Assassin's Creed Origins

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Syrin Jan 2, 2021 @ 11:27pm
Aya.... worst wife ever
'Nuff said
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no1schmo Jan 2, 2021 @ 11:58pm 
I got bored and didn't finish the game (as often happens in open-world titles for me), but I got pretty close, and she seemed alright to me; why is Aya so bad?
no1schmo Jan 3, 2021 @ 4:38pm 
Okay, but it also says "They decided to split up...They both agreed it was for the best and that...were their family now." Omitting spoilers. So...it seems mutual. Is that not what it looks like in game?
EbonHawk Jan 7, 2021 @ 9:17am 
Originally posted by no1schmo:
Okay, but it also says "They decided to split up...They both agreed it was for the best and that...were their family now." Omitting spoilers. So...it seems mutual. Is that not what it looks like in game?
Not really to me. It seems like, yes, they agreed, but then Bayek was showing signs of remorse at times.. while Aya was completely happy with the situation. Nothing major, just a feeling I had that Bayek wasn't totally amenable to it after some time had passed, but being a man of honour, he abided by his decision, even though it obviously distressed him.
no1schmo Jan 7, 2021 @ 1:56pm 
Yeah, I could see that. After that much stress, people will handle it differently; he wanted to cling to what he still had, she wanted to move on. That was how it was even in the mid parts of the game.
caroraim Jan 9, 2021 @ 7:47am 
There is actually a letter from him to Aya years years after the game in Valhalla. It's actually voiced. Bayek discusses his love for her even then as an older man and states that he will take the memory of her kiss to his tomb. It's pretty sad.
CursedPanther Jan 12, 2021 @ 10:06pm 
The thing is, we know little of Bayek and Aya and their personalities prior to having Khemu, Aya in particular.

What we do know was that Bayek joined the Medjay. We can imagine the kind of person who was willing to join such an order was likely ready to take up great responsibilities and cared for the people of Egypt, at least would be trained to do so. However a high order of patriotism probably also means that he didn't give a damn about those outside the borders and would always give priority to his countrymen.

On the other hand, Aya grew up in Siwa away from her real parents' care who lived on in Alexandria. It would be quite natural for her to become the adventurous and perhaps rebellious kind, the care-free archetype and was always searching for the beyond and a greater sense of purpose. Downside might be she wasn't taught in the inconveniences that come from recklessness and callousness.

People from millennia ago tended to procreate at a rather early age becuz of the considerably shorter average life span, and the practice of safe sex was definitely not a widespread idea till the later 20th Century. Khemu could be what we call 'a child by accident' and she became a parenting figure before she was ready. There is no doubt the death of the child had dealt her a heavy blow as he's outta her own flesh and blood after all. Yet during her own quest for revenge we could basically see that she slowly began to realize Khemu's death might not be the worst outcome for herself and instead gave her back the freedom to continue her search for greatness. This explained why she seemed to keep latching onto the first opportunity that granted her a higher social status without much consideration of consequences. Aya was only in her early twenties and not ready to settle down again. I guess we can see this as selfishness, but doesn't necessarily represent badness.
no1schmo Jan 13, 2021 @ 2:38pm 
Again, I didn't see everything, but I didn't get that sense from Aya at all. Nothing, to me, suggested a "search for greatness" or that she ever saw even a silver lining to Khemu's death. I think the difference was in two different perspectives; Bayek is the most traditional one, who wanted to get his revenge but then return home to his village, his wife, maybe have more kids, live the life he always wanted in his little corner of the world. Aya saw, though, that their quest was far more than just dealing with a few killers, that Egypt itself was in danger, and that the two of them could do far more good fighting for it instead of defending one backwater town. They coped with loss differently; outside of revenge, he sought to get back his old life as much as possible, while she sought to do more with their lives.

