Forced to fight Final Boss as Secondary Character

[Blackcompany]

Who in the world thought this was ok? Played 40+ hours as one character. Came to enjoy that character. Get to know it.

And then I have to fight the final boss and indeed finish the game as SOMEONE ELSE?

Cemented it: My final act as an Assassin's Creed player was to forever uninstall Uplay from my computer.

[Pinesal]

Thanks for the spoilers....

[UbiBoat]

Thanks for sharing your feedback on the game, and specifically the ending. In the future, please be sure to mark your posts to indicate they contain spoilers.

[Blackcompany]

Originally posted by Pinesal:

Thanks for the spoilers....

To be fair, the game isnt exactly new. And you ARE on a discussion thread ABOUT the not so new game...

But I will watch out for this going forward. Good point all the same mate.

[Pantherr]

Yeah I never got that either. You play the whole game as Bayek, HE "invents" the hidden ones, HE comes up with their creed and then all of a sudden for some bizarre and stupid reason SHE is the "chosen one"???? That makes no sense to me at all... That was the only thing I really hated about the game... Especially cuz I really did not like Aya AT all...

[Blackcompany]

Originally posted by Pantherr:

Yeah I never got that either. You play the whole game as Bayek, HE "invents" the hidden ones, HE comes up with their creed and then all of a sudden for some bizarre and stupid reason SHE is the "chosen one"???? That makes no sense to me at all... That was the only thing I really hated about the game... Especially cuz I really did not like Aya AT all...

Yeah its all the more infuriating because the rest of the game was the best Ubi has done in a long, long time. New combat. More fluid movement. More engaging characters. Solid lead voice actor....and the Hawk. Man the sheer amount of detail they put into that bird...from flying to landing on Bayek's arm during idle times...

And then, they go and rob all of it of any meaning at the end.

This is NOT how you get female leads to appeal to players. You do that by giving them a part in the whole tale, NOT having them steal the thunder at the end...(looking at Marvel here a moment, because while I am not saying it WILL go that way...it sure COULD do...).

[Pantherr]

Originally posted by Blackcompany:

Originally posted by Pantherr:

Yeah I never got that either. You play the whole game as Bayek, HE "invents" the hidden ones, HE comes up with their creed and then all of a sudden for some bizarre and stupid reason SHE is the "chosen one"???? That makes no sense to me at all... That was the only thing I really hated about the game... Especially cuz I really did not like Aya AT all...

Yeah its all the more infuriating because the rest of the game was the best Ubi has done in a long, long time. New combat. More fluid movement. More engaging characters. Solid lead voice actor....and the Hawk. Man the sheer amount of detail they put into that bird...from flying to landing on Bayek's arm during idle times...

And then, they go and rob all of it of any meaning at the end.

This is NOT how you get female leads to appeal to players. You do that by giving them a part in the whole tale, NOT having them steal the thunder at the end...(looking at Marvel here a moment, because while I am not saying it WILL go that way...it sure COULD do...).

I could not agree more mate... Origins has been a fantastic game. The size of the world the detail and the acting is incredible. However to me it ONLY an origin story, the birth of the Assassins, but not a true AC game. All the new elements are great and I hope it continues in future games, but I also hope they return to making "true" Assassin's Creed games. Also whilst I don't have the little mouse icon that says I have this game, I DO have ALL AC games released on PC but they are all thru Uplay, not steam... I just prefer these forums.

[NuclearSnail]

Yeah and the main character bayek isn't really the most interesting. Aya was actually the creator of the creed, and the only reason it survived. But we have to slog around as the guy from the crow 2 city of angels for like what 150 hours??? Stupid choice ubisoft.

[Blackcompany]

Originally posted by SpaceBones:

Yeah and the main character bayek isn't really the most interesting. Aya was actually the creator of the creed, and the only reason it survived. But we have to slog around as the guy from the crow 2 city of angels for like what 150 hours??? Stupid choice ubisoft.

Thats another perspective on it: We actually spent the bulk of the game playing as the sidekick. Without the "hero" even being present.

Which, yes, is sort of dumb.

Regardless, I for one have had enough of Ubisoft's crap writing. I skipped Far Cry 5 because I already knew the story and its associated missions would be unforgivably obnoxious. So, no reason to keep Uplay around any longer...tiered of being let down.

[Zorro]

Originally posted by Blackcompany:

Originally posted by SpaceBones:

Yeah and the main character bayek isn't really the most interesting. Aya was actually the creator of the creed, and the only reason it survived. But we have to slog around as the guy from the crow 2 city of angels for like what 150 hours??? Stupid choice ubisoft.

