Other games with REALLY HEAVY weapons like Hammer and Greatsword

[Leon]

I loved the heavy weapons in this game , both Hammer and GS. I never saw games with heavy weapons that really commited to the idea of atacking less but making each blow feels like a nuke.
Most games with heavy/ 2-handed weapons you trade slightly speed for slightly damage , nothing really too much impactful.


The animations are great to , each detail, from the ultra slow speed to the way the character have to basicly throw the weapon around with the weight of his whole body , all of that gives the feeling that you are wielding the haviest piece of metal in the world


Now i'm looking for other games that have the same kind of experience, not just having 2-handed heavy giant weapons, but really feeling like such


- I already have Code Vein in my list, played the demo and the heavy weapons felt decent enought for me

- I have FFVII remake on my PS4, but didn't get to play , never was a big fan of this franchise convoluted plots , but i know Cloud stole Guts Sword , so does it relly feels heavy or is it just cosmetic , like those animes where the skinny character have a gigantic sword but wield it like a rapier ?

- Some may recomend Demon/Dark souls but i'm really not into those specific games . I like other souls-like games tho, that have some spin on the originals ( like Code Vein i mentioned already). I already played Remnant from the ashes too, that have some cool heavy weapons .


Edit : i'm thinking about other hunting games too , like God Eater .
Are there heavy weapons as satisfying in GE as they are in MH ? And how many heavy weapons in GE ?

[Mr. September]

Nioh 1 and 2. You can use a hammer/axe or Odachi and just mash your way through without ever getting deflected.

[Dagný]

Originally posted by Leon:

- Some may recomend Demon/Dark souls but i'm really not into those specific games .

ZWEIHANDER

[Xenos]

It's funny hearing you aren't interested in Dark Souls when it has so much in common conceptually and in-practice.

- no pausing
- rolling for repositioning and I-frames
- multiple weapons and builds
- enemies can and will kill you in 3-4 hits
- intelligent use of resources is mandatory
- you'll fail a lot
- has a lot of boss fights
- absolute gigantic weapons that are clearly unrealistic but still hilarious and fun to use
- anything is viable

[Leon]

Originally posted by Mr. September:

Nioh 1 and 2. You can use a hammer/axe or Odachi and just mash your way through without ever getting deflected.

Thats another game i'm not really much into , but i have it cause PS Plus, so i'll give it a try

Originally posted by Dahlia Hawthorne:

Originally posted by Leon:

- Some may recomend Demon/Dark souls but i'm really not into those specific games .

ZWEIHANDER

I got a Zweihander on Code Vein , just now it cliked for me that it's german for 2-handed xD

Originally posted by Xenos:

It's funny hearing you aren't interested in Dark Souls when it has so much in common conceptually and in-practice.

- no pausing
- rolling for repositioning and I-frames
- multiple weapons and builds
- enemies can and will kill you in 3-4 hits
- intelligent use of resources is mandatory
- you'll fail a lot
- has a lot of boss fights
- absolute gigantic weapons that are clearly unrealistic but still hilarious and fun to use
- anything is viable

I know right, a friend said the same, but there are some reasons for that

To be fair , i didn't liked MHW gameply at first, i hated it indeed. I just forced myself to keep playing cause i loved everything else about it .As i said on other threads i'm a Kaiju, giant animals, megafauna , zoology lover. With time i got used to the combat

Maybe if i get back to DS know ( i have DS 3) i would adapt better to the combat . But i was never much attracted to the world of DS , i dont like the bleak colors , the desings , and the lack of a proper story with narrative is a big negative for me

And , its much more complex on it's systems , you have much more to deal , mechanics to understand , possibility for builds , much more numbers with stats and stuffs plus with how harsh it punishs players it gets hard to experiment things and my intellect is very limited , so i like to play more simple things and relly more on my hand-eye coordination skills then my brain.

[Leon]

Mr. September , i saw you are playing Nier Automata, i was looking for this game,, does this have satisfactory heavy weapons ?

[Mr. September]

Originally posted by Leon:

Mr. September , i saw you are playing Nier Automata, i was looking for this game,, does this have satisfactory heavy weapons ?

Good question.

You get to use a heavy weapon in the prologue/tutorial (some 2H sword) but it gets "dropped" until you return to your "corpse" to get it back.

You do get some good heavy weapons down in the line as far as I'm aware. The game is also discounted and they removed Denuvo recently and I was like "Huh why not" so I got it. So far having a blast. Feels almost nostalgic since I did play the game a little a long time ago (don't ask how ).

[Rhyagelle]

Honestly, Dark Souls, but if you really aren't interested in it... Nioh or Nioh 2 might be the next best option.

[Leon]

Originally posted by Mr. September:

Good question.

You get to use a heavy weapon in the prologue/tutorial (some 2H sword) but it gets "dropped" until you return to your "corpse" to get it back.

You do get some good heavy weapons down in the line as far as I'm aware. The game is also discounted and they removed Denuvo recently and I was like "Huh why not" so I got it. So far having a blast. Feels almost nostalgic since I did play the game a little a long time ago (don't ask how :taloslol:).

