Assassin's Creed Origins

Assassin's Creed Origins

View Stats:
Ghostface Jul 14, 2020 @ 7:46pm
Origins vs Odyssey, which is better?
Hello Everyone,

Just curious what your guys' thoughts were on both games. I only ever played Odyssey, but I didn't make it all the way through, it kind of died off for me. But I'm thinking about picking up Origins now as the Egypt setting always seemed interesting, and I haven't actually played Origins at all.

For those of you who have played both games, which do you prefer or think is better? Thanks in advance for all the responses.
Originally posted by Dionysus 🐭:
Originally posted by Regina George:
Hello Everyone,

Just curious what your guys' thoughts were on both games. I only ever played Odyssey, but I didn't make it all the way through, it kind of died off for me. But I'm thinking about picking up Origins now as the Egypt setting always seemed interesting, and I haven't actually played Origins at all.

For those of you who have played both games, which do you prefer or think is better? Thanks in advance for all the responses.
For a serious answer, I would say Origins. Odyssey is honestly a great fantasy RPG loot grinder, but definitely not at all like your traditional AC game. The leveling system ensures that you can never just follow the story (because you will eventually become underleveled for it and have to do side quests to level up), they have replaced the upgrading gear system of Origins (which has you hunting for materials to permanently upgrade armor) to the loot grinder system. Even the main quests are 50% filler/fetch quests in Odyssey, just to get you underleveled for the proper story missions (conveniently, the permanent XP boost microtransaction will give you just enough XP to not have to worry about being underleveled for the story, definitely no relation there...).

Origins is mostly not like that, the only thing you might have to worry about is leveling up, but once you actually do, the story missions have no real filler in them. And leveling up itself is extremely easy, the side quests are interesting (most of the time) and can actually give you some really good rewards, exploring a lot of the locations (like the Pyramids) is very rewarding, which you shouldn't do in Odyssey because there is just so much filler in that world and it doesn't give you too much XP.

Speaking of world, I personally like Origin's world better. Odyssey's world is great, but it's less like a historical ancient Greece and more like a fantasy game (especially with the Isu artifacts and abilities, which aren't present in Origins). In Odyssey there isn't any "wilderness", no real emptiness anywhere, you can't go 30 seconds without coming across a question mark, and yet they give you so little XP and crafting materials they aren't even worth doing. Compare this to Origins, where it actually makes sense to have a lot of these locations where they are. A military fort might be on a hill, in the middle of the path from a village to a city. A bandit camp might be on the beaten path so it doesn't attract attention. And on the outskirts of civilization, temples and pyramids dot the landscape. And beyond? Emptiness, nothing but a great desert. And Origins immerses you in this desert like no other, spend to long in the empty desert and you will experience hallucinations and mirages.

In Odyssey, there is nowhere that even slightly compares to this. Even in a dense forest, there will be statues, temples, bandit camps, forts, and other locations, everywhere. You seriously will not be able to go 30 seconds on horse in Odyssey without running into something, and even that's pushing it (more like 10 seconds most of the time).

And most of the locations don't even make sense at all, why are there random statues everywhere, off the road and not by civilization? Why are there bandit camps deep in the forest (with no one to prey on)? Why is there a temple on top of the mountain, if there isn't even any village for another 1000m? Don't get me wrong, the world in Odyssey is absolutely awesome, but that's the issue, it's the awesomeness, the need to feel like a fantasy land that brings this world out of realism. It just doesn't make sense most of the time.

Well this was longer than expected, I could continue this rant, but i'm sure this is enough. :ACO_Pyramid:
< >
Showing 1-12 of 12 comments
majzerofive Jul 14, 2020 @ 9:26pm 
Hello,

Both are awful as AC games. AC series died a while ago. AC odyssey is full RPG nothing related to AC, with entities copied to make the world seem bigger, minimum story maximum grinding. Haven't been able to play origins because the game freezes each 3-5 seconds and it is actually common issue for both Odyssey and Origins and there's no unique solution, i've tried many. AC Valhalla is a witcher 3 copy, literally.

I'd say Origins is better just because I wasn't been able to play it and it was released a year before Odyssey. So it makes Origins more close to the point where AC series died and it must be more similar to AC style than Odyssey which is literally the last game that was somewhere related to AC and not witcher like the new Valhalla.

Short version:
Origins > Odyssey,
Witcher 3 > Valhalla.
Last edited by majzerofive; Jul 14, 2020 @ 9:26pm
The author of this thread has indicated that this post answers the original topic.
Dionysus 🐭 Jul 16, 2020 @ 2:09am 
Originally posted by Regina George:
Hello Everyone,

Just curious what your guys' thoughts were on both games. I only ever played Odyssey, but I didn't make it all the way through, it kind of died off for me. But I'm thinking about picking up Origins now as the Egypt setting always seemed interesting, and I haven't actually played Origins at all.

For those of you who have played both games, which do you prefer or think is better? Thanks in advance for all the responses.
For a serious answer, I would say Origins. Odyssey is honestly a great fantasy RPG loot grinder, but definitely not at all like your traditional AC game. The leveling system ensures that you can never just follow the story (because you will eventually become underleveled for it and have to do side quests to level up), they have replaced the upgrading gear system of Origins (which has you hunting for materials to permanently upgrade armor) to the loot grinder system. Even the main quests are 50% filler/fetch quests in Odyssey, just to get you underleveled for the proper story missions (conveniently, the permanent XP boost microtransaction will give you just enough XP to not have to worry about being underleveled for the story, definitely no relation there...).

Origins is mostly not like that, the only thing you might have to worry about is leveling up, but once you actually do, the story missions have no real filler in them. And leveling up itself is extremely easy, the side quests are interesting (most of the time) and can actually give you some really good rewards, exploring a lot of the locations (like the Pyramids) is very rewarding, which you shouldn't do in Odyssey because there is just so much filler in that world and it doesn't give you too much XP.

