I finally found a group with which to do alatreon ... we get a disconnect after the 2nfd nova ....

[Zarod]

i kept going but the ice damage i was dealing wasn't enough ...

The universe wants me to hate this game ...

[DoEFotGS]

Zarod の投稿を引用：

"just build safi gear" .... i cannot !!!!!!

You don't need Safi gear. Frostfang weapon is equivalent of fully awakened frost Safi. And I'm sure you wont handle Safi drain mechanic without health augment (maybe even with augment too).

Also you still ignore the fact that MH is not about gear, is about personal skill development. You think that with better gear Alatreon won't kill you with two hits? Maybe you think that better weapon will skyrocket your damage and be able to unga-bunga a strong monster? I don't want to upset you, but if you didn't put some effort to learn and adapt - you won't get result with any gear.

[Zarod]

DoEFotGS の投稿を引用：

Zarod の投稿を引用：

"just build safi gear" .... i cannot !!!!!!

You don't need Safi gear. Frostfang weapon is equivalent of fully awakened frost Safi. And I'm sure you wont handle Safi drain mechanic without health augment (maybe even with augment too).

Also you still ignore the fact that MH is not about gear, is about personal skill development. You think that with better gear Alatreon won't kill you with two hits? Maybe you think that better weapon will skyrocket your damage and be able to unga-bunga a strong monster? I don't want to upset you, but if you didn't put some effort to learn and adapt - you won't get result with any gear.

So i click a button ... i do 200 damage.
Someone else clickes the same button, does 3k.
The same input results in different outcomes ... skill stops being a variable.

Speedrunners are not a proof that this game requires skill.
They just make self-evident the unbalanced nature of this game, that if played "as intended", it breaks the experience itself.

makinaccion の投稿を引用：

Zarod の投稿を引用：

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i am streaming it ... still no safi wing ...
like, how is me killing safi 30 time and not getting the wings a matter of skill.

I tried sticky hbg, but the partbreak did not trigger :(

You've been ignoring all my questions, so I'll stop replying accordingly, at this point it's obvious you have no interest on learning and are begging for attention or something.

Have a good one.

There is nothing to answer.
It's self evident this is my first MH game.

And the " this isn't your game " doesn't work. Because by that logic, anything can be justified despite how evil or unfair it is evil, as subjectivity protects you from objective ways to evaluate a system and its effects.

Also, if you were a developer and I gave you my money, I'd be releasing bricks, because I just gave money to a manchild that just antagonized a potential customer, instead of doing your job and serving him.
The more I play this game, and the more I interact with its community, the more cracks I see, and my hatred deepens.

Keep calling me troll and protect this objective garbage dfesign.
See what good does to Capcom's market value and the franchise.

[Kada]

Zarod の投稿を引用：

DoEFotGS の投稿を引用：

You don't need Safi gear. Frostfang weapon is equivalent of fully awakened frost Safi. And I'm sure you wont handle Safi drain mechanic without health augment (maybe even with augment too).

Also you still ignore the fact that MH is not about gear, is about personal skill development. You think that with better gear Alatreon won't kill you with two hits? Maybe you think that better weapon will skyrocket your damage and be able to unga-bunga a strong monster? I don't want to upset you, but if you didn't put some effort to learn and adapt - you won't get result with any gear.

So i click a button ... i do 200 damage.
Someone else clickes the same button, does 3k.
The same input results in different outcomes ... skill stops being a variable.

Speedrunners are not a proof that this game requires skill.
They just make self-evident the unbalanced nature of this game, that if played "as intended", it breaks the experience itself.

makinaccion の投稿を引用：

You've been ignoring all my questions, so I'll stop replying accordingly, at this point it's obvious you have no interest on learning and are begging for attention or something.

Have a good one.

There is nothing to answer.
It's self evident this is my first MH game.

And the " this isn't your game " doesn't work. Because by that logic, anything can be justified despite how evil or unfair it is evil, as subjectivity protects you from objective ways to evaluate a system and its effects.

Also, if you were a developer and I gave you my money, I'd be releasing bricks, because I just gave money to a manchild that just antagonized a potential customer, instead of doing your job and serving him.
The more I play this game, and the more I interact with its community, the more cracks I see, and my hatred deepens.

