Damage Counter mods?

[Mister of Battle]

Hey all, I was wondering if theres a good mod for this game that can track damage done. (thats only what my group care about) But ive seen posted in places that mods were made obsolete now?

[kl250d]

Originally posted by Hammer Of Evil:

Originally posted by kl250d:

Literally a damage counter can help you improve and anybody good at anything should want to improve

stop coping. knowing the monster's next attack (which it tells you) and the abilities it has charging, its remaining hp, etc and its timers is absolutely cheating.

Originally posted by I'm Dog Water at Apex:

I have 2000 hours on console to full completion.
All i wanted was a mod to see how my and my groups damage compared to each other.
Lol thats no cheating. I can also solo anything in this game anyway, but its fun for our group to try and beat each other out on dmg

analysing your damage isn't an issue, its the other stuff the mod shows you which is considered cheating.

play the way you want, but don't try to lie about it not being cheating.

Originally posted by Shady™:

How can a "Damage meter" be cheating.?,there's even a damage meter in the training area SMH

it tells you the upcoming monster attacks, its phase, attitudes and ability usages, and hp remaining. its absolutely cheating.

the dps by itself, not an issue.

but guys try to say its not cheating because they 'don't have time to look at it.' - BS. after a few 100 hrs, you have the monster's moves completely memorized and can carry on a conversation and sip a drink while you're slaying it.

Originally posted by Canadian Normandy:

all of these people claiming an info mod is cheating must hate endgame mmo raids, if you dont have info mods youre considered a noob.

iirc mmo's usually give you the damage dealt in a damage / battle status window normally provided to players - the tool just summarizes it.

none of the mmo raid tools tell you the exact series of attacks coming up - the monster hunter dps meter does. In mmo, the monster hp is usually fixed. in mhw the hp is varied given a few conditions, and is not readily available for the player to know about.

knowing about stuff the game doesn't give you normally, IS CHEATING. GG.

Buddy i downloaded a damage metre last night, turned everything on and it didnt tell me what the monsters next attack was it sounds like you are making stuff up now.

Whats next damage counters rob people too?

Also your counter to the argument that it helps you improve how you play is that after a few hundred hours you have the monsters moves memorised and can sip a drink while slaying it? Thats sounds like a huge amount of improvement?

If I've memorised its attack pattern why would i need any damage counter anymore?

[Hammer Of Evil]

Originally posted by kl250d:

Originally posted by Hammer Of Evil:

stop coping. knowing the monster's next attack (which it tells you) and the abilities it has charging, its remaining hp, etc and its timers is absolutely cheating.



analysing your damage isn't an issue, its the other stuff the mod shows you which is considered cheating.

play the way you want, but don't try to lie about it not being cheating.



it tells you the upcoming monster attacks, its phase, attitudes and ability usages, and hp remaining. its absolutely cheating.

the dps by itself, not an issue.

but guys try to say its not cheating because they 'don't have time to look at it.' - BS. after a few 100 hrs, you have the monster's moves completely memorized and can carry on a conversation and sip a drink while you're slaying it.




iirc mmo's usually give you the damage dealt in a damage / battle status window normally provided to players - the tool just summarizes it.

none of the mmo raid tools tell you the exact series of attacks coming up - the monster hunter dps meter does. In mmo, the monster hp is usually fixed. in mhw the hp is varied given a few conditions, and is not readily available for the player to know about.

knowing about stuff the game doesn't give you normally, IS CHEATING. GG.

Buddy i downloaded a damage metre last night, turned everything on and it didnt tell me what the monsters next attack was it sounds like you are making stuff up now.

then you didn't download the one that was originally being discussed.

i wouldn't expect you to know the difference between different mods and cheating though with your attempt to divert the discussion.

again, if you use a mod that gives you information / play advantage that the game does not give you already, it is cheating.

end statement.

[kl250d]

Originally posted by Hammer Of Evil:

Originally posted by kl250d:

Buddy i downloaded a damage metre last night, turned everything on and it didnt tell me what the monsters next attack was it sounds like you are making stuff up now.

then you didn't download the one that was originally being discussed.

i wouldn't expect you to know the difference between different mods and cheating though with your attempt to divert the discussion.

again, if you use a mod that gives you information / play advantage that the game does not give you already, it is cheating.

end statement.

Rich statement from someone that equates reading to cheating in a combat game

[Casscette]

Give him a break, at an early stage of life he realized that nature doesn't provide educational facilities, and that those are nothing more than societal QoL mods, and he strictly avoided those cause that would of been cheating.

Hes special.

[Mister of Battle]

This sure has devolved from what I originally asked... If you dont like mods, dont use them, if you do, cool! I hope you all enjoy playing the game your own way and stop caring so much about how other people enjoy the game.

[Mez Koo]

Originally posted by Casscette:

Give him a break, at an early stage of life he realized that nature doesn't provide educational facilities, and that those are nothing more than societal QoL mods, and he strictly avoided those cause that would of been cheating.

Hes special.

No he's not special just tons of people coming out of the woodworks because either they didn't know about mods and now realize there are so many "cheaters" or people that knew about mods but are now taking capcom's stance as "official declaration" that people using mods are cheaters. I personally do think that the hud mods are a bit on the cheaty side giving you info that you wouldn't otherwise have unless you're an extreme veteran that counts their damage and status effects on the monster to plan out all their attacks but either way who the hell cares? It doesn't effect anyone else and no one else knows you're doing it and it is basically the equivalent of counting cards at a casino.

[MarcoPants]

Originally posted by Hammer Of Evil:

Originally posted by kl250d:

Buddy i downloaded a damage metre last night, turned everything on and it didnt tell me what the monsters next attack was it sounds like you are making stuff up now.

then you didn't download the one that was originally being discussed.

i wouldn't expect you to know the difference between different mods and cheating though with your attempt to divert the discussion.

again, if you use a mod that gives you information / play advantage that the game does not give you already, it is cheating.

end statement.

