of Age of Sigmar is: Sigmar survived the planet being nuked, and with the power of some cosmic entity used god powers to magic up an entire planet of elite soldiers, let's call them marines, in the middle of space. Space marines if you will. Instead of a deep and richly detailed single world, the game is now in the same vein as 40k: Infinite worlds with infinite possibilities. Some like the move as it gives them more creative freedom to invent new races etcetera whenever they see fit without having to worry about breaking their own lore (since its much less set in stone now - there's always another world etc) but others strongly dislike it as it essentially means there's no reason to give a crap about a world when they are infinite.

There are a lot of strong opinions about it, but its not really anything to worry about if you want to enjoy the Total Warhammer game. I suppose the only advice I'd give is to not get too attached to the lore - as amazing as warhammer fantasy is, this game is a swansong.

But the realms have never been infinite? That as a first point, I don't really feel like arguing the rest.

[Super Cosmic Space Magnet]

Eh, I'm sure they'll tack on some more stargates eventually. I'm honestly not all that familiar with AoS from the last year or two, I've sort of started treating it in the same vein as Warcraft lore. The point of my post is more to give a rough idea of what The End Times was, and why it doesn't need to inhibit your enjoyment of this game - which I think is great.

[zefyris]

End times was written by someone who didn't have a clue about high elf (and several others) lores.
Almost every single HE character (including gods themselves, if that's not something) behaved completely out of character in there. The "Crazy revelations" don't make any sense and are just retconning the lore in a way that made any previous big retcon from GW looks like the best writing ever. Who beats who and how, who allies with who and how, who serves who and why, nothing makes sense.
If they were going to end the wh verse, they could have just written a small novella about IkitClaw finally doing what he has been trying to do for a while, IE, making a bomb strong enough to destroy the whole plannet.. and detonate it. At least you coudl have said that the WH verse ended with a bang.

[Super Cosmic Space Magnet]

I love the spooky ghost :(