Keep calling me troll and protect this objective garbage dfesign.
See what good does to Capcom's market value and the franchise.

See what good does to capcoms market value and the franchise? Well. This is capcoms best selling game. and the second best selling? Monster hunter rise.

[Astrallight]

https://imgur.com/a/6k1QmcP
https://imgur.com/a/I0cSG5n

Just to prove this can be done with just Valkana armor and Safi weapon. How many excuses you gonna keep behind that you cant do it even with GS.

[Zarod]

Astrallight の投稿を引用：

https://imgur.com/a/6k1QmcP
https://imgur.com/a/I0cSG5n

Just to prove this can be done with just Valkana armor and Safi weapon. How many excuses you gonna keep behind that you cant do it even with GS.

xD .... again ... you keep trying to "get me" ... by constantly using NOT the build I tell you to.
No shazz, a safi weapon maxed manages to do enough damage.

why not using the frostfang?

Also, of all the things you did NOT did a screenshot of the decoration tab ... which it's absence is very telling.

I am a kind person by nature, and my first instinc is to thank you for your effort, but you didn't show the time and did this to " PROVE " something ... which is nothing.

The game remains what it is, even if you as an individual beat it it 30 seconds.

( i used many builds in my streams while i was testing stuff, try the velkhana one for instance with the frostfang )

[Knowsome]

im confused. Are you salty cause you cant beat alatreon due to skill issue? Or you just like playing a game you hate? sounds like an anime "tsundere" IRL if you ask me.

[Zarod]

Kanashi の投稿を引用：

im confused. Are you salty cause you cant beat alatreon due to skill issue? Or you just like playing a game you hate? sounds like an anime "tsundere" IRL if you ask me.

I don't watch anime. but given the definition google gives me, yeah, that pretty much sums me up.

But see ... now that i am not playing it, i feel fine! I love everyone and everything, and i am ready to save the world at my expense if necessary for no reward ...

but, the moment i boot it up and TRY to enjoy it ... I become Thanos, feeling that it's only me who has the strenght to do what's nevessary and save the industry from these bullcrap mechanics.

( u'r comment made me laugh quite a bit xD, have my points that I really do not care about )

[cruste]

Zarod の投稿を引用：

cruste の投稿を引用：

ah you remind me to the young streamer tanzverbot
he was also in psychaitry during his teenage time for gambling addiction
it is time to reveal that fancy face while the internet wants to see you suffering

he mastered the game of ragebaiting his community, while milking his haters through annoying monetized comments on twitch

you keep giving too much importance to you.
The only thing i care about is my experience being ruined, and the game being trash.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gt6IfAc1a5A
sry i have no time to follow a low testo male failing at basic tasks like killing alatreon or getting some wings from safi
but you are pure comedy gold in the forum

[Zarod]

cruste の投稿を引用：

Zarod の投稿を引用：

you keep giving too much importance to you.
The only thing i care about is my experience being ruined, and the game being trash.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gt6IfAc1a5A
sry i have no time to follow a low testo male failing at basic tasks like killing alatreon or getting some wings from safi
but you are pure comedy gold in the forum

Dude. I am cringe on purpose because I can afford to be, and for cultural reasons.

You just were one with that response UN-IRONICALLY, thinking it was a good point.

But, i am not here to flex on you or capitalize on that, cuz we are all one the same side <3 ....

you have the potential to be great, and in time you'll look back at things like that and laugh, in the face of all the good you learned to do for both you and the people around you.

[DoEFotGS]

Zarod の投稿を引用：

So i click a button ... i do 200 damage.
Someone else clickes the same button, does 3k.
The same input results in different outcomes ... skill stops being a variable.

Show me such damage difference for same action. Because by this words you proof what you don't know that are you talked about.

3k for GS in one hit even for TCS is huge and not common. And we never talked about freestyle speedrunners here, because not you, not me, not most of the players just can't handle heroic + two fortify procks at quest beginning.

[Zarod]

DoEFotGS の投稿を引用：

Zarod の投稿を引用：

So i click a button ... i do 200 damage.
Someone else clickes the same button, does 3k.
The same input results in different outcomes ... skill stops being a variable.

