MHR: PSA (charms)

[puzzlefox]

Many of you probably already know, but the charm forge is cursed. If you get stuck in a particular forging loop, the wisp of mystery buckets will produce the same trash charms endlessly.

https://youtu.be/Z_wGqQm_MZg

There is no way to break the loop, once you're in, you're f'd.

I myself am in this loop :(

[Mr. September]

"It's not really game breaking."

Tell that to the guy who had to grind for Attack+ Decos for hundreds of hours without any sort of modifications. I bet he considers himself lucky for getting one after a few hundred (if not more) Day of Ruin runs.

"Plus, you can ignore the deco/charm farming. If your objective isn't to min/max, I don't think it's a big deal."

Refer to the idea of "The player shouldn't have to get to MR 500 to make the builds they want just because RNG said so". Not to mention: You can't just ignore like 80% of the grind in the game just like that unless you never took it seriously (as a whole) to begin with.

"I'd even argue that the crown hunting is worst than charm/deco hunting."

Crowns are almost as offending as the decoration system, yes. The only excuse for the system can be "it's not necessary for sensible progression".

Also you got it right. I modded the rates for crowns because even though I have time to play the game for unreasonable amounts of hours, I neither have the patience nor the time to bother with RNG achievements. Simply put: I have better things to do, like hunting, socializing ingame or making builds.

[J-INFINITY]

Originally posted by Mr. September:

Also you got it right. I modded the rates for crowns because even though I have time to play the game for unreasonable amounts of hours, I neither have the patience nor the time to bother with RNG achievements. Simply put: I have better things to do, like hunting, socializing ingame or making builds.

For someone who likes to cheat, you sure brag a lot about the hours spent in game and the achievements they get from said game on your profile.

[Mr. September]

Originally posted by J-INFINITY:

Originally posted by Mr. September:

Also you got it right. I modded the rates for crowns because even though I have time to play the game for unreasonable amounts of hours, I neither have the patience nor the time to bother with RNG achievements. Simply put: I have better things to do, like hunting, socializing ingame or making builds.

For someone who likes to cheat, you sure brag a lot about the hours spent in game and the achievements they get from said game on your profile.

Irrelevant.

[J-INFINITY]

Originally posted by Mr. September:

Irrelevant.

Like you

[J-INFINITY]

Originally posted by J-INFINITY:

Originally posted by Mr. September:

Irrelevant.

Like you

If I get banned for this, I'd say it's worth it

[amathy]

Originally posted by Mr. September:

I neither have the patience nor the time to bother with RNG achievements. Simply put: I have better things to do, like hunting, socializing ingame or making builds.

...so don't get the achievements?

[ᔑᓭ∴ᔑリ⊣]

imo craftable decorations and charm farming > craftable charms and deco farming
a charm only takes a single slot

[cruste]

Originally posted by J-INFINITY:

Okay joking aside....
I'm sure it counts as advocating jailbreaking Switches and hacking/cheating to get unfair advantages in a game by saying that. That's illegal on Steam forums.

Not a mod though, so don't know

I'd even argue that the crown hunting is worst than charm/deco hunting. You can make a mix set that is functional without random decos/charms.

Plus, you can ignore the deco/charm farming. If your objective isn't to min/max, I don't think it's a big deal.

EDIT: It just occurred to me that your 100% achievements is most likely also modded. Crown hunting would be so much easier to do when you make a CQs with a bunch of crown monsters as targets.

I see the dark side is rising in you too, young padawan
good good become part of the woke cancel culture

the only thing I disliked about crown farming was the point, that you had no option to figure out if a monster was gold crown size.
Capcom could had added this feature easily to the binoculars.

There were special discords available for crown farming, but it was always annoying if you hunted a huge or tiny version just to end up with a silver crown. Thank you Capcom for trolling your playerbase. Size measuring for certain monster was also pretty annoying, jho, tobi and legiana comes instantly to my mind...

[J-INFINITY]

Originally posted by cruste:

I see the dark side is rising in you too, young padawan
good good become part of the woke cancel culture

Yeah you're right. I know I shouldn't take it too far, but I can't stand people who brags about their achievements when most of us are trying to get it without the cheats.
I get it if you play a single player game, but a cheat in a multiplayer game is just low. The person also stated that they socialize in game, meaning that they certainly have an unfair advantage compared to everyone else.

Not only that. The person also brags about that unfair advantage.
I know I'm no good with the way I handled that, so forgive me master :(

[puzzlefox]

Yes the deco farming in world was trash, no one with any sense would argue that. It was a problem. But in rise, they just replaced one problem with another one. And it's essentially the same problem just in a different format. So defending it by comparing it to the deco problem is really redundant, wouldn't you agree?

Yall are arguing over which problem was worse, which shouldn't even be an argument; it's opinions. Can we all just agree that both the world deco farming AND the rise talisman farming are both f##cking stupid and should be shifted away from an rng grindfest?

