Why is mostly everybody say AC4 was the best Assassin's Creed?

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I honestly felt like that game wasn't even Assassin's Creed. It was just boating.

[zLOCKEz]

Agreed. It was a great game, but never felt like an AC game. Hell, I didn't even bother playing it as a stealthy assassin. It was all swashbuckling and belligerent pirating.

[Lanzagranadas]

You may mean mostly in these forums say ACIV is the best, because this place is now filled with people who don't like AC or that even just come here to join the hate/troll bandwagon. So for them, Black Flag is usually the best since it's actually a pirate game with the Assassin theme shoehorned into it.

Black Flag was pretty fun and it did add some interesting ideas, but it fails bad in the long run. It suffers from the typical AC syndrome: too much repetition, poor side missions and generic activities that become boring in the long run, but to make it worse: too much sailing. And the main story isn't great either.

I wouldn't replay Black Flag honestly. In fact, if anything I would replay Rogue instead, which is very similar but has a more interesting story, better character development and progression, and since its shorter you don't end up repeating the same things that much. So it's pretty much a condensed Black Flag which goes more to the point and pays more attention to certain things that actually matter.

[bgray9054]

AC4 was definitely one of the best, IMO - but as mentioned, the weakness was how the Assassin brotherhood wasn't really tied in for Edward until about 90% through the game. Edward was a character they absolutely should have done 2 or 3 games for - after Black Flag he actually heads back to England and starts setting up the England Assassins - that should have been the "London" game instead of Syndicate as Edward was just a fantastic character and the voice actor did a great job as well.

[Moopheus]

Originally posted by Lanzagranadas:

You may mean mostly in these forums say ACIV is the best, because this place is now filled with people who don't like AC or that even just come here to join the hate/troll bandwagon. So for them, Black Flag is usually the best since it's actually a pirate game with the Assassin theme shoehorned into it.

Black Flag was pretty fun and it did add some interesting ideas, but it fails bad in the long run. It suffers from the typical AC syndrome: too much repetition, poor side missions and generic activities that become boring in the long run, but to make it worse: too much sailing. And the main story isn't great either.

I wouldn't replay Black Flag honestly. In fact, if anything I would replay Rogue instead, which is very similar but has a more interesting story, better character development and progression, and since its shorter you don't end up repeating the same things that much. So it's pretty much a condensed Black Flag which goes more to the point and pays more attention to certain things that actually matter.

I completely lost it at "TOO MUCH SAILING" ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[Maxfarace]

Originally posted by ReDeYe RaideR:

Originally posted by Lanzagranadas:

You may mean mostly in these forums say ACIV is the best, because this place is now filled with people who don't like AC or that even just come here to join the hate/troll bandwagon. So for them, Black Flag is usually the best since it's actually a pirate game with the Assassin theme shoehorned into it.

Black Flag was pretty fun and it did add some interesting ideas, but it fails bad in the long run. It suffers from the typical AC syndrome: too much repetition, poor side missions and generic activities that become boring in the long run, but to make it worse: too much sailing. And the main story isn't great either.

I wouldn't replay Black Flag honestly. In fact, if anything I would replay Rogue instead, which is very similar but has a more interesting story, better character development and progression, and since its shorter you don't end up repeating the same things that much. So it's pretty much a condensed Black Flag which goes more to the point and pays more attention to certain things that actually matter.

I completely lost it at "TOO MUCH SAILING" ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Yea I know, I guess he really didn't play the game. It's called fast traveling. You don't have to sail everywhere.

But i do agree it's a game that you can only play and enjoy once or twice (if you really loved it), because of the repetition of the side quests. However (IMO), the main story was fantastic, I thought it was really well developed and it was a break from the original 3 Assassin Creeds.

[Lanzagranadas]

Originally posted by Maxfarace:

Originally posted by ReDeYe RaideR:

I completely lost it at "TOO MUCH SAILING" ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Yea I know, I guess he really didn't play the game. It's called fast traveling. You don't have to sail everywhere.

Oh yeah, there's not too much sailing:

http://www.jp.guihard.net/IMG/jpg/map-social-events.jpg

It's not like Black Flag had tons of islands, naval fortresses, treasures, random ship battles, naval contracts and plenty of sea-related activities. Plus in order to unlock fast travel points you must manually reach those areas by yourself first, you can't just teleport anywhere anytime. And you can't use fast travel while you're in the middle of a mission either.

[Maxfarace]

Originally posted by Lanzagranadas:

Originally posted by Maxfarace:

Yea I know, I guess he really didn't play the game. It's called fast traveling. You don't have to sail everywhere.

Oh yeah, there's not too much sailing:

http://www.jp.guihard.net/IMG/jpg/map-social-events.jpg

It's not like Black Flag had tons of islands, naval fortresses, treasures, random ship battles, naval contracts and plenty of sea-related activities. Plus in order to unlock fast travel points you must manually reach those areas by yourself first, you can't just teleport anywhere anytime. And you can't use fast travel while you're in the middle of a mission either.

Well yea obviously. But once you have been there once you can keep fast traveling, and unless you want to 100% the game you don't have to do all the naval contracts.

[Maxfarace]

Originally posted by VXRNoctua:

Why do you fk'in care about other people and their interests?
> Wow, goes to show you have no *self-value*, let me guess..
> If the Trashy Bible didn't exist, you would be dead? FK'in Fraud.

You on the right forum? Pretty sure that has no relevance to this post

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Originally posted by VXRNoctua:

Why do you fk'in care about other people and their interests?
> Wow, goes to show you have no *self-value*, let me guess..
> If the Trashy Bible didn't exist, you would be dead? FK'in Fraud.

What's the harm in "wanting to know"? And I would like to know why you care about me caring about what people say?

[Jamison]

Originally posted by Lanzagranadas:

You may mean mostly in these forums say ACIV is the best, because this place is now filled with people who don't like AC...

^^^This

It is also interesting that the newest AC game to be closest to what AC is, was the most hated...Unity.

Unity had it's bugs, campy love story. But the black box missions, cafe missions, social club missions, and paris story missions were very much what AC is. Analyzing the enviroment, planning out your execution, using strategy. With the combat system in Unity, it encouraged you to use stealth.

I will get alot of slack for this...but, black flag, while being a fun game in general, is the byproduct of a game company foregoing it's fanbase, and trying to get as many general users as they can for the $$$.

In my opinion, when a game franchise slides too far away from it's core (not saying AC is), then that is when the franchise dies. General users will hop on whatever is cool at the moment and move on, the loyal fanbase is what keeps games alive.

[Tigershark1968]

I like them all. Diversity...it's a great thing. The fact I just got a new computer and I am downloading every AC title back onto my hard drive so I can play them all again...speaks volumes of how good this game series is. I've never understood the rage. It takes a game like EA's Battlefield 3 or 4 to get me going. :D

[adam west]

i honeslty didnt like much black flag, i didnt finish it yet,i like AC series becouse of the historical reconstruction of cities, and BF didnt look very historical to me.

[✪Raize17]

It's historical part is the characters only. Since pirates have a vague personal history they were resticted to characters' name and attitude.

[bgray9054]

Originally posted by adam west:

i honeslty didnt like much black flag, i didnt finish it yet,i like AC series becouse of the historical reconstruction of cities, and BF didnt look very historical to me.

Ya, and remember the setting is the caribbean, so it's not as many buildings, etc. it's more just the water, islands, etc. I loved Kingston - thought the buildings there looked awesome, felt like I was really there with the music and everything.

[Victoria Raverna]

AC4 is probably not the best AC game, but it was the best pirate game so far. :)