Monster Hunter: World

Monster Hunter: World

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kukukachu 8 DIC 2023 a las 8:05 a. m.
Looks like Capcom has now offically started the war on mods...
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ErzPaladin 28 DIC 2023 a las 3:57 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por NiamhNyx:
I have more hours in this game than you have probably been alive kid. back off lol.

Oh, so you admit that you hijacked the time-count, too? >>
ErzPaladin 28 DIC 2023 a las 3:59 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por DaBa:
Publicado originalmente por ErzPaladin:

As if anyone could trust especially you. You aren't really trustworthy to begin with.

No better way to immediately and completely discredit yourself than a random nobody throwing baseless attacks on a rather well known and established member of the MH Steam Boards like Mr September, somebody who has likely answered more questions and helped more people here than you have made total posts. I guess there was a good reason I already had you on my block list :mhwhappy: Thank you for re-affirming you should stay well on there! See you never.

... which claims one cheater over another one. You cheat on drops and he installed 65 mods... for whatever... maybe that blue birds sing the "blue bird"-song in his private cottage.
NiamhNyx 28 DIC 2023 a las 4:16 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por ErzPaladin:
Publicado originalmente por NiamhNyx:
I have more hours in this game than you have probably been alive kid. back off lol.

Oh, so you admit that you hijacked the time-count, too? >>

Hijacked time? No, idea what you mean, but you just cant be older than three years old with how you act.

Here are four of my saves.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3123092500

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3125323008

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3125323180

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3125323439

I still need to find all of mine.
Confirmed:
MHFU
MH4U
MHGen
MHW:I PS4/PC
MHR/S PC: Look at steam profile.

Unconfirmed:
MHF1
MHP3RD
MHGU (Depends on if backup still exists on nso)
Switch MHRise/Sunbreak (Depends on if backup still exists on nso)

Corrupted/Lost:
MH1, MH2, MHG: PS2 memory card failure

MHF2.... Deleted like a dumbass

MH3: Sold Wii

MH3U: Corrupted, starting over soon.

MH4/MH3G/MHX/MHXX: Need to find JP 3ds in storage.
overmage 28 DIC 2023 a las 4:30 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por ErzPaladin:
Publicado originalmente por DaBa:

What, did it make you feel like I violated you when I installed that decoration drop chance mod? Did it make you feel sick when I gave myself a good charm in Rise because I didn't feel like wasting hundreds of hours of my valuable time repetitively grinding for it? Did it anger you when I played the game last time with "ICE" installed? Did I magically crawl into your copy of Monster Hunter World on your computer and took a big, steaming pile of :repoop: through the screen directly on your keyboard?

blablabla...

Yes, if you want to put it that way. It hurts the community. It's foul play. You're like Lex Luther who runs around in a Super Man Costume. You simply don't cherish the game and you don't respect the rules.
And if you could do this in reality you would print your own money. That's the same mentality.

What's your clear time on Fatalis solo?
NiamhNyx 28 DIC 2023 a las 4:31 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por overmage:
Publicado originalmente por ErzPaladin:

Yes, if you want to put it that way. It hurts the community. It's foul play. You're like Lex Luther who runs around in a Super Man Costume. You simply don't cherish the game and you don't respect the rules.
And if you could do this in reality you would print your own money. That's the same mentality.

What's your clear time on Fatalis solo?
he probably got carried to and is to afraid :claptrap:
Última edición por NiamhNyx; 28 DIC 2023 a las 4:32 p. m.
Tenz 28 DIC 2023 a las 4:35 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por DaBa:
It never ceases to confuse me how some people are still so rabid over other people using cheats, or sometimes even simple mods that have absolutely zero impact on anything meaningful in essentially SINGLE PLAYER VIDEO GAME.

What, did it make you feel like I violated you when I installed that decoration drop chance mod? Did it make you feel sick when I gave myself a good charm in Rise because I didn't feel like wasting hundreds of hours of my valuable time repetitively grinding for it? Did it anger you when I played the game last time with "ICE" installed? Did I magically crawl into your copy of Monster Hunter World on your computer and took a big, steaming pile of :repoop: through the screen directly on your keyboard?

Because if that happened (especially that last part) then you need to go to your doctor immediately because you're hallucinating or worse. I also recommend standing up, going outside and touching some grass. It has been known to help.

"Bbbbbbut cheaters are in my multiplayer games ruining my fun!" as so many people like to say... Firstly: most of you who say this are straw manning and we know it, so give it up. We all know that didn't happen to you. Secondly: In case you're one of the rare few to which this DID happen, we also know this is rare. Surprise, we play the same game you do! Besides, wanting to take away everybody's mods and cheats just because there were a few unfortunate times somebody actually messed with your fun is like wanting to take everybody's candy just because somebody stole a small part of yours, literal child mentality. Grow up. Thirdly: You are playing the game on a PC my dude. Were you born yesterday? You get to play with a whole lot more toys, on an off chance sometimes somebody smacks you on a head with one of them. That has been the deal since I don't even know how long now, basically since I remember. Go play on a console if you want a mod-free experience.

