What i feel About Unity and Origins.

[Sir Noob Wulf]

So i was bored,So i downloaded Unity and Booted it up again.


I played for around 45 mins straight and had just one question in mind.
Why did we hate it so much again?

So i decided to compare 3 games.AC Unity,AC Origins and AC Ezio Trilogy(Cuz lets be honest from a gameplay standpoint they are effectively the same).
The games which are also described as The crappy one,The new and awesome one and the best damn AC ever made in their respective order.

1)Story:
->Ac Ezio Triology:I mean it is the obvious winner here No game in the franchise can bear the pressure of matching the level of storytelling in these games.I mean it is practically cheating putting this as a comparison criteria.So the real fight is between the other two.

->AC Unity:Unity handled the story pretty well.At the time where Black Flag turned out to be a glorified spinoff and AC3 Basically ruined the franchise's story,Unity was not a bad addition at all.I know many people think Rogue was the first game to show the templar's side of things as a valid perspective Unity did it too.And waay better might i add.Yes germain was a cliched evil villain but he wasnt the true representation of the templar order.Just like bellec wasnt a representation of the assassin's.But i guess people were to bored by the love story to really realise the subtle hint that was thrown that both factions had fanatics.That both factions were in fact equal.

->AC Origins:How can you possibly screw up the origin story of a badass group who guard humanities free will you ask?Well Origins is a good place to start.Who knew that all the world needed was one medjay's kid to be murdered (by his own father btw) for said medjay to go out on a quest to hunt down that shadowy organisation?I dont know about you guys but i was expecting more.And the main plot just didnt have it.I was hoping to see more of caesar and cleo but nope we kill faceless "villains" who just seem to randomly pop up towards the end.The only antagonist that i felt something while killing was taharqa.Because he was a man who had dreams,A vision.He wanted people to find peace.Something bayek had in common with him.Other than that there is only one other antagonist that managed to get a strong response from me and that was the crocodile(Because honestly i may not feel a lot but a little girls dead body floating mid-water triggered me badly.No amount of good intentions was going to change my mind about that.)
Overall Origins never had a good antagonist.And that is why the plot suffered.

So story wise
ACE>ACU>ACO

2)Gameplay
->ACE:Probably the weakest entry but not due to its own fault.The damn thing is 7-8 years old

->AC Unity:The 7th entry of a game based on Assassin's Who have a tenet "Hide in plain Sight" but were apparently dissallowed from crouching before revolutionary era France.
If you get my obvious joke lets move to other gameplay elements.Unity Did something i never expected from an AC game.Side missions.And lots of them.And i dont mean the chests.I mean the paris stories.The murder mystries.
The combat was no longer blind button mashing.There was a nuance to it.You coudnt take on 100 enemies and win.Although the enemies did still attack one by one and behaved like chivalrous knights(A problem that would be solved by syndicate of all games).
People hated that the guards were alerted across the area but i loved that.If i was a guard and saw a guy kill my buddy i would call everyone i ever know to hunt him down.
ACU revolutionised what AC should be without causing an identitiy crisis for the franchise.

->AC Origins:Ah Sweet Origins how do i describe thee?Origins took everything i loved from Unity And hit it right out of the park.Except for two things.And those two damn things are the reason why Origins slipped on my list.
Not to mention where the ♥♥♥♥ did the stealth go?What happened to hide in plain sight?We see one tenet of the creed being formed in an expansion sure but this seems like a gross amputation of one of the series's defining features.And dont tell me its because the number of NPC's are less.Alexandria and memphis still has a LOT of people.

So by gameplay ACO>ACU>ACE
3)Progression
Hey why isnt it in gameplay?Because my disdain for it is too high and i need a seperate category for it.

->ACE:Story based progression.There is no skill tree or anything and it honestly doesnt need it.It is a Stealth action game.

->ACU:First to include a skill tree And brilliant implementation might i add.Your skills and gear decide your level.It means you can basically be maxed out without having to play the story at all or just play the story and all your actions in any mission is finally going to earn you that sweet sweet francs which you can get good gear with to tackle higher rated mission with tougher opponents.
The levelling system has 5 levels in total.While definitely odd that some enemies look the same but have bigger health bars Headshots are still instakills and so are assassinations.

