Warhammer TW 2 Story Timeline: End Times? Twin Tailed Comet?

[Lyrithus]

Where does Warhammer Total War 2 fit into the story from the first game?

Their doesn't seem to be any direct answers about when in the warhammer timeline Warhammer TW 2 takes place. Someone said the twin tailed comet is what disrupts the vortex in game 2. If that is the same Twin Tailed comet that heralds the coming of Chaos, then... Where are we?

The twin Tailed Comet heralded the birth of Dark Gods Champion, the boy who would one day become a Sigmarite Priest, then abandon Sigmar and his faith, finally becoming Archaon The Everchosen.

Source1 - http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/The_End_Times
Source2 - http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Archaon

From Source 2:

The World's Ending: Shortened Version

"And so the mortal world fell away into oblivion. The gnawing rift at the heart of Mankind's domain devoured reality..."

"...Invigorated, the polar rifts slipped their ancient bounds and joined their younger sibling in its feast..."

"...dryad-song echoed under livid skies as Athel Loren perished. With its destruction, the Weave that bound the time and space together thinned and stretched..." "...it dissolved entirely into nothingess..."

"...Already tired of their victory, the Dark Gods..." "...paid no heed to the tiny speck of light tumbling in the infinite darkness -- the glowing essense of what had once been a man."

"Through the storm of nothingness he fell, adrift for aeons upon unseed tides. Then came a glimmering orb..."

"...Desperate, the figure seized upon the sphere with a grip that could shatter mountains. He stared into the void, and from the darkness, the void stared back. The figure clung tight, marshalling his faded strength. He reached forth his hand, and a miracle took shape......These were truly the End Times"

—Epilogue

The Timelines of Game 1 and Game 2 are only a few years apart, if at all. The events played out in game 1 are all true to the lore of the end times, period. read:

http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Archaon

The above link tells the story of game 1, including Archeons battle against the factions of the old world, The Empire and Karl Franz, Manfred Von Carstein, and all the other major playable characters/factions in Game 1. That IS the bringer of the End Times, but depending on what faction you play, you basically control the outcome, changing weather or not Archeon swallows the world in Chaos.

In Game 2, its just a "Meanwhile, on the otherside of the world, this was happening".

The other main point I'm trying to make is that the playable races in Game 2, (Dark Elves, Skaven, Lizardmen), are supposed to exist in the old world, (Game 1), just as much as they are present in the new world, (Game 2), and should have their own factions in Game 1.

Yet CA decided to cut them from existence in Game 1, because their release as playable races/factions in Game 2 gives them the excuse they need to split the enitre thing into two seperate games, forcing players/consumers to buy two games to be able to play any race that should have been just as playable in Game 1. If they included all the races that should have been in the old world according to the lore, (Dark Elves, Skaven, Lizardmen), then there would be just that much less incentive to buy Game 2.

[Kaaz]

Lyrithus eredeti hozzászólása:

Maschinengewehr eredeti hozzászólása:

Go to google and search "Total War Warhammer 2 Mortal Empires Campaign" and get back to us.

I'm not talking about some lame mortal empire faction in game 2, I'm talking about the Empire. Even though it exists, and its 16 years apart in story from game 1, it's not in game 2. Also, you can't play wood elves. The old world, and all of its factions, the MOST IMPORTANT factions and characters in the Warhammer story, are just gone, left in game 1.

Mortal Empires is the name of the campaign that combines both games (through game 2) fyi

[Maschinengewehr]

Kaaz eredeti hozzászólása:

Lyrithus eredeti hozzászólása:

I'm not talking about some lame mortal empire faction in game 2, I'm talking about the Empire. Even though it exists, and its 16 years apart in story from game 1, it's not in game 2. Also, you can't play wood elves. The old world, and all of its factions, the MOST IMPORTANT factions and characters in the Warhammer story, are just gone, left in game 1.

Mortal Empires is the name of the campaign that combines both games (through game 2) fyi

Christ. How does he not know that?

[Lyrithus]

Maschinengewehr eredeti hozzászólása:

Lyrithus eredeti hozzászólása:

Warhammer Total War 2 should have just been a big DLC, combining the old world with the new. A Grand Campaign map with both the "Old" half of the world and the "New" half of the world, with ALL races, and ALL factions. I feel like we just have to pay full price tag ($59.99) twice for two halves of a game, then another $60, twice, for all those games' DLC content. That's a toal of $240 for what should have been 1 freaking game.

Are you still asking about the lore here, or you just having a ♥♥♥♥♥?

I was asking about the lore to clarify that although everything from game 1 exists in the story of game 2, its gone and no longer playable. Stupid, and that in itself is why their claim to be true to the lore and story is undeserving.

Especially since none of the races in game 2 are even in game 1. Game 1 is the focal point; the center stage for this timeline's main story, because of the everchosen and the coming of the end times. Yet they leave it to make a seperate game, and in game 2 we see just a complete lack of lore and story-linking aspects to the events of game 1, the stuff that ties the two halves of the world together. That's important for CA, because they don't want anyone to focus and those ties, and feel like game 2 is just a "Meanwhile, in the other half of the world, this happened" because it would make it feel like an expansion on game 1, WHICH it should be.

