I get very high CPU temperatures!! Assassins Creed Origins!

[talkamania]

Hey guys,

I was always wandering why I always had these microstutters in Assassins Creed Origins.
But first my system

GPU: Geforce GTX 970 4 GB
CPU: Intel I7 4790 k
System: Win 10 32
RAM: 8 GB RAM
All latest drivers are installed

So heres the deal:

I have all graphic settings in ACOrigins on Medium, so it should run fine. However I'm getting frame drops to 40 occassionally. Now I opened MSI Afterburner to check my stats:

So GPU temperature is always around 60-70 Grad Celsius (158 Grad Fahrenheit) and GPU load is also very high 80-90 %.

But what concers me most is my CPU.
When playing CPU Workload is always in the 90s-100s. But my CPU temperature is always at 99-100 Grad Celsius (around 212 Fahrenheit). So what can I do, i dont want to crash my PC?

Stuff in my PC is all built by a PC expert. I have one cooler on the site, one cooler at the back, and thats it. The PC expert said it should be fine. What can I do?

[Viper]

Opprinnelig skrevet av FastStone:

Ok i run the game now a bit_

the CPU temperature stayed at a solid 60-65 Grad

But now the CPU and GPU Usage is in the high 90-100. Is that bad now?

@Viper:

So you saying it helped nothing? But why does MSI Afterburner say now that its only 60 Grad, even If im playing. Dont you think it changed something?

And about the fan control. But in afterburner theres only for the graphiccard, how can I control the fan for the CPU, and what should I set?

That video was telling you to change you power setting in WIndows right. I did not watch all of it. You say you are running Afterburner. This might actually be part of your problem. Afterburner can take control of your fans . Is possible if you turn on manual fan control and don't set up a fan curve to mess up your fans..

Go here and see if it is set for manual fan control

- Settings
- Fan
- manual fan control

Setting up a custom fan curve might be a good idea in your case:

http://www.overclock.net/t/646422/how-to-adjust-your-fan-curve-in-msi-afterburner

[Mike]

Gotta love a game thats a CPU fan benchmark tester :)

[Tusnayoshi]

This FastStone dude sounds like a nice mate. I hope you solve your problem. Meanwhile, you are learning a lot about hardware. I started this way.

Anyway, the game has got double layered protection inside, which is causing almost every single cpu, even the recommended, to hit high temperatures. Come back to play AC some other time, it is what I suggest. Good luck!

Glad to see Steam people being kind and attentive.

[talkamania]

Thanks Hanuo, Rantoc and Viper.

Really appreciate the help.

1 @Viper, Hanuo, Rantoc
.Now my first question is, because of that Youtube Video, and because now Afterburner shows 60 Grad Celsius in Asssassins Creed Origins. Can I run Origins now without any doubts? Or could that video be a fraud, and Afterburner is just showing me wrong data? Maybe someone can watch the short youtube video, and tell me if this is true or not. Would really appreciate it, because then I could play without being scared of destroying my hardware. BTW, CPU and GPU Usage remains in high 90-100.

2. @Viper
yea its set to manual. Theres a curve someone showed me a while ago, and i copied the curve and have it now. Fan speed is on Auto. But the fan control we talking here is only for the GPU . Where can I have the control for the CPU?

[Mike]

I would check up the CPU cooling so you don't have dust buildup in the radiator/heatsink preventing the airflow (Should be done about 2x a year depending on how dusty the enviroment the puter is in). The 4790 is a temp beast thoo especially if overclocked. If im not misstaken the 4790 starts to throttle at >=90c so with thoose temp i would def look into the cooling. If dust buildup, get one of the compressed air (well usually really gas but marketed as air....) canister and blow it away!

If that don't solve your CPU thermals try to ramp up the CPU fan curve faster (if your cooler/bios allows it) and if that's fixed, dont forget that normal CPU coolers needs air flow in a normal chassis too. Seen examples of high end fan CPU coolers beeing hindered by the chassis airflows before.

The risk of frying a modern PC due to slow heat build up (and by slow i mean normal non excessive overvolting overclock) is negitable, sure you can get some throtteling if the cooling dont work properly but thats usually it.

Built well over 30pc's over the years and have yet to see a single one up and die due to thermals and i'we been overclocking quite abit thoo (not extreme but for maxed 24/7 substained).

Just saw in an earlier post you already cleaned it out... :)

[talkamania]

@Rantoc

Thanks man yeah i cleaned up the whole inside of my pc and removed all the dust this morning. It seemd to be a bit louder now, dont know why.

But after watching this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRaxrOsRtzA

I tried it out, and now I have (until now, 30 minutes in game) around 60-65 Clesius degrees in AC origins, which should be fine right?
My question is, can this video really solve the whole issue, or is it only temporary and goes up fast?