Thats another perspective on it: We actually spent the bulk of the game playing as the sidekick. Without the "hero" even being present.

Which, yes, is sort of dumb.

Regardless, I for one have had enough of Ubisoft's crap writing. I skipped Far Cry 5 because I already knew the story and its associated missions would be unforgivably obnoxious. So, no reason to keep Uplay around any longer...tiered of being let down.

I finished the main quest in Origins several hundred hours ago. The game is best as an exploration game. I have more fun watching an entire garrison die of poisoning then I did playing any of the quests (with the exception of Curse of the Pharaohs' main quest - that was Witcher 3 quality storytelling).

[Blackcompany]

Originally posted by Zorro:

Originally posted by Blackcompany:

Thats another perspective on it: We actually spent the bulk of the game playing as the sidekick. Without the "hero" even being present.

Which, yes, is sort of dumb.

Regardless, I for one have had enough of Ubisoft's crap writing. I skipped Far Cry 5 because I already knew the story and its associated missions would be unforgivably obnoxious. So, no reason to keep Uplay around any longer...tiered of being let down.

I finished the main quest in Origins several hundred hours ago. The game is best as an exploration game. I have more fun watching an entire garrison die of poisoning then I did playing any of the quests (with the exception of Curse of the Pharaohs' main quest - that was Witcher 3 quality storytelling).

Ubisoft keeps making this same mistake every game: Give the player a ton of fun side activities with very few restrictions...and then force them to stop partaking of these and go play "story missions" constantly.

These story missions are almost universally worse than the side activities. More restrictive. More concerned with presenting set pieces than engaging game play.

Ubisoft needs to find the courage to drop "story missions" from their open world games. Just give us a big bad guy, a few main henchman and an underboss of two...and then drop us into the world and let us follow clues and make our way through to the big bad. May as well do this, as their story missions are universally bad compared to their side stuff.

[Pantherr]

Originally posted by SpaceBones:

Yeah and the main character bayek isn't really the most interesting. Aya was actually the creator of the creed, and the only reason it survived. But we have to slog around as the guy from the crow 2 city of angels for like what 150 hours??? Stupid choice ubisoft.

Aya did not create the creed,,or the "Hidden Ones",,, Bayek did. It was ALL his idea, all she did was open a bureau in Memphis. Even as a result of what happened in 1st dlc, Bayek adds another "rule" to the creed that HE came up with...

[meep_meep]

But that's not the final boss. That's epilogue content. "F" is the final boss...

[lievenmaselis]

Originally posted by Unquestionable Presence:

But that's not the final boss. That's epilogue content. "F" is the final boss...

tip: final bosses usually come at the end. An entire mission dedicated to them makes them final bosses. And it was really dumb to play an entire game as Bayek and not even give him a suiting farewell at the end of the game. They gave that to Aya, a character that has literally done nothing.

[meep_meep]

Originally posted by lievenmaselis:

Originally posted by Unquestionable Presence:

But that's not the final boss. That's epilogue content. "F" is the final boss...

tip: final bosses usually come at the end. An entire mission dedicated to them makes them final bosses. And it was really dumb to play an entire game as Bayek and not even give him a suiting farewell at the end of the game. They gave that to Aya, a character that has literally done nothing.

I dunno, it worked well in the story given that Aya was always the one who was more involved with the political mechanations of the empire. Bayek was always more about shooting dudes in the desert.

[lievenmaselis]

Originally posted by Unquestionable Presence:

Originally posted by lievenmaselis:

tip: final bosses usually come at the end. An entire mission dedicated to them makes them final bosses. And it was really dumb to play an entire game as Bayek and not even give him a suiting farewell at the end of the game. They gave that to Aya, a character that has literally done nothing.

I dunno, it worked well in the story given that Aya was always the one who was more involved with the political mechanations of the empire. Bayek was always more about shooting dudes in the desert.

Bayek was doing all the hard work in the field being there where people needed help and winning over hearts and minds. Aya, if you paid attention to the story a bit ,did not initiate ANY of the political machinations. That was all the entourage of Cleopatra or Cleo herself. At best she was nothing more but an elevated bodyguard. She was an extremely badly written character and nothing more than a feminist power fantasy.

whenever she and Bayek share scenes, all she does is lecture him while having to prove nothing of her ability herself. For all the things she lectured him about she couldnt prove that she would be doing it better. The feminist dream come true.