Dual Blades vs AT Velkhana?

[Loren]

How good a matchup are dual blades against AT Velkhana? Can it be considered "great"? If you know could you please advise?

[Mr. September]

Very good. I used nothing but Dual Blades against AT Velk so far, in fact.

[Loren]

Originally posted by Mr. September:

Very good. I used nothing but Dual Blades against AT Velk so far, in fact.

Thank you. Is it the best option though? Do you know what is the best option for AT Velk? I am looking exactly for a "great" matchup.

[Tebza Ngwana]

Originally posted by Loren:

Originally posted by Mr. September:

Very good. I used nothing but Dual Blades against AT Velk so far, in fact.

Thank you. Is it the best option though? Do you know what is the best option for AT Velk? I am looking exactly for a "great" matchup.

I beat her with a insect glaive, but not after 4 tries, afterwards it was easier, but i also have evade window which made things alot more easier. insect glaive is surprisingly mobile like the sword and shield but with more damage output.

[Loren]

Originally posted by Tebza Ngwana:

insect glaive, but not after 4 tries,

Try lance mate. It feels harder than fatalis.

[Tebza Ngwana]

Originally posted by Loren:

Originally posted by Tebza Ngwana:

insect glaive, but not after 4 tries,

Try lance mate. It feels harder than fatalis.

i'll try lance on fatalis. been in my mind for some time now.

[Loren]

Originally posted by Tebza Ngwana:

Originally posted by Loren:

Try lance mate. It feels harder than fatalis.

i'll try lance on fatalis. been in my mind for some time now.

Actually it is a good matchup. That is until he smashes you with his bosom at his third stage. Keep BOTH binding balista ammo for third phase.

Now what about AT Velk?

[Mr. September]

I got Kjarr Daggers "Rage" because nothing else has decent fire damage in the DB tree.

This is what I run[imgur.com] (with Health Regen 1 and Element 2 augments)

[Anoyun?]

use dragon element not fire.

[Loren]

Element can be discussed. But are Dual Blades themselves a great match for AT Velk? If not what is?

[Meenik (ミー二ク）]

I'd say all weapons are viable, but some will make fights easier than others. I assume you'll be able to reach its head still, so I'd say it's fine. It is trial and error, like me with CB and HH against ATV

[Loren]

Originally posted by Meenik (ミー二ク）:

I'd say all weapons are viable, but some will make fights easier than others.

Yea. But that does not say something new. So is DB a great matchup? Or what is? I will replay the game with a new weapon. I will drop the lance. Only monster I didn't beat is AT Velk. I won't pickup a weaker match for him.

[𝓚𝔂𝓸𝔂𝓪]

Originally posted by Loren:

Originally posted by Meenik (ミー二ク）:

I'd say all weapons are viable, but some will make fights easier than others.

Yea. But that does not say something new. So is DB a great matchup? Or what is? I will replay the game with a new weapon. I will drop the lance. Only monster I didn't beat is AT Velk. I won't pickup a weaker match for him.

since AT velk always spawn those icey ground around them whenever the ice mantle is active, u can spam Heavenly blade dance a lot on the hunt. dual blade is very satisfying to use againts Velk. the only annoying thing that i can think of is : since dual blades actively uses stamina, Ice Blight is definitely going to be a problem so just make sure to avoid getting those blights, i also usually dont spam blade dance a lot since AT Velk is very aggresive and u need a good position to do it (usually i do it whenever AT Velk Arc ice breath)

also make sure to up those evade window and Constitution (atleast 3 cons), so u can be a dodge god and move around like a chad around AT Velk

[Loren]

Thank you for great tactics. But my question was how good are dual blades against AT Velkhana specifically. Is it a really favorable setup?

[askoth]

Originally posted by Loren:

Thank you for great tactics. But my question was how good are dual blades against AT Velkhana specifically. Is it a really favorable setup?

Damage wise?

You can find sub 8 TA wiki speedruns.
You can also find sub 7 TA wiki speedruns with lance.

There might be better times, I didn’t do a thorough search.

Imho, it will depend on how good the player is with the weapon and how well they know the monster. Playstyle is a very important factor in this game.

If you like lance, I’d recommend to look into long sword, iai spirit slash and foresight slash might fit your playstyle better if you like counter attacks. The weapon is easy to use but hard to master.

Dual blades focus more on good positioning and knowing how long are monster opening windows to choose the correct attacks. The weapon is very fast but good damage attacks are very long.

Most of at velk attacks patterns are based in the normal and tempered patterns, getting very familiar with this might help a lot. To me, it was the other way around, at velk helped me to learn the patterns of the other versions.

[Loren]

Originally posted by askoth:

Damage wise?

If you like lance, I’d recommend to look into long sword,

Not damage wise. More like moveset and weapon type meshing with specific monster wise.

I'm aware of longsword counters. I feel longsword shouldn't have been a counter weapon. But lets not get into that rabbit hole.