->ACO:Horrible.Garbage.I can come up with better and more classy words but you get my point.I can headshot an enemy Thousand ♥♥♥♥ing times and he could stand there with 1% of his HP drained.In unity you could be level 1 but defeat a level 5 enemy if you could dodge and parry properly.In origins,You better give up and go to some side quest to level up.Unity feels natural.Origins feels like a grind.

Although the combat in Origins is more skill based and strategic it all goes out the window when you realise that no matter how good you are,you are going to get ♥♥♥♥ed by a bunch of common bandits just because you are level 1 and they are level 10.

Also You CANNOT assassinate them.I just killed a dude that looks the exact same but i cant kill this dude because there is a bigger number on his head.WHY does AC have to become Action RPG?Is it ANYHTING like an action RPG?Borrowing some elements to make the game interesting is fine but changing something to serve no real purpose is not a change to be proud off.Cmon ubisoft,YOu are great at making games.Create a genre of your own.Stop copying from other's answer sheets.

Here ACU>ACE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ACO

4)Freerunning
Another gameplay aspect i know but it is a staple of this franchise so it merits a discussion of its own.

->ACE:One movement speed for walking,One for fast walk one for run.Character seems to say "♥♥♥♥ you i am not going to that ledge" a lot more than in recent games.

->ACU:After Dumbing down the freerunning to the point where you basically just hold down a button ACU finally makes it a LITTLE interesting again.Arno seems lighter than air and at this point seems to have more arm strength than superman.
->ACO: We still have Super Bayek but he seems to have gained weight.He feels more Human(Did someone make him go near Kryptonite?).I love the one stick movement with a climbing button.Unity's climb down mechanic is missing but let's be honest.How much does bayek have to climb down anyway?

If they could fix the few hitches in climbing and moving that the have now so that we have less "Super-heavy gliding Bayek" and more of a "Super-Heavy Walking like a man Arno" THis system will finally be perfect.11th time is the charm?

Here ACO>=ACU>ACE

5)Modern Day
ACE:I dont need to talk about it.♥♥♥♥ing brilliant.
ACU:Trash
ACO:I Still love you guys.Now gimme a proper story with layla at helm next time okay?

6)And finally the miscellaneous
ACE:It put the franchise among the map,among the legendary franchises in gaming.AC lost its touch after that.
ACU:It Put the franchises on the map alright,Just not how everyone had hoped.AC became a joke.To this date Unity remains broken.So broken in fact that i have about 10 glitches memorised.
However ACU did something no other AC did on this Gen.Multiplayer.And i know eeryone is going to say"Dude AC is single player game" I know.But still I feel as if the only reason i continued playing unity for that long because of the coop and my club that i had in it.We would sit down go to town on the missions We even had paths that we took to maximise "Creed points" from every single mission and won 5 tournaments straight.

ACO: Origins on the other hand is severely lacking on content for more longetivity.The gods are a dissapointment,The rewards are already over and even if they release new Gear packs,There is virtually no place to use that gear in except for the hoard mode.Origins had a shorter life than Unity.And unlike Skyrim W3 or fallout it doesnt have any mod support.So there is really no reason to keep playing.I dont know what is to come in origins in the months to come but honestly if there is no new content i would move on to the next game.And probably com back to climb a pyramid for a while before shutting it down again.I know i sound like that ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ who expects multiplayer in everything but maybe basic multiplayer that increases longetivity somehow isnt so bad.

So what do you guys think?Because from where i stand Unity is what an ideal AC game should look like.Maybe with a map that is less cluttered and more things to actually do.

[PureRok]

I'm glad they cut down on the modern day. Now if they just excised it completely that'd be great. Also, Altair is still the best.

Please put spaces after punctuation. Thanks.

[Sir Noob Wulf]

Originally posted by PureRok:

I'm glad they cut down on the modern day. Now if they just excised it completely that'd be great. Also, Altair is still the best.

Please put spaces after punctuation. Thanks.

I feel the reason why AC is in shambles now is because they cut down the modern day.

Also my english teacher has pointed that out so many,times and i still make that mistake xD

[Schincredible]

Originally posted by Wulfrix:

Originally posted by PureRok:

I'm glad they cut down on the modern day. Now if they just excised it completely that'd be great. Also, Altair is still the best.

Please put spaces after punctuation. Thanks.

I feel the reason why AC is in shambles now is because they cut down the modern day.