Show me such damage difference for same action. Because by this words you proof what you don't know that are you talked about.

3k for GS in one hit even for TCS is huge and not common. And we never talked about freestyle speedrunners here, because not you, not me, not most of the players just can't handle heroic + two fortify procks at quest beginning.

You are correct that more exact data is necessary.
I was comparing my previous build that was the one that actually made me stay alive to learn the attacks instead of the one that oneshotted me, and the damage difference was insane.

But you can see litterally the first result in Youtube.
THAT run feels awesome. Alatreon being stunned right after every major combo. Your weapons hits VISIBLY affect the monster you are fighting.

I use the same setup because I know how to play the game, only with frostfang helmet instead.
I can do the exact same inputs, and the result is completely different.
The monster stuns in my case after a good 5 minutes of me repeatetly hitting the head xD
The frostfang punishing draw feels like it doesn't even exist.

I've kinda lost all hope for the series, and with that my anger cuz I don't care that much about it anymore, but design-wise it feels awful.

I would understand a 10 percent difference, to add variety or unpredictability to combat ... 20 ... 30 percent even. But the decorations and upgrades AFFECT THE FIGHT TOO MUCH in my opinion.

I am training, I plan to continue ... I do guiding lands from time to time, but the upgrades don't seem to drop, so I am still stuck with default frostfang. The alternative is to waste all the previously farmed safi materials onto upgrading a single ice greatsword, that will become useless right after i finially beat the special assignment.

[DoEFotGS]

Zarod の投稿を引用：

But you can see litterally the first result in Youtube.
THAT run feels awesome. Alatreon being stunned right after every major combo. Your weapons hits VISIBLY affect the monster you are fighting.

What video exactly?

Zarod の投稿を引用：

I use the same setup because I know how to play the game, only with frostfang helmet instead.
I can do the exact same inputs, and the result is completely different.
The monster stuns in my case after a good 5 minutes of me repeatetly hitting the head xD
The frostfang punishing draw feels like it doesn't even exist.

No, you don't know how to play the game if you has such problem with Alatreon. And, no, exact same setup with exact same inputs in exact same situation will result exact same damage. Always. Because game has exact calculations behind the scene.

So, I has two possible answer in this situation:
1. You just lie.
2. You don't understand actual difference between your setup and actions vs setup and actions on video.

[Astrallight]

Safi is up to be beaten but he refuse to go after his gear or any gear that would help him win againts Alatreon.

At this point he is just wasting everyone's time. Its clear he dont want to do anything that comes now like guiding lands and do tempered runs for better gems and items. Cause it req him to do an effort.

[Mez Koo]

Zarod の投稿を引用：

I am training, I plan to continue ... I do guiding lands from time to time, but the upgrades don't seem to drop, so I am still stuck with default frostfang.

That's not how the guiding lands work, you need to stay in there and grind to get what you want and not just pop in randomly expecting to free materials.

[cruste]

DoEFotGS の投稿を引用：

Zarod の投稿を引用：

But you can see litterally the first result in Youtube.
THAT run feels awesome. Alatreon being stunned right after every major combo. Your weapons hits VISIBLY affect the monster you are fighting.

What video exactly?

Zarod の投稿を引用：

I use the same setup because I know how to play the game, only with frostfang helmet instead.
I can do the exact same inputs, and the result is completely different.
The monster stuns in my case after a good 5 minutes of me repeatetly hitting the head xD
The frostfang punishing draw feels like it doesn't even exist.

No, you don't know how to play the game if you has such problem with Alatreon. And, no, exact same setup with exact same inputs in exact same situation will result exact same damage. Always. Because game has exact calculations behind the scene.

So, I has two possible answer in this situation:
1. You just lie.
2. You don't understand actual difference between your setup and actions vs setup and actions on video.

his stupid channel linked in his profile now subscribe and give him a like so he can buy lamborghini and kill some peasants with the beautiful car like a real chad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbfP9LxOx8I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0W7DEmkMLU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-h_yRtcEmU

he has no clue what he is talking about and doens't understand basic stuff like affinity and result of a critical hit but iam sure he will find his community some day as all the others already made

played the goofy clown to become famous until he can't escape this persona anymore