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Gyoza_salty May 20, 2018 @ 7:11am
Relationship between Everqueen and Tyrion?
Since Everqueen is coming

Is it true that they share the same blood and sleep together or Just a joke from fandom?
Last edited by Gyoza_salty; May 20, 2018 @ 7:12am
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crysis May 20, 2018 @ 7:13am 
if thats is true malekith would be her half borther then
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Kaaz May 20, 2018 @ 7:20am 
Tyrion is the Everqueen's mount. i dont think they have the same blood, thats a dark elf thing
crysis May 20, 2018 @ 7:21am 
Originally posted by Kaaz:
Tyrion is the Everqueen's mount.
This sir you made my day my hat off to you
zefyris May 20, 2018 @ 7:25am 
They are very very vaguely related, since both have the same great great (*X) grand parents (Aenarion and Astarielle) from 7000 years ago.
Teclis and Tyrion are descendants of Morelion, their first son, and Alarielle is descendant of their first (and next everqueen after Astarielle) daughter, Yvraine.
Malekith is son of Aenarion and Morathi, so he's slightly related to both as well, being half brother of the ancestor of Moralion and Yvraine.

I think it's pretty much cannon that they are lovers, yes.

The end times writting (bad fanficiton level) screwed up with every single HE character and even made Tyrion being the father of Alarielle's first child, but that part is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ so ignore that.

What's important is, Tyrion is one of Alarielle's consorts. The Everqueens have harems (and so do the Phoenix kings), and are only obligated to have a ritual wedding for their first year with the Phoenix King, and get from that their first born child, who will always be born from that year and always be female (The Everqueen is Isha's chosen, so it's quite obvious that Isha is making sure that this always happen- hence why that's so stupid to believe the end of time ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ btw), and will always be the next crowned Everqueen.
After that, both can choose to not really continue that relationship (there are case where it continued because both loved each other, but usually they don't, it's just a mariage of circumstances) and do whatever they want.

Tyrion has been Alarielle's champion and consort (and life saviour) for more than 200 years.
So it's pretty obvious they've "done it" and more than once.

Still, just because they share ancestors from a long time ago doesn't make that an incestuous relationship. They're not dark elves, they're not that much into that sort of thing.

Last edited by zefyris; May 20, 2018 @ 7:38am
Lokiel May 20, 2018 @ 8:34am 
Originally posted by zefyris:
They are very very vaguely related, since both have the same great great (*X) grand parents (Aenarion and Astarielle) from 7000 years ago.
Teclis and Tyrion are descendants of Morelion, their first son, and Alarielle is descendant of their first (and next everqueen after Astarielle) daughter, Yvraine.
Malekith is son of Aenarion and Morathi, so he's slightly related to both as well, being half brother of the ancestor of Moralion and Yvraine.

I think it's pretty much cannon that they are lovers, yes.

The end times writting (bad fanficiton level) screwed up with every single HE character and even made Tyrion being the father of Alarielle's first child, but that part is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ so ignore that.

What's important is, Tyrion is one of Alarielle's consorts. The Everqueens have harems (and so do the Phoenix kings), and are only obligated to have a ritual wedding for their first year with the Phoenix King, and get from that their first born child, who will always be born from that year and always be female (The Everqueen is Isha's chosen, so it's quite obvious that Isha is making sure that this always happen- hence why that's so stupid to believe the end of time ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ btw), and will always be the next crowned Everqueen.
After that, both can choose to not really continue that relationship (there are case where it continued because both loved each other, but usually they don't, it's just a mariage of circumstances) and do whatever they want.

Tyrion has been Alarielle's champion and consort (and life saviour) for more than 200 years.
So it's pretty obvious they've "done it" and more than once.

Still, just because they share ancestors from a long time ago doesn't make that an incestuous relationship. They're not dark elves, they're not that much into that sort of thing.
Don't forget that Alarielle gave Tyrion a magical item, the Heart of Avelorn, which is basically a magical brooch in the form of a heart (so cuuuuuuute. I bet they have maching underwear, too). If Tyrion dies, that thingy is supposed to break on the spot and resurrect him. But "the bond" between them, "whatever it is" will forever be broken, never to be rekindled again, if that were to happen.