[Zoie Shales]

Kaaz eredeti hozzászólása:

Lyrithus eredeti hozzászólása:

I'm not talking about some lame mortal empire faction in game 2, I'm talking about the Empire. Even though it exists, and its 16 years apart in story from game 1, it's not in game 2. Also, you can't play wood elves. The old world, and all of its factions, the MOST IMPORTANT factions and characters in the Warhammer story, are just gone, left in game 1.

Mortal Empires is the name of the campaign that combines both games (through game 2) fyi

https://www.totalwar.com/blog/mortal-empires

Heres info on it scince he apperently doesn't know.

[SleepyNarwhalz]

We're not getting those factions because this map doesn't cover where they live, and they weren't in the original game because they weren't made yet. When the Mortal Empires campaign comes out we'll be able to play on a map that covers everything (aside from the darklands and the far east).

As to when the two games takes place, it happens in some amorphous time between the year 1502 and the End Times. You seem to be under the impression that this game takes place during the canon End Times, and it doesn't.

[Maschinengewehr]

RecalledDread eredeti hozzászólása:

Mortal Empire isn't a faction. It is the combined campaign bringing the Old world and New world together, with all factions (assuming you own both games).

[Kaaz]

Oh and pre-emptively:

Its a free update to the game 2 for the owners of both tww1 + 2, anything youve bought for either game you'll be able to play.

[FeralJim]

Zoie Shales eredeti hozzászólása:

Spoiler: The comet seen in every factions intro is actually a Skaven Spaceship, part of the Skaven space program, a parody of the true comet, as revield in every factions revilation cutscene it was a plan by the Greyseers to the the catalyst for controlling the vortex through disturbing the winds of magic and makeing the vortex weak and right for take-takeing.

Dude the best part about your post right here, is that I dont even know if your trolling! ~ At first I started reading and was like D: but then I kept going and ended up like :D

[Willem]

You clearly did not finish the story OP

[Lyrithus]

Maschinengewehr eredeti hozzászólása:

Kaaz eredeti hozzászólása:

Mortal Empires is the name of the campaign that combines both games (through game 2) fyi

Christ. How does he not know that?

hahaha no its not. its a Third install ment of the game series. another $59.99 game title that isnt out yet, and won't be out for a long time. Warhammer Total War 3 will be released, and 6 months or so from then, there will be a release, (in some form) that will combine all three games. That's $340 when you add up all three games, and their $50-$60 in dlc's.

[Kaaz]

Ah so your delusional awell then

[Lyrithus]

SleepyNarwhalz eredeti hozzászólása:

We're not getting those factions because this map doesn't cover where they live, and they weren't in the original game because they weren't made yet. When the Mortal Empires campaign comes out we'll be able to play on a map that covers everything (aside from the darklands and the far east).

As to when the two games takes place, it happens in some amorphous time between the year 1502 and the End Times. You seem to be under the impression that this game takes place during the canon End Times, and it doesn't.

That's my point, we arent getting the complete map. We have it? it's there? the data is all there in game 1? but, they didnt wanna tie it in together with game 2. not before game 3, and then Mortal Empires release that combines all three maps.

[SleepyNarwhalz]

Lyrithus eredeti hozzászólása:

Maschinengewehr eredeti hozzászólása:

Christ. How does he not know that?

hahaha no its not. its a Third install ment of the game series. another $59.99 game title that isnt out yet, and won't be out for a long time. Warhammer Total War 3 will be released, and 6 months or so from then, there will be a release, (in some form) that will combine all three games. That's $340 when you add up all three games, and their $50-$60 in dlc's.

I'm confused, are you saying you think Mortal Empires is a third game in the series that costs 60 dollars?

[SleepyNarwhalz]

Lyrithus eredeti hozzászólása:

SleepyNarwhalz eredeti hozzászólása:

We're not getting those factions because this map doesn't cover where they live, and they weren't in the original game because they weren't made yet. When the Mortal Empires campaign comes out we'll be able to play on a map that covers everything (aside from the darklands and the far east).

As to when the two games takes place, it happens in some amorphous time between the year 1502 and the End Times. You seem to be under the impression that this game takes place during the canon End Times, and it doesn't.

That's my point, we arent getting the complete map. We have it? it's there? the data is all there in game 1? but, they didnt wanna tie it in together with game 2. not before game 3, and then Mortal Empires release that combines all three maps.

Ok, I see the point of your error. Mortal Empires is something that combines only game one and two, and will be coming out sometime within this or next month. Game 3 will have it's own seperate map similar to mortal empires where it combines all three games. I would advise reading the link posted earlier.
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/mortal-empires

[Lyrithus]

haha Mortal empires will be a $59.99 release a year or so after WTW2. you guys clearly dont get it. it's all about stretching out as much content over game releases and dlc's for profit as much as they can.