Speaking of world, I personally like Origin's world better. Odyssey's world is great, but it's less like a historical ancient Greece and more like a fantasy game (especially with the Isu artifacts and abilities, which aren't present in Origins). In Odyssey there isn't any "wilderness", no real emptiness anywhere, you can't go 30 seconds without coming across a question mark, and yet they give you so little XP and crafting materials they aren't even worth doing. Compare this to Origins, where it actually makes sense to have a lot of these locations where they are. A military fort might be on a hill, in the middle of the path from a village to a city. A bandit camp might be on the beaten path so it doesn't attract attention. And on the outskirts of civilization, temples and pyramids dot the landscape. And beyond? Emptiness, nothing but a great desert. And Origins immerses you in this desert like no other, spend to long in the empty desert and you will experience hallucinations and mirages.

In Odyssey, there is nowhere that even slightly compares to this. Even in a dense forest, there will be statues, temples, bandit camps, forts, and other locations, everywhere. You seriously will not be able to go 30 seconds on horse in Odyssey without running into something, and even that's pushing it (more like 10 seconds most of the time).

And most of the locations don't even make sense at all, why are there random statues everywhere, off the road and not by civilization? Why are there bandit camps deep in the forest (with no one to prey on)? Why is there a temple on top of the mountain, if there isn't even any village for another 1000m? Don't get me wrong, the world in Odyssey is absolutely awesome, but that's the issue, it's the awesomeness, the need to feel like a fantasy land that brings this world out of realism. It just doesn't make sense most of the time.

Well this was longer than expected, I could continue this rant, but i'm sure this is enough. :ACO_Pyramid:
Joreel Jul 18, 2020 @ 4:14pm 
Originally posted by Fcu:
Dosent matter cus we wuz kings in both of them

we wuz egypshans and greeks nibba swear god oua ancesta egypt man

yyya tellin me dose egypshans ain't black? luk dey black man

we wu tryina go space man, lemme tell ya man ma grandmamma she part egypshian mate

ya tellin me king tatu tattoo das ma gregregregrandpa mate and ya tellin me deez guys egypshians ain't black?

look man julias cesar wuz black i dunno why in dose history books dey show him white man he wuz black
Did you manage to complete the 4th grade? Your spelling and grammar are atrocious. You might want to consider going back to school and finishing it.
Andi Jul 18, 2020 @ 7:50pm 
Originally posted by Joreel:
Originally posted by Fcu:
Dosent matter cus we wuz kings in both of them

we wuz egypshans and greeks nibba swear god oua ancesta egypt man

yyya tellin me dose egypshans ain't black? luk dey black man

we wu tryina go space man, lemme tell ya man ma grandmamma she part egypshian mate

ya tellin me king tatu tattoo das ma gregregregrandpa mate and ya tellin me deez guys egypshians ain't black?

look man julias cesar wuz black i dunno why in dose history books dey show him white man he wuz black
Did you manage to complete the 4th grade? Your spelling and grammar are atrocious. You might want to consider going back to school and finishing it.
I was thinking the same thing.
eberkain Jul 19, 2020 @ 10:16am 
I can't agree completely with some of the others. The side quests in Origins are not good at all and you are forced to do them to level up your character to do the main quests.

My take is that Origins has a better main story with better cutscenes and characters, Odyssey has a better combat system. Both are such a huge departure from all the previous AC games its hard to put them in the same category. I played all the games over the past month, I would recommend Syndicate first and then Black Flag after that.
Ren†Gen Jul 20, 2020 @ 2:23am 
Odyssey for sure
Rostan Jul 20, 2020 @ 5:59am 
Origins. It is much more immersive and has a better open world. However, Odyssey has more content, more diverse combat (albeit going into the realm of fantasy) and is better optimized (it runs smooth on higher settings, while Origins freezes to all hell for me).
Dionysus 🐭 Jul 20, 2020 @ 10:26am 
Originally posted by Rostan:
Origins. It is much more immersive and has a better open world. However, Odyssey has more content, more diverse combat (albeit going into the realm of fantasy) and is better optimized (it runs smooth on higher settings, while Origins freezes to all hell for me).
The freezing is because of an issue with the new NVIDIA drivers.
Originally posted by aaronth07:
Originally posted by Rostan:
Origins. It is much more immersive and has a better open world. However, Odyssey has more content, more diverse combat (albeit going into the realm of fantasy) and is better optimized (it runs smooth on higher settings, while Origins freezes to all hell for me).
The freezing is because of an issue with the new NVIDIA drivers. [/quohave
have they came out when they are able to fix it?
SimpleMinded Jul 20, 2020 @ 4:10pm 
both are great games:steamhappy:
Alb3rT_pr0 Jul 20, 2020 @ 5:03pm 
Originally posted by imakalliZ:
Originally posted by aaronth07:
The freezing is because of an issue with the new NVIDIA drivers. [/quote
have they came out when they are able to fix it?

Just rollback to 446.14
Last edited by Alb3rT_pr0; Jul 20, 2020 @ 5:04pm
Dionysus 🐭 Jul 21, 2020 @ 3:02am 
Originally posted by imakalliZ:
Originally posted by aaronth07:
The freezing is because of an issue with the new NVIDIA drivers. [/quohave
have they came out when they are able to fix it?
I think they said on the subreddit that it should be this week when the next driver (and supposedly fix) comes out. Though of course it's not set in stone.
< >
Showing 1-12 of 12 comments
Per page: 1530 50

Date Posted: Jul 14, 2020 @ 7:46pm
Posts: 12