To cite a certain mischievous squirrel: "No normies, no! Go away!"


Now, that's what you can call a TED talk. Or not, I guess, they have been pretty crap for a while now. The whole thing really went down the drain and lost much prestige, but I digress... MEMES!

Cheating in monster hunter has always been around. Yes, cheating in my experience ruins the game.
overmage 28 DIC 2023 a las 4:47 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por NiamhNyx:
Publicado originalmente por overmage:

What's your clear time on Fatalis solo?
he probably got carried to and is to afraid :claptrap:

More likely he got filtered by bosses and is convinced everyone who can beat them easily is cheating
Chaos 28 DIC 2023 a las 4:54 p. m. 
Wtf?
Both to the news and to the nonsense post hijacking going on around here.
Mr. September 28 DIC 2023 a las 4:59 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por ErzPaladin:
... and nothing from this garbage you're talking about justifies modding at all. If so it only makes it even more questionable. That's like trusting the word of a drug dealer that he-she doesn't abuse drugs, cause that drug dealer knows EXACTLY what he-she is using and what is "ok" for his-hers constitution / situation.

I give a f'ck about whether someone trusts me or not *binds the "trust-no one-shield" around his neck*. But understanding the topic is what matters and what matters is that people abuse modding for cheating.
And it's another fact... that cosmetical mods are of less importance compared to overall game fairness in terms of cheating matters. Especially in a game like MHW which still has compareably impressive general graphics even without modding.

It's not the job of some freelancing-programmers to increase the playability of games. That's actually the job of the developer.
And just cause some developers allow modding for their games doesn't legitimate this for ALL games on the market.

If a developer doesn't get the job done, then you should boycot this developer's / publisher's games in the future and maybe... you should write a negative review about the game where this developer failed to deliver.

At what part did I talk about modding in that exact post? It seems like you are also referring to my previous post, methinks. If what I mentioned weren't legitimate concerns, then we can no longer have a real conversation because you simply refuse to understand how vital modding is to video games.

Just because a minority of people use them maliciously or to cheat themselves out of the fun they could have had otherwise doesn't mean we should ban all mods. If you refer to the post I linked, you can see that I already addressed that topic. Mods are absolutely necessary, unless the developer and publisher can offer an absolutely flawless product. We both know that's not possible, of course. Not until we get some AI and edit games on the fly on every person's end. Only then will everyone have their own version of The Perfect Product™. That might happen sooner than we think, actually. Damn, imagine making mods with AI as if we were generating text. Or wait, actually, imagine editing the game itself. Or wait, even better, imagine generating an entire game that suits your tastes! Think of the possibilities! Anyway, I'm going off on a tangent.

What if the developers did a good job, but still had some silly oversights or a lack of certain graphical settings when it came to some things? Who will fix them if they stop working on the game for whatever reason? What if the errors are not big enough to justify a full-blown boycott? It really isn't as black or white as you make it sound now, does it? Like the Bloom issue I mentioned in the linked post and the more egregious hypothetical that will eventually happen since people will allow it at this rate.

If it gives you any peace of mind, I'm already boycotting a lot of publishers, and Capcom is among them after the crap they did in Rise. Selling cosmetics in a game franchise where it's a major part of the endgame? Yeah, no. You know they've lost their spirit when they start to dip their toes into those waters. I have some other reasons why I blacklisted Capcom, but that's a story for another time.

People are making a big deal out of cheating, anyway. Unless it's in a video game that is primarily based on PVP gameplay, I don't think it's a big deal. As long as it's a level playing field in moment-to-moment gameplay, I couldn't care less. In fact, I endorse cheating in some cases. Like recovering lost progress or "transferring" progress across different platforms. If they didn't want people to do that, they should have allowed save transfers across platforms for their best-selling game of all time while also offering a better save backup system.
Cainos 28 DIC 2023 a las 5:02 p. m. 
Not all games need to have mod support. Dev choice. If you don't like it...move on. Many other games that support mods on PC.
D. Flame 28 DIC 2023 a las 5:14 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por DaBa:
It never ceases to confuse me how some people are still so rabid over other people using cheats, or sometimes even simple mods that have absolutely zero impact on anything meaningful in essentially SINGLE PLAYER VIDEO GAME.
Funny how cheaters always fall back on this excuse, then about 2 minutes later join a multiplayer session to ruin other people's experience.
Mr. September 28 DIC 2023 a las 6:05 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por D. Flame:
Publicado originalmente por DaBa:
It never ceases to confuse me how some people are still so rabid over other people using cheats, or sometimes even simple mods that have absolutely zero impact on anything meaningful in essentially SINGLE PLAYER VIDEO GAME.
Funny how cheaters always fall back on this excuse, then about 2 minutes later join a multiplayer session to ruin other people's experience.

