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Maybe its time to give MHW for free?
I'm thinking about that for a few day, its becoming harder and harder to find someone in need of help, or even for come to help you.
If you guys look on steamcharts, you'll notice that we only have 8,041 players online (on the momment that im writing that), and the 24h peak was 24k.
Even 24k looking like a big number, we have to remember that we dont have acces to that 24k of players, since the game are separated by regions.

Now you guys should consider that soon MHR will be launched to PC and we can expect a decrease on already dying MHW userbase.
The problem is that I dont liked MHR, for me, MHW are a much better game, but my opinion seens unpopular based on what I already read.

I believe that giving ir for free will bring new players and a longer life for our userbase.
Plus: more players will enter on MH universe, increasing the chances for them to buy MHR or even the Iceborn DLC.
Its a win/win, theres no reason for just let MHW die like that.
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Xenos 15. zář. 2021 v 16.37 
Are you the same person that suggested this last time and got flamed into the dirt?
This again? *sigh*

Xenos původně napsal:
Are you the same person that suggested this last time and got flamed into the dirt?
Interestingly, no. It's not the same person (unless they made an alt just to post the same thing again). I just searched for it and found the old post: https://steamcommunity.com/app/582010/discussions/0/4758602630160380416/
Naposledy upravil Mr. September; 15. zář. 2021 v 16.41
Seamus 15. zář. 2021 v 16.47 
No, it's not time to give it away free. We don't need the droves of cheaters that going free brings.
Rei 15. zář. 2021 v 16.52 
Xenos původně napsal:
Are you the same person that suggested this last time and got flamed into the dirt?
Well, I cant imagine why someone would flame that. Its a obvious solution.

Seamus původně napsal:
No, it's not time to give it away free. We don't need the droves of cheaters that going free brings.
And what? Its a PVE game. Who cares if someone cheat or not? If someone who im helping start cheating, ill just leave.
Let me just copy-paste what I said in the other thread:

"I'll be honest. Your idea would benefit no one apart from people who have and had absolutely no interest in the game (they might try it because it's free but otherwise don't care). The ones who are interested either played it by shady means or already own the game legitimately.

I see no upsides here. An influx of new people won't benefit Capcom (especially if they paid nothing) or the playerbase. In fact, it'd make the already existing people even more elitist (myself included) than they already are.

People who won't even play or buy the base game (since they aren't interested) shouldn't have the option to get it for free (unless it's to test by getting a shady copy)."
Seamus 15. zář. 2021 v 17.10 
Rei původně napsal:
And what? Its a PVE game. Who cares if someone cheat or not? If someone who im helping start cheating, ill just leave.
Good for you.

You having issues finding people to carry you is not a reason to go free to play.

Free to play games are a blight on the industry and do nothing but encourage the addition of more monetization and pay to win crap alongside the inevitable cheaters because this game lacks both anti cheat and a ban system.

You want to find a carry? There are discords for that. Free to play isn't the answer.
bought the game, think its trash, was unable to get refund because of artificial time inflation. Barely logged into game and disliked it from the get go, did not play as long as they list.
dreykken2 původně napsal:
bought the game, think its trash, was unable to get refund because of artificial time inflation. Barely logged into game and disliked it from the get go, did not play as long as they list.
Should have been smart and sailed the high seas to test the game before you invested in the real deal.

Blame yourself.
Naposledy upravil Mr. September; 15. zář. 2021 v 17.41
Rei 15. zář. 2021 v 17.44 
Mr. September původně napsal:
Let me just copy-paste what I said in the other thread:

"I'll be honest. Your idea would benefit no one apart from people who have and had absolutely no interest in the game (they might try it because it's free but otherwise don't care). The ones who are interested either played it by shady means or already own the game legitimately.

I see no upsides here. An influx of new people won't benefit Capcom (especially if they paid nothing) or the playerbase. In fact, it'd make the already existing people even more elitist (myself included) than they already are.

People who won't even play or buy the base game (since they aren't interested) shouldn't have the option to get it for free (unless it's to test by getting a shady copy)."

"they might try it because it's free but otherwise don't care)"
Yes. And there's absolutely no problem with that. Let them try, the ones who will enjoy will stay.
Let's be real, m8, not everyone are from a first world country who have spare money to spend on game who are proportionally cheaper in that countries too, you can imagine that have millions who are willing to play but simple dont have money.
Most of that people will or play on "shady means" or will simple not play. People playing on shady means cant play with us (I guess), so they'll ofc prefer to play a official copy. People who simple dont play because dont have the knowledge or are just afraid of viruses and others problems, will also enjoy a official copy too.
Plus: people like facility, that's why aplications like Spotify make so much succes even when people can just download the musics via torrent.
Theres much more people willing to play a f2p game in a official platform with no or little problems than willing to go search for it in a shady site and deal with outdated versions, bugs, viruses and etc.

Take GTA Online as exemple. It was empty, almost all sessions was with just 3~4 players if you was lucky, then they gave it on Epic games months ago and it still filled with people now.


Seamus původně napsal:
Rei původně napsal:
And what? Its a PVE game. Who cares if someone cheat or not? If someone who im helping start cheating, ill just leave.
Good for you.

You having issues finding people to carry you is not a reason to go free to play.

Free to play games are a blight on the industry and do nothing but encourage the addition of more monetization and pay to win crap alongside the inevitable cheaters because this game lacks both anti cheat and a ban system.

You want to find a carry? There are discords for that. Free to play isn't the answer.