And I feel like your characterization of the two is a lot of supposition. Bayek never once acts like he "doesn't give a damn" about Romans, despite them being foreigners from beyond Egypt, nor does he show any animosity to Greeks--quite the opposite in both cases, in fact. And Aya doesn't act like she's just a rebellious girl; nothing suggests she wasn't satisfied with the previous goal of settling down in Siwa for the rest of their lives.

At least, nothing that I saw. I actually really liked their...not really conflict, but tension over what to do. I thought it was actually written in a fair realistic manner; two parents struggling to figure out what to do in an unstable country after their only child is killed, coping with the stress and uncertainty. Add in that they ultimately decided on a very stressful, dangerous, lonely life, it makes sense that they decided to call it quits, but that one of them had a harder time ever accepting that.
Originally posted by caroraim:
There is actually a letter from him to Aya years years after the game in Valhalla. It's actually voiced. Bayek discusses his love for her even then as an older man and states that he will take the memory of her kiss to his tomb. It's pretty sad.

Wait there's Bayek references in Valhalla? That's so cool.
CursedPanther Jan 14, 2021 @ 11:43pm 
Originally posted by no1schmo:
Well, you don't have to agree with what I've said but they are things I got outta the story including the DLC.

Like I've already stated, we know little of the childhood years of Bayek and Aya and neither the companion novel covers it all. There is some fill-in-the-gap to do here and I merely try to apply some real world logic to the events in the game.

Also giving Egypt priority doesn't mean Bayek has to loathe all foreigners. Patriotic has nothing to do with being a racist.
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no1schmo Jan 15, 2021 @ 2:23pm 
Originally posted by CursedPanther:
Originally posted by no1schmo:
Well, you don't have to agree with what I've said but they are things I got outta the story including the DLC.

Like I've already stated, we know little of the childhood years of Bayek and Aya and neither the companion novel covers it all. There is some fill-in-the-gap to do here and I merely try to apply some real world logic to the events in the game.

Also giving Egypt priority doesn't mean Bayek has to loathe all foreigners. Patriotic has nothing to do with being a racist.

I wasn't generally trying to be like "No, you're wrong, stupid!", I too was just giving my read on things. I felt like your "applying real world logic" was a little bit too much supposition.

As to your last point, indeed. That's what I said. In response to you saying "He didn't give a damn" about people outside his borders, even though he, in fact, goes outside of his borders and gives a damn about them. It was the only point I felt like you were way off on, as the game clearly and repeatedly shows him as the exact opposite of that.
spectre199 Jan 17, 2021 @ 6:20pm 
It doesn't even look like their break up was amicable at all. Too me Aya wanted to break up and move on while he didn't. She says she doesn't love him anymore and yet he still loves her.

Also I wouldn't be surprised if she was cheating on Bayek until she broke up with him.
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CursedPanther Jan 18, 2021 @ 2:01am 
Originally posted by spectre199:
It doesn't even look like their break up was amicable at all. Too me Aya wanted to break up and move on while he didn't. She says she doesn't love him anymore and yet he still loves her.
One thing was certain, Aya took the divorce far better than Bayek did. She knew clearly it wasn't Bayek's fault so she didn't exactly hate him either.

Originally posted by spectre199:
Also I wouldn't be surprised if she was cheating on Bayek until she broke up with him.
I wouldn't say things got as dramatic as 'cheating' as there wasn't even hints in the game or companion novel pointing towards such shame. More importantly, the love Bayek and Aya once shared was real and not just a fling. However she did went away after their kid's death to live her own life. Becuz it's an official breakup, there's no reason for her to remain sexually abstinent.
Jᴧgᴧ Jan 22, 2021 @ 2:01pm 
Have to agree with the original poster here, Aya: worst wife ever.

Everyone knows you're stronger in numbers than alone, and a team of two may be one of the strongest groupings. Look at sniper teams (shooter/spotter) and how effective they can be.

Even Bayek isn't alone since he has Senu. Imagine how much less effective he'd be without that bird.

Aya's decision and pushing Bayek to split wins her the 'worst wife ever' award. :poop:
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