Monster Hunter: World

Monster Hunter: World

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kukukachu Oct 31, 2023 @ 5:28pm
Let's be honest, even if MH6 is a giant garbage fire, you're gonna buy it anyways...
It doesn't matter if all of a sudden, the mods are heavily attacked, it doesn't matter if Capcom gets rid of any of it's risque in game armor, it doesn't matter if they add forced diversity and inclusion, it doesn't matter if they make you pay for monster DLC, it doesn't matter if you they force you to be online at all times, it doesn't matter if they add experience points just so they can sell you upgrade DLC....you're still gonna buy it.

One thing that you can always rely on is humans being a detriment on themselves.
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Nauskills Oct 31, 2023 @ 5:37pm 
Wtf is this crap I've just read
kukukachu Oct 31, 2023 @ 5:38pm 
Originally posted by Nauskills:
Wtf is this crap I've just read
The potential future of MH6 and the fact that you'll just buy it anyways if any of this does happen.
Nauskills Oct 31, 2023 @ 5:39pm 
Originally posted by kukukachu:
Originally posted by Nauskills:
Wtf is this crap I've just read
The potential future of MH6 and the fact that you'll just buy it anyways if any of this does happen.
Why do you think any of this will happen
Mr. September Oct 31, 2023 @ 5:43pm 
Can't speak for others, but I'm heavily inclined to agree. People will buy it anyway, since they lack awareness. The average game-enthusiast has incredibly low research capabilities and awareness of Capcom's business practices. They will then (probably) complain that there are weird ideas, odd design choices and ugly characters. Potentially way beyond the 2-hour mark, of course. They have to be strategic, after all.

Personally speaking, my currency is wortless and it costs an arm and a leg already to buy any game these days, regardless of release date. Even if I could afford it, I probably would consider spending the money elsewhere before games, to begin with. Probably not on Capcom's products anymore. I blacklisted them long ago, back in Rise's release. The game is probably decent, but I'm not willing to support their practices anymore. Gotta speak the only language they understand, which is "money". If only mine amounted to anything, though...

At best, I might consider going on a fishing trip, but that's about it.
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kukukachu Oct 31, 2023 @ 5:47pm 
Originally posted by Nauskills:
Originally posted by kukukachu:
The potential future of MH6 and the fact that you'll just buy it anyways if any of this does happen.
Why do you think any of this will happen
....are you serious? Have you not been paying attention? Oh boy.

Well, as you know, Capcom is in the public market and they have submitted to BlackRock and their ESG score, not only that, but the Prime Minister of Japan just made a public plea to BlackRock to help them.

Capcom just released a statement on what they think of mods and they find them basically "hacking" and intrusive. They went on about morals or virtue signaling bs like that.

We've already seen what they did, hiring a talentless hack with terrible voice acting for RE4R, all for the sake of diversity and inclusion.

and lastly, there was a survey that Capcom put out asking fans if they'd pay for Monsters as DLC. We don't know the results, but come on, let's be honest, these fans loving "supporting" this franchise and more than likely they said they would buy monsters as DLC. There might have been a little bit of pushback with the paid armors and weapons, but there wasn't enough to stop that either. It doesn't matter if the weapons and armor is layered, in monster hunter, you earn what you equip, but not anymore.

Look, I'll tell you what, I'll necro this thread again when everyone starts complaining about this stuff, it will be pretty funny :D
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Nauskills Oct 31, 2023 @ 5:57pm 
Originally posted by kukukachu:
Originally posted by Nauskills:
Why do you think any of this will happen
....are you serious? Have you not been paying attention? Oh boy.

Well, as you know, Capcom is in the public market and they have submitted to BlackRock and their ESG score, not only that, but the Prime Minister of Japan just made a public plea to BlackRock to help them.

Capcom just released a statement on what they think of mods and they find them basically "hacking" and intrusive. They went on about morals or virtue signaling bs like that.

We've already seen what they did, hiring a talentless hack with terrible voice acting for RE4R, all for the sake of diversity and inclusion.

and lastly, there was a survey that Capcom put out asking fans if they'd pay for Monsters as DLC. We don't know the results, but come on, let's be honest, these fans loving "supporting" this franchise and more than likely they said they would buy monsters as DLC. There might have been a little bit of pushback with the paid armors and weapons, but there wasn't enough to stop that either. It doesn't matter if the weapons and armor is layered, in monster hunter, you earn what you equip, but not anymore.

Look, I'll tell you what, I'll necro this thread again when everyone starts complaining about this stuff, it will be pretty funny :D
Eh, the layered armor never bothered me, I don't see where the problem is to not want to look like a blob of random stuff for half of the game.