So, obviously, they shag. Until Tyrion dies once, at least.
Maschinengewehr May 20, 2018 @ 10:02pm 
Thing is, how do Tyrion and Teclis have Aenarion's curse in their blood if they're descended from Aenarion's children from his first marriage and before he drew the Sword of Khaine?
ArchaicReaper May 20, 2018 @ 10:23pm 
Originally posted by Maschinengewehr:
Thing is, how do Tyrion and Teclis have Aenarion's curse in their blood if they're descended from Aenarion's children from his first marriage and before he drew the Sword of Khaine?

Because the Sword cursed his bloodline, and that includes them. It doesn't matter that they were born beforehand, it's a god wrought curse.
Gamefever May 20, 2018 @ 11:03pm 
What only 7,000 years ago they shared an ancestor?
You realize in elf years thats like reverse dog years right....So that means that they are cousins.
Maschinengewehr May 20, 2018 @ 11:10pm 
Originally posted by ArchaicReaper:
Originally posted by Maschinengewehr:
Thing is, how do Tyrion and Teclis have Aenarion's curse in their blood if they're descended from Aenarion's children from his first marriage and before he drew the Sword of Khaine?

Because the Sword cursed his bloodline, and that includes them. It doesn't matter that they were born beforehand, it's a god wrought curse.

I guess that makes sense. I thought it only cursed his descendants thereafter.

Originally posted by Gamefever:
What only 7,000 years ago they shared an ancestor?
You realize in elf years thats like reverse dog years right....So that means that they are cousins.

There's like 5 generations between them. So it's more like 200+ years of human equivalent. That's very distant.
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Jerroser May 20, 2018 @ 11:18pm 
Originally posted by Gamefever:
What only 7,000 years ago they shared an ancestor?
You realize in elf years thats like reverse dog years right....So that means that they are cousins.
Although Elves are meant to live exeptionally long lives, the lore (as is the case with Elves on all fantasy worlds) is very unspecific about exactly how long and what should be considered the average. Although maybe I mistaking some of the figures here but, from what I know the number of generations that have apparently passed for both the High and Dark Elves since many of earlier events has always felt a little odd compred to how long they are supposed to live.
Maschinengewehr May 20, 2018 @ 11:34pm 
Originally posted by Jerroser:
Originally posted by Gamefever:
What only 7,000 years ago they shared an ancestor?
You realize in elf years thats like reverse dog years right....So that means that they are cousins.
Although Elves are meant to live exeptionally long lives, the lore (as is the case with Elves on all fantasy worlds) is very unspecific about exactly how long and what should be considered the average. Although maybe I mistaking some of the figures here but, from what I know the number of generations that have apparently passed for both the High and Dark Elves since many of earlier events has always felt a little odd compred to how long they are supposed to live.

Or how long it takes for them to reach adulthood. That's always a bit of an enigma when discussing Elves. Or any long-lived race for that matter.

At least a Dwarf's lifespan is actually clearly defined in Warhammer.
Lokiel May 21, 2018 @ 3:07am 
The problem with elven lifelength is probably that powerful magic allows some elves to mature faster and live longer. That's, for instance, the case of Morathi, Ariel and Malekith who are still around even though they should be long dead.

We know that there has been more than 10 kings between Aenarion and the time of the game. An average kingship during the middle age could be estimated to 20 years. So we're probably looking at the equivalent of 200 years.

Another way to look at that is that the only phoenix king who died of natural cause, in his sleep, was Caradryel the Peacemaker. He died after reigning for 700 years. Unfortunately we don't how old he was at the time he was crowned but he was already an adult man when he became phoenix king (since I doubt they would throw a child or teenager through the fire of Asuryan and it is mentionned he was an able ruler). That would make him probably around the equivalent of 30, which would mean that for him to die "peacefully in his sleep" (which means: of old age, quite likely) he would have had to be at least 60 (even in Middle age, you wouldn't have died of natural cause under that) . So 700 years correspond to between 30 and 50 years. So 7000 years would be around 300 years and 500 years.

At the very least we know 7000 years is a long time even by elven standards, the equivalent of several hundred human years.
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