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But for example: I had trouble finding infos about Gunlance shelling types, Normal, Wide and Long. I had conflicting and not really precise info about that in the past.
And in the end I ended up needing to search and skip around in youtube videos to get more info.
Apart from that, you could say Im more refering to the standart of a "good" wiki like other games have. We may have all information here and there but it really isnt all in one good wiki that is acessable and easy to maneuver, I guess.
Do you not feel the same? Im genuinely curious.
the wiki should only be used for superficial questions, it's not really worthy in other respects, and a lot of data is missing.
specifically for gunlance the data is both complex and requires more space, so the wiki will be woefully inaccurate for specific questions.
you would be better served finding the datamining spreadsheets for gunlance in locked google spreadsheets, which has been peer reviewed.
joining the several very large mhw communities will have links to these comparisons, hzv, damage types, spreadsheets, etc, for more detailed questions.
EDIT: I'd send you all the links myself, but when i had a hard drive swap here a month ago, i lost all of my carefully curated MHW bookmarks for every game version, and every weapon build except for IG. it was hours of work to find it all, i'm not really keen on doing it again sorry =p
Still, your best option is probably going to be a youtube video if you want a guide.
There is also a reddit post that contains copious amounts of progression builds and meta builds. You can find it here, if you want to check it.
But I feel like I need to clarify a bit:
This thread is *NOT* about me or other people being unable to find information. (although there are a few instances were it was hard and did cost time) This is more meant to be a discussion about the culture of documentation and wikis in the Monster Hunter community. Especially in comparison to for example Skyrim, Terraria, Minecraft or even smaller titles like The Binding of Isaac.
My question is: Why does the player base seemingly put less effort into maintaining or creating a fully fledged good wiki. Im honestly just curious and like to hear your thoughts, if you have some.
(Some people dont even seem to think that there is not a good enough wiki, wich I think is interessting as well.)
What good will asking this question do you? The datamining community for this game prefers not to use the wiki and instead put their information in compiled reddit threads linking to Google Sheets databases, that's all there is to it. You might as well ask why bats evolved furry wings instead of feathery ones.
This is a thoroughly pointless discussion.
Other than that assumption I couldn't tell ya. Reddit should be on the table because that's where the hard number crunchers go.
The thing is I just am not interessted in super in-depth mechanics. The guy before you was also talking about that. What I am missing is even the simple easy to test numbers for shelling types, shelling levels and stuff in that general direction.
And just to be super clear, I dont think there is actually that much info missing. Im also commenting that I find the 2 wikis we do have to be uniquely weird structured in comparision to other big wikis.
(Just as an example: I just looked it up this article (https://monsterhunterworld.wiki.fextralife.com/Gunlance) and they actually do write alot of stuff down (even the charged shot multiplier wich is definetly a hidden value.) but they only give you shell level 1 dmg numbers for example and not for higher levels. I just find that to feel a bit odd. Especially that I cant instantly see another link for an article that is strictly on shelling.
Would you in your perception say this stuff is also in the category of "stuff that takes alot of time to personally test"?
Also: (Im rambling at this point) I just find it super interessting as to why the binding of isaac wiki is so extensive and clear even though they practically worked mostly with somewhat hidden data (I mean the effects of items are never clear just from the descibtion alone in that game)
At this point I just speculate if its just a big factor that this game may attract a different type of person way more, that is generally not as willing to work on a wiki as much.
I dont know. I just find it very interessting.
Maybe Im alone with this and in this case, Im sorry that I came up with this even when people feel this discussion is pointless
I can only assume that the wiki was underdeveloped with fanfic lore + other stuff which I'm paraphrasing off this thread
https://www.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunter/comments/twz6j1/monster_hunter_wiki/
and I got no proof for this but I reckon that eventually led people to make their own stuff on reddit and stuff because the wiki was so unreliable, leading to a state where no one bothers to fix the wiki cause now theres so much more info already available on the web spread around different sites
There is an even simpler explanation for this. Monster Hunter is an old game, from the time where things like internet and wikis were not something as popular. It's an old community that does things their own way. As I've said above, most of us veterans here are used to looking up information about the game that we needed either from youtube videos, database website like Kiranico, or game forums like gamefaqs. Also, since a lot of information about MH games is transferable between different games, the existing community never really felt like we needed to create any wiki. We already have places with information we needed, we already knew what we needed to know, it's all sorted out.
Wikis like fextralife are the result of the new blood that arrived to MH with MHW trying to do what you're describing, because they are used to games having wikis like these. But since they are new they don't really have the wealth of information necessary to create a place like this. And since the old guys like us don't see a need for a wiki like this anyway, that's basically where it stopped. Also, when you already have extremely good sources of information available to you, do you really want to waste time making another one that is probably not going to be nearly as good or popular? Yeah, no.