But regardless, I'm just gonna look at the game and it's content before buying it, like I do with every games I buy
Mr. September Oct 31, 2023 @ 6:29pm 
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Originally posted by Nauskills:
Eh, the layered armor never bothered me, I don't see where the problem is to not want to look like a blob of random stuff for half of the game.

Ah, a story as old as time itself at this point. Your approach reminds me of this poem:

"First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me
"


-Martin Niemöller

Who will speak out when speaking out will potentially get you punished? Because it's actually going towards that direction, believe it or not. The illogical, hysterical and deranged woke-ists will corrupt everything they can get their obnoxious hands and minds on; moving onto the next. Eventually, there will be nothing but their entertainment, and I'm sure you will love (!) it.

Do you even realize that the mentality of the people behind this deranged ideology is something along the lines of "If I don't like it, no one else should be able to see it."? They will take your entertainment, and they will force you to consume their garbage. Unless people stop paying for this bullcrap and put an end to it, of course. All you need to do is to do nothing. Pay them nothing, and recommend your friends to do the same if they are willing to listen to you about this. That's the only way to stop this madness of the current era. Starve it by cutting the flow of money.

People are slowly being groomed into thinking that the ways of the "modern" gaming industry are "normal" and "ethical" way of designing and releasing a game. If you have even a shred of awareness, you can easily see that it is not. All this "uglification" and injection of politics into video games is unwanted, and will only cause severe PR damage and loss of money. Yet, they still insist on chasing the "modern audience" that doesn't exist, by conforming to the cult-like mentality of this era.

Also, the existing layered sets are already plentiful and look great without the 3 or so additions from pre-order bonuses, in World. Yeah, you will look a little plain before you get your hands on cooler stuff, but even the very first armor sets can look really cool, especially if you have some sense of fashion.

Originally posted by Nauskills:
But regardless, I'm just gonna look at the game and it's content before buying it, like I do with every games I buy

That's the spirit. Good to see you are doing that, really. I genuinely mean it. Doing a tiny bit of research and finding out if a company is supporting something questionable or not doesn't take long, but it does require SOME effort, so people never bother with that. The path of least resistance. The bane of human existence, at this point.

I wasn't trying to be harsh or hostile towards you in the earlier paragraphs, by the way. I'm not trying to direct my frustrations towards anyone here. I'm just so exhausted and frustrated of seeing that the things I and many others love are being tainted and twisted; and how people who barely care about them still blindly pay for the latest half-baked garbage the corporations push out.
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ressenmacher Oct 31, 2023 @ 8:06pm 
Originally posted by kukukachu:
...it doesn't matter if Capcom gets rid of any of it's risque in game armor, it doesn't matter if they add forced diversity and inclusion...

Capcom changing risque armor is either a minor QoL improvement if done well (as in, changing the female armor to not all have thigh gaps and giving the guys more than like three sexualized options), or a minor QoL problem if they hose it up.

Capcom adding more diversity to the cast probably wouldn't matter at all even if they did it well, because the plot is phoned in on a landline and if the characters were any more two dimensional this would be an anime. There's nothing to relate to or see in them.

Originally posted by kukukachu:
...it doesn't matter if they make you pay for monster DLC...

Both of their most recent games had one major expansion that was widely agreed to be of good value. These expansions received significant content updates without additional charges; I think the worst thing you can say about them were that they were technical messes on launch.

There just doesn't seem to be a pattern to suggest this is likely.

Originally posted by kukukachu:
...the mods are heavily attacked...it doesn't matter if you they force you to be online at all times, it doesn't matter if they add experience points just so they can sell you upgrade DLC....you're still gonna buy it.

This here is the real problem: the increasingly predatory editions/preorders/cosmetic FOMO DLC ♥♥♥♥, and what might happen if Capcom graduates from stupid and incompetent to just stupid when it comes to modding. I rather like running these games with good graphics at reasonable framerates, and would prefer not to have EAC come and ♥♥♥♥ the bed on that.
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Khergit Horse Archer Oct 31, 2023 @ 8:14pm 
not saying much, people will buy anything because they are just too attached to the series

people will defend dumb crud even if it's obviously crud

just vote with your wallet if you really do care lul or just go along with the flow
HoneyDrake Oct 31, 2023 @ 8:22pm 
Diversity or sexuality of a (random) npc in monster hunter? No one cares about them. They are already too flat and honestly speaking them becoming "diverse" would change nothing as long as I don't get fed some forced dialogues with them.

And you already paid for "DLC monsters": because that's what expansions are. In some cases you even got time limited event quests and event quests which were platform exclusive.

Why are you starting that topic now, instead when the first expansions dropped?

The only thing I can somewhat agree with? Their modding related approach and how they want to destroy that sector. It means we will get more invasive tools in our games soon, which is not acceptable.