Also my english teacher has pointed that out so many,times and i still make that mistake xD

I have always found the modern day stuff to be disjointed and out of place. It broke up the pacing and only really doubled down on the flaws of the storytelling. No one enjoys macguffins, and writers often try to stay away from them. However, the entirety of the Desmond storyline is based on a macguffin.

And I'll assume English is your second language? Otherwise that's a strange mistake to make. Then again all languages require spaces.

[Pantherr]

Well I consider the Ezio trilogy to be the best of all AC games. As for Unity, what killed that imo was the introduction of co-op and online crap. Apart from that is wasn't too bad a game. The real world stuff was great imo up untill they killed Desmond, after that it was just no fun anymore.

Origins is a great game "for what it is...", and that is the origin story of the Assassins. I don't consider it to be a true AC game, but again that is just my opinion. I rather enjoyed Black Flag, tho it was more a pirate game than a real AC game but I loved the naval side of things.

One things I do not understand about Origins though is this... Bayek is your main character/protagonist that you control thoughout the game. HE also comes up with the tenants for the Hidden Ones/Assassins. So can anyone tell me WHY at the end that B**** Aya is said to be "the chosen one"?? How did it go from being about Bayek to being about her?

Another thing I get annoyed with about Origins is the "translation software". I wish I could understand more of what is said in the world.. for eg why random boat drives seem to abuse me for going for a swim :).

Unity had a lot goin for it, but certainly could have been better, but as I said what ruined Unity for me, and MANY others from what I read, was the introduction of co-op and online stuff. Sure, some people liked it but from what I read most did not...

I have all the AC games on Uplay and have played through them all multiple times, except for the Chronicles, haven't really gotten into them as yet.

[CursedPanther]

ACU got its plug pulled hard almost instantly due to its glaring launch issues and had its only main DLC released free to all owners. What's that nonsense with ACO having less longevity than ACU about?

[Sir Noob Wulf]

Originally posted by Schinconceivable:

Originally posted by Wulfrix:

I feel the reason why AC is in shambles now is because they cut down the modern day.

Also my english teacher has pointed that out so many,times and i still make that mistake xD

And I'll assume English is your second language? Otherwise that's a strange mistake to make. Then again all languages require spaces.

3rd language actually. Plus i have a knack of making stupid mistakes.

[Sir Noob Wulf]

Originally posted by Pantherr:

Well I consider the Ezio trilogy to be the best of all AC games. As for Unity, what killed that imo was the introduction of co-op and online crap. Apart from that is wasn't too bad a game. The real world stuff was great imo up untill they killed Desmond, after that it was just no fun anymore.

Origins is a great game "for what it is...", and that is the origin story of the Assassins. I don't consider it to be a true AC game, but again that is just my opinion. I rather enjoyed Black Flag, tho it was more a pirate game than a real AC game but I loved the naval side of things.

One things I do not understand about Origins though is this... Bayek is your main character/protagonist that you control thoughout the game. HE also comes up with the tenants for the Hidden Ones/Assassins. So can anyone tell me WHY at the end that B**** Aya is said to be "the chosen one"?? How did it go from being about Bayek to being about her?

Another thing I get annoyed with about Origins is the "translation software". I wish I could understand more of what is said in the world.. for eg why random boat drives seem to abuse me for going for a swim :).

Unity had a lot goin for it, but certainly could have been better, but as I said what ruined Unity for me, and MANY others from what I read, was the introduction of co-op and online stuff. Sure, some people liked it but from what I read most did not...

I have all the AC games on Uplay and have played through them all multiple times, except for the Chronicles, haven't really gotten into them as yet.

Yup,After AC3 The franchise Went into a decline. BF was great but lets be honest it was more of a spinoff title than a proper AC game and no game since then has had any impact. The lack of a proper MD story caused the games to fail to some extent as the link between them is minimal and there is no overarching narrative anymore.

Actually what i think is the brotherhood that Altair would later join came from bayek. And also i think Ubisoft is compensating for their comment about women being expensive to animate.

Also Unity had a bad launch yes.And that is pretty much the only reason people hate unity. Other than the few bugs every now and then the flaws in Unity are forgivable.

[Sir Noob Wulf]

Originally posted by CursedPanther:

ACU got its plug pulled hard almost instantly due to its glaring launch issues and had its only main DLC released free to all owners. What's that nonsense with ACO having less longevity than ACU about?

Yeah but ACU had coop,And the club competitions went on for a while.