So far in rise, endgame build skill stacking is a REALLY tight fit. If you want crit eye 7, for example, pretty much your entire build has to prioritize that and only that. If you need other skills, then grab a narga weapon because that's pretty much going to be the one and only decent option. Your charm could be your only saving grace, but you know... if you had one..

[Shifty Mario]

I'm not even sure which farming is worse. Both world deco and rise rng meld are terrible. I think they only went with this for Rise because they couldn't balance the previous method since you can deposit everything now. If only every skill was available through armor skills then this talisman melding wouldn't be so bad.

Originally posted by puzzlefox:

So far in rise, endgame build skill stacking is a REALLY tight fit. If you want crit eye 7, for example, pretty much your entire build has to prioritize that and only that. If you need other skills, then grab a narga weapon because that's pretty much going to be the one and only decent option. Your charm could be your only saving grace, but you know... if you had one..

Wasn't endgame base world kinda the same with tight fitting skills?

[ᔑᓭ∴ᔑリ⊣]

U guys all forgetting the fact that there's most likely gonna be more melding options / more decos / more sets with more skills etc. the game is literally unfinished

[FuyuNoSora]

Originally posted by J-INFINITY:

Originally posted by cruste:

I see the dark side is rising in you too, young padawan
good good become part of the woke cancel culture

Yeah you're right. I know I shouldn't take it too far, but I can't stand people who brags about their achievements when most of us are trying to get it without the cheats.
I get it if you play a single player game, but a cheat in a multiplayer game is just low. The person also stated that they socialize in game, meaning that they certainly have an unfair advantage compared to everyone else.

Not only that. The person also brags about that unfair advantage.
I know I'm no good with the way I handled that, so forgive me master :(

Luke, he is your father?

[RedViper]

Originally posted by cruste:

i wonder in what universe is a wex2, crit boost2, 3 slots charm (mhrise) same as a wex2 charm in world?
This isn't just 20% of your build.

grinding is same ♥♥♥♥
in rise you have to grind the final boss nonstop for this one ritual

worst thing as always you don't know if you using the right ritual for your desired charm without 3rd party info

thank god switch was literally jailbroken from the very beginning so you can always use savegame editor to skip the nonsense.

btw lavasioth came pretty late to the show, it was the least hunted monster until release of the event quest.
before this you grinded t2 and t3 for the decos

In the same universe where all those skills don’t change your playstyle, they just increase your damage output and reduce hunt times. You want to do a guard build, you need guard up and you either get the 3-piece set that gives you guard up but has low defense, or you farm for hours just to get that one decoration.

Sure, some people love being a glass cannon, but you can still be a glass cannon even if you don’t have all the best offensive skills stacked on top of each other and complain that you can't just have them all so you can just one hit the monster as soon as you see it.

And you don’t need to farm the final boss in rise to meld the talismans, it’s the most efficient way, but it's not a most. You can still farm whatever monster you want and still be constantly melding talismans every single hunt.

Originally posted by puzzlefox:

Yes the deco farming in world was trash, no one with any sense would argue that. It was a problem. But in rise, they just replaced one problem with another one. And it's essentially the same problem just in a different format. So defending it by comparing it to the deco problem is really redundant, wouldn't you agree?

Yall are arguing over which problem was worse, which shouldn't even be an argument; it's opinions. Can we all just agree that both the world deco farming AND the rise talisman farming are both f##cking stupid and should be shifted away from an rng grindfest?

I mean, you are right. Why argue what ♥♥♥♥ smells the worst when there shouldn't be any ♥♥♥♥ here to begin with.

Originally posted by puzzlefox:

So far in rise, endgame build skill stacking is a REALLY tight fit. If you want crit eye 7, for example, pretty much your entire build has to prioritize that and only that. If you need other skills, then grab a narga weapon because that's pretty much going to be the one and only decent option. Your charm could be your only saving grace, but you know... if you had one..

To be fair, that is any early mh game end game. We no longer have the broken fatalis set with 3 lvl 4 decorations in each armor piece and with all the secrets unlocked and free hp up+3 and anjanath’s max extra stamina.

[amathy]

Originally posted by Shifty Mario:

Wasn't endgame base world kinda the same with tight fitting skills?

It's pretty close

My GS set in World before events, archtempereds, etc.:
AB5, Handicraft 4, Wex 3, Focus 3, CB3, CE2, FF1

My GS set in Rise before events, etc. w/e is coming in the future:
AB4, Wex 3, CB3, Focus 3, Speed Sharpening 3, Stun Resist 3, FF1

Biggest advantage World has is that attack boost and critical eye are level 1 deco's

Also the only thing that would change w/ a god charm is a couple levels of attack boost, not exactly the end of the world
People acting like not having a god charm is preventing them from having like AB7, Wex 3, CB3, Agi 5, CE7 or something are being crazy