How does a tomb king deal with lategame elf dragon spam?

[⚜Hamiradon⚜]

So, im at round 220 with Exiles of Nehek, and im struggling to figure out how to deal with the massive coalition of every elf faction mixed into one, and they keep sending 4 lords each with 16+ star dragons or phoenixes at me. How would i deal with this?

[XMass]

Originally posted by Dreth:

How do you combat Dragon spam?
Hey, if you have any mod suggestions to make the ai calm down with giant monster units, throw it at me.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1159558347

Solve most of the problems. You can still have troubles with weird armies, but very few.

[⚜Hamiradon⚜]

Originally posted by XMass:

Originally posted by Dreth:

How do you combat Dragon spam?
Hey, if you have any mod suggestions to make the ai calm down with giant monster units, throw it at me.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1159558347

Solve most of the problems. You can still have troubles with weird armies, but very few.

Oh, will have a look!

[⚜Hamiradon⚜]

Originally posted by Cacomistle:

Originally posted by ☙⚜❧ Ɓaron ☙⚜❧:

I agree that Ushabtis with bows are amazing, but you need a lvl 4 city to get those, and there are only so many necrotects you can have. Tomb kings just seem to be kinda gimped in the campaign lategame if you let the elves join up with eachother.

In the late game tomb kings can get like 10-11 stacks. On high difficulties, most factions are stuck with like 5-6.

So basically, where if you were playing say dark elves you might take the 1v1 fight with a stack of black guard with maybe some ranged support and your own dragons, on tomb kings you'll just bring 2 stacks instead of 1. 2 stacks of tomb guard with hablerds along with the red line skill buffs will beat 1 army of star dragons.

Then theres lahmizash. A stack of mass ushabti in his army I think will actually beat a stack of star dragons. Ushabti in his stack certainly get higher melee attack and defense than star dragons do.

Also considering you are turn 220, you should have the ability to get quite a few ushabti great bows, I think turn 180 I could get like 20 of them. Unless they took over the map, high elves probably aren't bringing 10 stacks of star dragons, so you only need a few armies, really just 1-2 capable of dealing with a star dragon stack. The rest can just 2v1, or avoid star dragon stacks altogether and just backcap high value cities.

Im quite new to this game, so i can't say i have been conquering things efficiently. The whole dark elf continent is essentially under my control, but the giant elf coalition still controls like 65 locations and has a grand 4 legendary lords under their command.
Currently only at 6 bow ushabtis, lol.

[rlee87]

As TK, by turn 220 you should have more stacks than anyone. you are spending urns for an extra lord right? With that you should be able to have an extra stack of cheap units (skeleton with spears and archers) following your elite stacks around. Also sepulchrul stalkers, necrosphinx, and necropolis knights (halberds) are all great for anti large. Necrosphinx is better vs a single entity compared to fighting multiple entities. I prefer using necropolis knights with halberds fully decked out from skills.

If you're still having a hard time: as khatep its easy to have a lord with 2 priests focused on recruitment, pumping out triple gold chevron units. Recruit 2 priests with the wise trait and level them up enough to get that skill which gives an additional 2 ranks for recruitment. The lord should make a beeline for the final blue skill.

But still, with a balanced army of elite units, all the unit buffs and powerful items (from crafting) you should be able to defeat dragon army stacks with a single elite stack. Maybe the problem lies with your ability to micro efficiently?

[⚜Hamiradon⚜]

Originally posted by rlee87:

As TK, by turn 220 you should have more stacks than anyone. you are spending urns for an extra lord right? With that you should be able to have an extra stack of cheap units (skeleton with spears and archers) following your elite stacks around. Also sepulchrul stalkers, necrosphinx, and necropolis knights (halberds) are all great for anti large. Necrosphinx is better vs a single entity compared to fighting multiple entities. I prefer using necropolis knights with halberds fully decked out from skills.

If you're still having a hard time: as khatep its easy to have a lord with 2 priests focused on recruitmshould make a beeline for the final blue skill.

But still, with a balanced army of elite units, all the unit buffs and powerful items (from crafting) you should be able to defeat dragon army stacks with a single elite stack. Maybe the problem lies with your ability to micro efficiently?

Your last statement is guaranteedly a part of it, im rather fresh to the game, but i do often play using the slow mode and pause option to position my units correctly, but as of now it is only the elf lords with mass star dragons i have issue with.
Tyrion/Teclis and company will always hit me when i least expect it, and they seem to have more movement points than anything i have seen in the game so far, crossing 3 territories in one turn at times, when not in march, so it is only a few times i have managed to catch them.
The amount of lords i have is equal to them currently, thanks to said "A new Dynasty", but that's only because every elf on the map confederated in turn 30, morphing into a 40 city behemoth that has only grown ever since.
I'm probably doing something wrong, since whenever those dragons hit anything, they remove 1/5 of the health bar of even the necrosphinxes. Anything that isnt offed by the dragons is taken out by the 4-8 Sisters of Avalon he and they keep in the back, which i would normally have my bow Ushabtis take out, but they are often heavily damaged thanks to the "star dragon breath" at that point.
Also, i did mention that they have MULTIPLE armies with mass star dragons? I have no idea how the AI handles that upkeep, but again, only having 5 big cities, i can barely match their monster production.

I didn't make this thread to whine mind you, i was just stumped at what to do here, so i came for some advice, as i didn't find any good strategies on mass high tier monsters.

Gotten some good so far already!

[Maschinengewehr]

Tomb Kings don't really have a counter for massed armoured halberd spam. They didn't on TT either and it was a legit counter strategy there too.