You genuinely need to put in extra effort to disrupt someone else's experience in World. Like, you legit have to be malicious. I can't stress this enough, but let me tell you. You basically have to plan ahead and actively work for it. Very few mods can let you do that. You are better off using a trainer or a cheat table for faster and better results, if you truly want to ruin the experience of others or want to cheat. Those are not mods now, are they?

Since people are being stubborn, I'll list the things that can affect the experience of other players in a quest:

1. Using a tool or mod to change parameters or multipliers related to combat to gain an advantage otherwise unobtainable. These could be your Defense, Resistances, Health or Damage. Could also be other minor parameters.
2. Using a mod that changes weapon movesets to deal more damage and/or use combos/moves that are otherwise impossible. A good example is using aerial moves without the need of jumping off a ledge or sliding.
3. Using a mod to reduce monster parameters (only works as host).
4. Using No Clagger mod or its variants (only works as host).
5. Using a mod that lets you move much faster than you should, or take shortcuts. Examples: "More Wedge Beetles" and "QoL Fast Travel". Both of those mods make you look like you are teleporting, due to how the game syncs movement across players.

As you can see, around half of the things I mentioned don't even work if you aren't actively hosting the quest in a multiplayer setting. Also, you don't need mods to do the first point. A trainer or Cheat Engine table will suffice, and is a better option.

Number 4 actively makes the game more difficult, so I don't think it really counts... 5th doesn't exactly directly affect other people, as well.

These can't affect the experience of other people in any shape or form:

1. Any sort of combat bonus that isn't immediately obvious (like restoring WEX). Reducing cooldowns for one or more things related to moment-to-moment gameplay (like mantles).
2. Custom shop list, custom Elder Melder list, custom Botanical list for different farming, reward lists for Safi and Kulve and so on... Custom decoration loot tables are also included, so you won't have to offer an arm, a leg, 50 years of your lifespan and get to MR500 to finally get the decorations you want.
3. Adding in currency by using Cheat Engine, or using a mod that multiplies the income.
4. Fashion. Since they are all client-side like literally every other mod, no one else can see them but the user.
5. Anything else that is undetectable by other people in combat.

Long story short, it's not the mods themselves that ruin the experience for others. It's the chronic cheaters that will cheat no matter what. Don't hate the tool. Hate the wielder. The rules were always for the honest guy. The dishonest and malicious ones will always find a way to cheat their way through things, regardless of rules or software. Did no one tell some of you about this in your lives? Do you seriously think banning something works?
Última edición por Mr. September; 28 DIC 2023 a las 6:42 p. m.
NiamhNyx 28 DIC 2023 a las 6:09 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por D. Flame:
Publicado originalmente por DaBa:
It never ceases to confuse me how some people are still so rabid over other people using cheats, or sometimes even simple mods that have absolutely zero impact on anything meaningful in essentially SINGLE PLAYER VIDEO GAME.
Funny how cheaters always fall back on this excuse, then about 2 minutes later join a multiplayer session to ruin other people's experience.
I do question what has ruined a lot of their experience. The only ways I can think of is being dps pinged by some jackass (that mod needs to ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ disappear), damage mods, or custom quests or something. Yet I tend to see a lot of people be like "Ohh you have a mod that makes your game darker and has no effect on me? YOU HAVE RUINED MY EXPERIENCE.

I did see a mod that removes clagger in quests I post, which I might install soon, that might ruin someones experience if I ever decide to sos i guess, which is unlikely. Also monsters never needed that extra opening...

That would put me with the loader + error correction fix, lighting mod for darker nights cause capcom doesn't have the balls to bring back darkness like tri caves..., scoutfly mod that makes them less bright and makes them not light up gathering nodes. Deco mod because I refuse to spend another 2000+ hours for the most important part of a build. Then no more clagger.

I honestly see nothing else that would ever be needed, and if capcom had put charms behind rng instead, i probably would have still been playing this on ps4.
D. Flame 28 DIC 2023 a las 6:44 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por NiamhNyx:
Publicado originalmente por D. Flame:
Funny how cheaters always fall back on this excuse, then about 2 minutes later join a multiplayer session to ruin other people's experience.
I do question what has ruined a lot of their experience.
Higher player movement speed and higher player damage to the point of practical one shots. Also ones that let you use guns' special ammo without limit.
lukaself 28 DIC 2023 a las 6:46 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por D. Flame:
Publicado originalmente por NiamhNyx:
I do question what has ruined a lot of their experience.
Higher player movement speed and higher player damage to the point of practical one shots. Also ones that let you use guns' special ammo without limit.
You're confusing mods with cheat engine tables, there. Not remotely the same both in intent and purpose.
Última edición por lukaself; 28 DIC 2023 a las 6:46 p. m.
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