But then again it's Japan. Nintendo has recently released their own statement regarding their games/consoles: anything they have not sold themselves is not allowed and they will try everything to block it. It doesn't matter if it's an tutorial, homebrew, romhacks, etc.

Capcom just does the same like any other typical japanese company: believing they are creating the best content possible and changing it is like spitting/pissing on their family graves
815|Shouldabeen Oct 31, 2023 @ 8:35pm 
Honestly I'll buy it under most circumstances. I draw the line at battle pass though. They can remove mods, they can make the females look like Fred Flintstone, they can charge for monster dlcs and I'm fine with all of it. But battle pass is just too much.
cruste Oct 31, 2023 @ 8:38pm 
Originally posted by kukukachu:
Originally posted by Nauskills:
Why do you think any of this will happen
....are you serious? Have you not been paying attention? Oh boy.

Well, as you know, Capcom is in the public market and they have submitted to BlackRock and their ESG score, not only that, but the Prime Minister of Japan just made a public plea to BlackRock to help them.

Capcom just released a statement on what they think of mods and they find them basically "hacking" and intrusive. They went on about morals or virtue signaling bs like that.

We've already seen what they did, hiring a talentless hack with terrible voice acting for RE4R, all for the sake of diversity and inclusion.

and lastly, there was a survey that Capcom put out asking fans if they'd pay for Monsters as DLC. We don't know the results, but come on, let's be honest, these fans loving "supporting" this franchise and more than likely they said they would buy monsters as DLC. There might have been a little bit of pushback with the paid armors and weapons, but there wasn't enough to stop that either. It doesn't matter if the weapons and armor is layered, in monster hunter, you earn what you equip, but not anymore.

Look, I'll tell you what, I'll necro this thread again when everyone starts complaining about this stuff, it will be pretty funny :D
Have you missed the part where the prime minister who didn't wanted to bend the knee got killed? Shinzo Abe
rina Oct 31, 2023 @ 8:50pm 
Of course, people will buy it. MH is a juggernaut that will sell millions of copies no matter what nonsense is introduced to the franchise.

Two or three years ago, I would have bought it without a doubt. But time has changed my perspective on things, and even tho I freaking love and adore MH because it has brought me so many hours of enjoyment, I have enough self-control to not support any more nonsense.
kukukachu Oct 31, 2023 @ 8:52pm 
Originally posted by ressenmacher:
Capcom is such a clumsy company that I don't really see them doing ANYTHING right lol. They always screw it up one way or another.

I had no problem with the diversity in World, but I do worry about it being taken further.

So, so DLC like Iceborne and individual DLC packs are 2 very different things.

Well, I'm glad we're on the same page with at least one thing.
kukukachu Oct 31, 2023 @ 9:07pm 
Originally posted by Khergit Horse Archer:
not saying much, people will buy anything because they are just too attached to the series

people will defend dumb crud even if it's obviously crud

just vote with your wallet if you really do care lul or just go along with the flow
the unfortunate and sad truth right there. It might not be like I'm saying much, but I am at the same time.

I understand this feeling of blindly following, because I did it with Coheed and Cambria for 10 years. I'll always have fond memories of my time with that band and seeing them live 17 times, but I slowly started seeing them going a direction I had no desire to follow and not only that, they got into politics when they claimed that wasn't their focus...it was just weird watching them become something they refuted back in the day.

I understand how blind loyalty follows, but a little bit of jadedness goes a LONG way. I have tasted that jadedness and that is why I don't trust any company or artist to ever do something right twice, not even Team Cherry. I judge the works seperately, and if there is a quality in both works, I then have that much more respect for the artist. If the quality of the work is just alright or mid, I will then believe that the artist CAN make something good, but most likely won't ever hit that same quality as before. Anno is a great example of this. I will not EVER respect what Anno did with the reboots. I love EoE, and the series is pretty good, but the movies are trash. The only good thing about those movies are only in idea, but nowhere NEAR execution.

A great example of a developer that has proven their worth would be Lake Feperd with Spark the Electric Jester 3 and the demo for Extreme Formula. This developer seems to continue to only get better and better with every game installment.

With all that said, let's look at MHW and Rise. MHW is far more superior in so many ways. I've said this before I'll say this again, it is the little details in a game that make something already good, to something GREAT! Little details don't matter if you don't already have a good game, but adding them to one only elevates that experience and it subconsciously makes you appreciate those finer details as well, especially when they're lacking in other installments.

I guess what I'm saying in all this is that people need to experience disappointment and they need to embrace that feeling of disappointment and not just cope and make excuses. When enough people do this, and the blind followers are no longer doing so, we can finally start putting everything in place. We can clean up these businesses and finally change the market, but until that time...we'll keep doing....this.
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