[Kinda Solved] Cannot get 144fps with 1080Ti

[Adol Christin]

My specs:

Intel Core i5-8400
Msi Geforce GTX 1080Ti Gaming X Trio
8GB DDR4-2400
Asus ROG Strix Z370-F
Using Acer ED242QR Abidpx (144hz/VA) with DisplayPort

Playing the game at 1080p All settings max.

I'm reaching 100~120 rarely ever up to 144 fps (only mostly in small areas) at 1080p is that normal? is the game that consuming or is my specs not enough.


Edit: It might be the issue with using display port like Durante said but i don't have time to test yet

Edit 2: Tested with both DVI and Display Port and yes, like Durante said DVI gives a fps boost to the game for sure, 40 fps during Evermore and in Abyss i got a 20 fps boost.
Am getting better fps but not as good as other people with more or less specs

Edit 3: Using the Special K mod solved the Display Port issue but i cannot tab out for some reason

[Ciel]

Originally posted by Pvt. Prinny:

Originally posted by Ciel:

Are you using DisplayPort?

Yes, i should add that in the description, but the main thing is the fps wouldn't reach 144 in most areas

I found some interesting performance thread from here
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ni-no-kuni-2-pc-performance-thread.31945/page-2#post-6084177

Cannot test myself coz I don't have the game.
But Durante already confirm this game can drop performance if use with DisplayPort.
https://twitter.com/Durante_PT/status/979694886973792256

[Praesi]

I get 130 fps with a 980ti in 1440p. Your CPU doesnt fit your GPU.

[Adol Christin]

Originally posted by Ciel:

Originally posted by Pvt. Prinny:

Yes, i should add that in the description, but the main thing is the fps wouldn't reach 144 in most areas

I found some interesting performance thread from here
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ni-no-kuni-2-pc-performance-thread.31945/page-2#post-6084177

Cannot test myself coz I don't have the game.
But Durante already confirm this game can drop performance if use with DisplayPort.
https://twitter.com/Durante_PT/status/979694886973792256

Originally posted by mgk | Praesi:

I get 130 fps with a 980ti in 1440p. Your CPU doesnt fit your GPU.

I think what he said might be true about Display port and Dvi/Hdmi issue, i'll test it when i have the time

[oroelf]

Since when can you get max frame rate on an Nvidia card with a FreeSync monitor?

[Adol Christin]

Originally posted by oroelf:

Since when can you get max frame rate on an Nvidia card with a FreeSync monitor?

I can, most of the games I play get max frame rate when capped, I just won't be able to make use of the free-sync technology to solve screen tear

[Đюя]

For reference I get 200+fps on the highest settings at 1080p
i7 4770k (stock speed)
GTX 1070 (OCd to 2100mhz)
16gb DDR3 1866mhz

[Kaldaien]

I can offer some insight here... I dearly wish I could post on ResetEra, but I cannot create a new account at the moment.


A user of my software for some reason had the DXGI debug runtime enabled and it will spit out the following:

04/01/2018 13:45:32.855: DXGIDebug.dll           :  DXGI WARNING: IDXGISwapChain::Present: Fullscreen presentation inefficiencies incurred due to application not using IDXGISwapChain::ResizeBuffers appropriately, specifying a DXGI_MODE_DESC not available in IDXGIOutput::GetDisplayModeList, or not using DXGI_SWAP_CHAIN_FLAG_ALLOW_MODE_SWITCH.DXGI_SWAP_CHAIN_DESC::BufferDesc = { 3840, 2160, { 60, 1 }, R8G8B8A8_UNORM, 0, 1 }; DXGI_SWAP_CHAIN_DESC::SampleDesc = { 1, 0 }; DXGI_SWAP_CHAIN_DESC::Flags = 0x2; [ MISCELLANEOUS WARNING #98: ]

That goes along with my own observation that the stupid game is calling GetDisplayModeList (...) an absurd number of times because the developers are looking ONLY for centered timings.


I believe, if you use my NiNoStutter mod, and then select: Fullscreen / (Scaling Mode: Unspecified), this will stop the insanity. The game may still make a ludicrous number of attempts to get the display mode list (but that can be fixed if you set D3D11 Resolution Limiting in my mod's config menu.



If someone could forward this info to ResetEra, that would be appreciated.

[Ascii Aficionado]

I thought this game was capped at 60 ?

[lolCindered]

Originally posted by Kaldaien:

That goes along with my own observation that the stupid game is calling GetDisplayModeList (...) an absurd number of times because the developers are looking ONLY for centered timings.


I believe, if you use my NiNoStutter mod, and then select: Fullscreen / (Scaling Mode: Unspecified), this will stop the insanity. The game may still make a ludicrous number of attempts to get the display mode list (but that can be fixed if you set D3D11 Resolution Limiting in my mod's config menu.



If someone could forward this info to ResetEra, that would be appreciated.

I may just be doing it wrong, but this didn't work at all for me. I used the resolution limiting, too.

FWIW, having Special K hooked in at all when I'm connected through DisplayPort actually kills performance even harder, I go from about 55-65fps to about 25-35.

[Adol Christin]

Originally posted by Ascii Aficionado:

I thought this game was capped at 60 ?

There's 30, 60 and uncapped in option

[Kaldaien]

Originally posted by lolCindered:

Originally posted by Kaldaien:

That goes along with my own observation that the stupid game is calling GetDisplayModeList (...) an absurd number of times because the developers are looking ONLY for centered timings.


I believe, if you use my NiNoStutter mod, and then select: Fullscreen / (Scaling Mode: Unspecified), this will stop the insanity. The game may still make a ludicrous number of attempts to get the display mode list (but that can be fixed if you set D3D11 Resolution Limiting in my mod's config menu.



If someone could forward this info to ResetEra, that would be appreciated.

I may just be doing it wrong, but this didn't work at all for me. I used the resolution limiting, too.

FWIW, having Special K hooked in at all when I'm connected through DisplayPort actually kills performance even harder, I go from about 55-65fps to about 25-35.

Consider using 0.0.2. I have changed it to dinput8.dll, because I STRONGLY suspect your problem is being caused by some unknown video capture software. dinput8.dll will avoid compatibility problems with most vidcap software.

You may also need to explicitly set your monitor's refresh rate in dinput8.ini.

[Adol Christin]

Just tested with both display port and dvi connected, in kingdom and in world map the fps went from 94 fps to 140+ (a very huge boost), In abyss the fps went from 90 ish to 120 i think i'm going to try the Special K mod tomorrow once me exam is done. Fps in menu is boosted too.

One weird thing i've noticed is how if i switched from dvi to dp with the game opened, the game is white screen, after tabbing out it won't come back.
But if i do the opposite and switch dp to dvi, the game is black screen and after tabbing out and back in the game still works.

[The British Viking]

It is 100% your CPU. My i5 6600k bottlenecks my 1080 at 144hz in open world games. Your 8400 just is not enough to pick up the slack.

[APerfidiousDane]

Originally posted by The_Reaper95:

It is 100% your CPU. My i5 6600k bottlenecks my 1080 at 144hz in open world games. Your 8400 just is not enough to pick up the slack.

That doesn't seem to be the case in this situation.

[Kaldaien]

Originally posted by The_Reaper95:

It is 100% your CPU. My i5 6600k bottlenecks my 1080 at 144hz in open world games. Your 8400 just is not enough to pick up the slack.

It's a driver overhead problem actually and NiNoStutter works around the issue completely.

The game is doing stuff every frame that should only be done once at application start. Ths particular operation has higher overhead on certain display signal transport types (i.e. HDMI, DVI, DisplayPort) than others.