Hunterpie (probably the one many people use as I've seen it discussed frequently) is highly configurable and any part of it can be turned on, off, and moved around your screen however you want. the dps meter/damage chart and monster status hud are two separate widgets and do not have to be used with one another. I should know. I've got the monster info permanently turned off while the damage chart remains on. All this ♥♥♥♥ you're whinging about with people knowing monster health, stagger/stun/partbreak buildup, and incoming moves means jack all to more honest players like me

[Casscette]

Originally posted by Mez Koo:

Originally posted by Casscette:

Give him a break, at an early stage of life he realized that nature doesn't provide educational facilities, and that those are nothing more than societal QoL mods, and he strictly avoided those cause that would of been cheating.

Hes special.

No he's not special just tons of people coming out of the woodworks because either they didn't know about mods and now realize there are so many "cheaters" or people that knew about mods but are now taking capcom's stance as "official declaration" that people using mods are cheaters. I personally do think that the hud mods are a bit on the cheaty side giving you info that you wouldn't otherwise have unless you're an extreme veteran that counts their damage and status effects on the monster to plan out all their attacks but either way who the hell cares? It doesn't effect anyone else and no one else knows you're doing it
and it is basically the equivalent of counting cards at a casino.

Knowing how much hp the monster has left or how much damage Elton John is doing won't give you any advantage that an actual cheat could.

[kl250d]

Originally posted by Casscette:

Originally posted by Mez Koo:

No he's not special just tons of people coming out of the woodworks because either they didn't know about mods and now realize there are so many "cheaters" or people that knew about mods but are now taking capcom's stance as "official declaration" that people using mods are cheaters. I personally do think that the hud mods are a bit on the cheaty side giving you info that you wouldn't otherwise have unless you're an extreme veteran that counts their damage and status effects on the monster to plan out all their attacks but either way who the hell cares? It doesn't effect anyone else and no one else knows you're doing it
and it is basically the equivalent of counting cards at a casino.

Knowing how much hp the monster has left or how much damage Elton John is doing won't give you any advantage that an actual cheat could.

If knowing how much hp the monster has is cheating, then technically looking at the wiki is also cheating

[Casscette]

Originally posted by kl250d:

Originally posted by Casscette:

Knowing how much hp the monster has left or how much damage Elton John is doing won't give you any advantage that an actual cheat could.

If knowing how much hp the monster has is cheating, then technically looking at the wiki is also cheating

Same applies if you watch a guide / tutorial / build video.

[Mez Koo]

Originally posted by Casscette:

Originally posted by Mez Koo:

No he's not special just tons of people coming out of the woodworks because either they didn't know about mods and now realize there are so many "cheaters" or people that knew about mods but are now taking capcom's stance as "official declaration" that people using mods are cheaters. I personally do think that the hud mods are a bit on the cheaty side giving you info that you wouldn't otherwise have unless you're an extreme veteran that counts their damage and status effects on the monster to plan out all their attacks but either way who the hell cares? It doesn't effect anyone else and no one else knows you're doing it
and it is basically the equivalent of counting cards at a casino.

Knowing how much hp the monster has left or how much damage Elton John is doing won't give you any advantage that an actual cheat could.

Of course not but said hud mods also tell you how close they are to becoming enraged, tired, drooling, status effect, if a part is going to break, etc. Like I said its information you have that others wouldn't and can make more informed decisions or plans of attack with said information but I don't really care. I get why people who call it cheating but its really not, like I said its card counting. People don't like it because it can give you an predictive advantage but its not really cheating.

[Casscette]

I am hitting monster
It angy
I continue hitting monster (angy)

[Agoraphobic Meep]

Originally posted by Hammer Of Evil:

Originally posted by kl250d:

Buddy i downloaded a damage metre last night, turned everything on and it didnt tell me what the monsters next attack was it sounds like you are making stuff up now.

then you didn't download the one that was originally being discussed.

i wouldn't expect you to know the difference between different mods and cheating though with your attempt to divert the discussion.

again, if you use a mod that gives you information / play advantage that the game does not give you already, it is cheating.

end statement.

Unless your teammate is like, posting damage numbers in chat to try and look better than you like a cringelord, ignore them and focus on your own enjoyment of the game man. I have no idea how so many people ♥♥♥♥♥ and moan about mods that don't affect them. Personally, I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hate gambling on getting good or bad teammates in random lobbies nowadays, and I don't see the issue with having a marginally more helpful hunting mate even if they are using a tool I don't have.

Knowing the general skill of the playerbase, I also doubt most people using mods like this are even capable of seriously capitalizing on info like thresholds or upcoming moves if they're installing them in the first place. Info huds aren't going to save you from bad positioning and a lack of actual monster knowledge in the end, and most competent players memorize monster behaviors and have rough ideas of thresholds as is anyways.

[FuyuNoSora]

Originally posted by I'm Dog Water at Apex:

This sure has devolved from what I originally asked... If you dont like mods, dont use them, if you do, cool! I hope you all enjoy playing the game your own way and stop caring so much about how other people enjoy the game.

I don't see it that way, your thread was asking about how to obtain a mod - something that is actually illegal and disturbs online play for others. So I made sure that newcomers are aware of what mods do to games. It is similar to the question about Defender Gear, although legal, it actually destroys the gaming experience, nothing wrong with pointing that out.

[MarcoPants]

Originally posted by FuyuNoSora:

I don't see it that way, your thread was asking about how to obtain a mod - something that is actually illegal and disturbs online play for others.

Ah yes, client side mods like the various armor mods or a dps meter totally disturb the others that can’t tell they’re there