To be fair this game wasn't on my radar, i tought it was too much fan service , but than i saw that as a similar game to Code Vein
I read that , tho the character desings seems over the top , it have good combat and story

Now i have done some dig after you said you loose your 2-handed at the begning and read that you get the 2 handed swords just at the second half of the game , is that true, it takes that much to have heavy weapons ?

Originally posted by Rhyagelle:

Honestly, Dark Souls, but if you really aren't interested in it... Nioh or Nioh 2 might be the next best option.

I was really tryingt to avoid those, Demon/Dark Souls 1-3 , Nioh 1-2 and Bloodborne

[Mr. September]

Originally posted by Leon:

Originally posted by Mr. September:

-my post above-

To be fair this game wasn't on my radar, i tought it was too much fan service , but than i saw that as a similar game to Code Vein
I read that , tho the character desings seems over the top , it have good combat and story

Now i have done some dig after you said you loose your 2-handed at the begning and read that you get the 2 handed swords just at the second half of the game , is that true, it takes that much to have heavy weapons?

Character designs are alright so far (unless there is a character that dresses even spicier than 2B lol). Honestly, Code Vein had way more fanservice than Nier: Automata if you ask me.

What I meant earlier was: You lose your 2H sword temporarily at the start (you get sent to the same map a short while later). You can buy a 2H sword from an early vendor as well (just figured that out).

You can check the weapon list if you are interested. This link leads to Large Swords: https://nierautomata.wiki.fextralife.com/Large+Swords

[Chocolate Goomba]

If you've never tried it, there's another nifty little gem from Capcom called Dragon's Dogma. It's one of my favorite games of all time, and it's actually what got me interested in Monster Hunter. I think you'll find exactly what you're looking for in the Warrior[dragonsdogma.fandom.com] vocation; you'll essentially be a mixture of Guts and Cloud Strife.

Edit: I've beaten God Eater and...I'm not sure you'll find exactly what you're looking for there. There are some heavy, impactful weapons, to be sure, but for me, the biggest problem with the combat was how a lot of the time, your attacks just seemed to pass through enemies, without any flinching or stunning on their part. Perhaps try finding a video or two of the gameplay, see if it suits you. Anywho, I hope this helps!

[cruste]

god eater series, graphics are dated and gameplay isn't as good as mhw
but there is also an anime if you are interested in world building etc.
it is an dystopian future setting with gaint monsters and strange living weapons

toukiden kiwami series
you fight against japanese demons
port quality of the first game was very poor, game crashed alot especially in multiplayer, but had an option to use bots in sp, don't know about the second title

dauntless is a free to play copy pasta of mh

[Mr. September]

Originally posted by cruste:

free to play copy pasta of mh

Not to crap on Dauntless (in fact, I did have fun when I used to play it) but it really feels subpar when compared to MHW. The combat doesn't feel as fluid and making builds feel lacking.

An alternative? Yes. A good alternative? Well... Take a wild guess.

[CookedMeat]

One design that might have contributed to satisfaction of heavy weapon in MHW, IB to be accurate, is the attack lag when you landed a hard hitting moves like True Charge Slash. The slow-mo really feels like an adrenaline shot.
God eater's weapon don't feel as heavy and impactful, you really feel like an anime man swing giant chunks of metal like a broom stick.
Comparing Dauntless to MHW is like comparing fine dining to fast food, fast food ain't bad but it rots you inside out when you eat too much. I have over thousand hours on both games so I think it's fair for me to rate it this way. Dauntless combat is much much much shallow, and the effects are more like Magic and Sci-Fi rather than realistic, it lacks the impactful feeling of MHW weapons, but you can get some big PP damage number there.
I personally feel like Nier Automata don't focus too much on weapon impacts either. But the combat is very fluid and have excellent vfx and sfx. It is also very rich in story, and has A LOT of lore hidden to be discovered. The music is also epic.

[prpl_mage]

Lord of Arcana for the PSP is a mission based "hunting" game like MH, the two hander there is great.

Otherwise I would suggest fighting games such as Soul Calibur 2-6(7?) a lot of detail is put into the different weapon movesets to make them feel amazing, Astaroth, Nightmare, Siegfried etc.

Final Fantasy Dissidia likewise has some heavy hitting characters although you will spend most time flying around the battlegrid with air dashes and the enemies are other characters.

[Mr. September]

Originally posted by prpl_mage:

Lord of Arcana for the PSP is a mission based "hunting" game like MH, the two hander there is great.

Otherwise I would suggest fighting games such as Soul Calibur 2-6(7?) a lot of detail is put into the different weapon movesets to make them feel amazing, Astaroth, Nightmare, Siegfried etc.

Final Fantasy Dissidia likewise has some heavy hitting characters although you will spend most time flying around the battlegrid with air dashes and the enemies are other characters.

Aw man. You gave me nostalgia with that name. I used to love Lord of Arcana. It was basically my first MH game before a real MH game (which was MHFU). I still have my trusty ol' PSP as well.

Aw man x2. Used to love Dissidia as well. I played it for around 300 hours I think. My favorite build was the cheese Iai strike build lol. Good times.

I fully recommend those two games. They are old but damn they are good.