[TTV_Kryptical]

You shouldn't NEED to do anything in that video.The temps you're getting is an issue from the games end and about what is running in the background of their software.
I'm running the same CPU except with a h100 liquid cooler.
On 2k settings my cpu is hitting 85 Celsius

[talkamania]

@kryptical

yeah I know, and in a week I will buy a new cooler and the paste.
But the question is, since I tried that Solution in the VIDEO and it worked, can I , until then, play the game with the settings, without having fear of crashing my system?
I mean if MSI afterburner says its 65 Celsius, it should be true right? So the video worked, and I dont have to care so much about the temperatures at the moment right?
And I mean before I tried the solution in the video MSI showed me 100 Celsius, so thats a huge improvement. Im only hoping its not just showing, but actually works!

[[NCE] Mykero]

Opprinnelig skrevet av c313:

Opprinnelig skrevet av FastStone:

There was a paste on the CPU but I didnt remove it

So wait you removed the fan without adding new paste? That's actually pretty bad to do.

But in general, you want a better cooler. If you're not looking to spend a lot and get great cooling I'd recommend the Hyper 212 EVO. It comes with paste so all you need to do is order the cooler.

Yea, you pretty much ruined the paste that was already on there. I recommend you apply new paste(i recommend artic silver) as soon as possible.

[duEprocEss]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Kryptical:

You shouldn't NEED to do anything in that video.The temps you're getting is an issue from the games end and about what is running in the background of their software.
I'm running the same CPU except with a h100 liquid cooler.
On 2k settings my cpu is hitting 85 Celsius

False. If your CPU is overheating at 100% usage, then you have a cooling problem. It doesn't matter if it's a game or whatever program you are using, you have a cooling problem.

Origins has an issue with pushing everyone's CPU to 100% usage though, this is true.

[Mike]

Opprinnelig skrevet av FastStone:

@Rantoc

Thanks man yeah i cleaned up the whole inside of my pc and removed all the dust this morning. It seemd to be a bit louder now, dont know why.

But after watching this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRaxrOsRtzA

I tried it out, and now I have (until now, 30 minutes in game) around 60-65 Clesius degrees in AC origins, which should be fine right?
My question is, can this video really solve the whole issue, or is it only temporary and goes up fast?

They can get louder as the dust wont absorb the soundwaves and due to the fact that air runs through it rather than stay in the fan house or the software that speeds up the fans more rapidly.

IMO when it comes to CPU temps - Keep the thermals a fair bit below throttle and have some headroom of seasonal changes (if in a place where say the summer causes much higher temps) and you should be golden. That temp you reported is fine

[talkamania]

@dueprocess.

ok my CPU and GPU Usage is still in the high 90s, does that mean I cant play the game anymore?

And what do you think about the Youtube Video, and the resulting temperature drop from 100 celsius to 65?? Can that be true?

Ok I will remove the paste in 3-4 days, I hope until then it will work.

[talkamania]

@Rantoc

Thanks man. But do you think this program could solve it ? Because the CPU and GPU Usage is still in the high 90s.

♥♥♥♥ and about the paste, i really liftet the fan and had the paste on my hand, should really replace it as fast as I can.

But if you tell me the temp is fine, i play Origins without worry ok? :)

[TTV_Kryptical]

Opprinnelig skrevet av duEprocEss:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Kryptical:

You shouldn't NEED to do anything in that video.The temps you're getting is an issue from the games end and about what is running in the background of their software.
I'm running the same CPU except with a h100 liquid cooler.
On 2k settings my cpu is hitting 85 Celsius

False. If your CPU is overheating at 100% usage, then you have a cooling problem. It doesn't matter if it's a game or whatever program you are using, you have a cooling problem.

Origins has an issue with pushing everyone's CPU to 100% usage though, this is true.

I've tested this game on an open air test bench PC with an i7 7700k on stock clock with a Noctua NH-D15 with the same issues. The temps were slightly lower than mine but still hitting 80-81 on average. It might not be effecting ALL users but theres an issue with the game.

For some it will 100% be a cooling issue, bad cooling is obviously not going to help but it's not just that.

[duEprocEss]

Opprinnelig skrevet av FastStone:

@dueprocess.

ok my CPU and GPU Usage is still in the high 90s, does that mean I cant play the game anymore?

And what do you think about the Youtube Video, and the resulting temperature drop from 100 celsius to 65?? Can that be true?

Ok I will remove the paste in 3-4 days, I hope until then it will work.

You can still play the game and most likely find it enjoyable if you put up with the high CPU usage. I hope Ubisoft can do something about it in a patch. Here's hoping!

The video is misguided. What that person is showing you is how to make your CPU max out at a lower percentage. Yes, of course, this will definitely lower your temperatures when the CPU is at full load. That video fails to explain why the temperatures are lowered. You will get worse performance with this modification in games that are CPU bound, especially AC Origins which likes to max out your CPU.