"Huuur they'll cheat" Who cares? Nobody, even you dont care, even capcom dont care because its a PVE GAME, dont make any difference in ur or my life. People already cheat, take a look on nexus mods, and it dont change absolutely nothing in ur life.
It change so little on your life that you pretend that it dont already happen. If what people are doing with their game is a problem for you, so just quit the game because breaking news: that game are filled with cheaters, but soon they realize that dont have any satisfaciton on cheating on PVE.

And thanks, I dont need anyone to carry me, stop projecting. I just like to help people and feel that I'm playing a game with more than me, my friend and GF.

Yeah maybe talk with epic workers, heck you might even get multiplatform crossplay. But I don't want steam version filled with free riders, No.
Rei původně napsal:
"they might try it because it's free but otherwise don't care)"
Yes. And there's absolutely no problem with that. Let them try, the ones who will enjoy will stay.
My point flew right past your head apparently. The ones who are interested already played the game one way or another. People who either have mild or no interest don't suddenly deserve to get something for free. If they cared, they would have gotten it one way or another. There are so many games Epic give away for free and (I know you won't care but) want to know what I do? I simply don't care. Their platform does not interest me. Especially when they are practically owned by a country who has concentration camps and social point system. I'd rather not support a service that has ties to such a country, no matter how good their deals are.

Rei původně napsal:
Let's be real, m8, not everyone are from a first world country who have spare money to spend on game who are proportionally cheaper in that countries too, you can imagine that have millions who are willing to play but simple dont have money.
I'm from a craphole 3rd world country and I would have bought this game if it wasn't a gift from a friend. Your argument is invalid because as I said: People can play the game one way or another as long as they truly want to do so. Saving money or sailing the high seas are common options. At worst case, they wait for a discount and grab it at a one that suits them.

If you can't afford games, you probably don't have the time to play them as well because you should be focusing on education and/or work to earn money. This partially applies to me and that is exactly why I either sail the seas, save money or wait for a favorable discount before buying a game. I'm patient.

Rei původně napsal:
Most of that people will or play on "shady means" or will simple not play. People playing on shady means cant play with us (I guess), so they'll ofc prefer to play a official copy. People who simple dont play because dont have the knowledge or are just afraid of viruses and others problems, will also enjoy a official copy too.

Take it with a grain of salt (I may be wrong) but the last time I heard about shady copies, they could play with other people as long as they all had the exact same version (was it build?) number. Yes, they can't play with "us" (as in the most up-to-date version) but they can still play with each other unless I'm remembering wrong.

Come to think of it, I should test that sometime. Maybe it actually (or still?) works. I'll grab a friend and see how it goes later on. Thanks for the reminder. At least I have something interesting to do now other than playing the same games for hours lol.

Rei původně napsal:
Plus: people like facility, that's why aplications like Spotify make so much succes even when people can just download the musics via torrent.
Theres much more people willing to play a f2p game in a official platform with no or little problems than willing to go search for it in a shady site and deal with outdated versions, bugs, viruses and etc.

Free games sustain themselves with various methods. Many of these methods are either intentionally or unintentionally designed to make the customer pay as often as they can and as much as they can.

You are basically suggesting Capcom to add gameplay-affecting microtransactions in Capcom's ALL TIME BEST SELLING title. Why would they mess up such a great success by going F2P? We do have some cosmetic MTX but those don't directly affect progression or give you an advantage that can't be gained otherwise so they are not as egregious.

Rei původně napsal:
Take GTA Online as exemple. It was empty, almost all sessions was with just 3~4 players if you was lucky, then they gave it on Epic games months ago and it still filled with people now.
You mean the title which flopped so bad that it's now sustained by little kids with their mom's credit cards? Oh I heard of that one. I also heard that it is crap, however. But that's beside the point (hearsay is irrelevant, that's what I mean). The reason why that game was empty is probably because it was crap. No way around it. Good games get paid. It's simple as that.

Ever wondered why the "woke agenda" (or whatever you want to call the madness we live in) is not selling well in book, comic book or video game industry? It's because they (as in "whoever writes such crap") aren't making a quality product that has a character and a soul. They are making propaganda and enthusiasts don't want that. That's why their products all fail miserably.

People pay for what they truly like and desire, unless they are a-holes who love being leeches. I bet those types of people also evade taxes. Heh.

My point stands. There is no reason to make an AAA title which took thousands of hours of development time to go free. Ultimately, no one will benefit from this apart from the bottom of the barrel cheapskates.
Naposledy upravil Mr. September; 15. zář. 2021 v 19.54
no please.
Seamus 15. zář. 2021 v 18.29 
Rei původně napsal:
"Huuur they'll cheat" Who cares? Nobody, even you dont care, even capcom dont care because its a PVE GAME, dont make any difference in ur or my life. People already cheat, take a look on nexus mods, and it dont change absolutely nothing in ur life.
It change so little on your life that you pretend that it dont already happen. If what people are doing with their game is a problem for you, so just quit the game because breaking news: that game are filled with cheaters, but soon they realize that dont have any satisfaciton on cheating on PVE.

And thanks, I dont need anyone to carry me, stop projecting. I just like to help people and feel that I'm playing a game with more than me, my friend and GF.
Kay.

Can't say as I believe your claims of not needing a carry.

You've still yet to provide an actual argument for making the game free, though. "I can't find people to play with" isn't really a reason to make it free. And your GTA comparison is pretty crap as well. The online in that has never been low on player count. It's essentially the main reason the game has remained on top played games on steam since the pc launch. The epic release had nothing to do with it.

If you're not finding people, change your download region. Or make more friends. Or go to one of the many MH focused discords.

Addition: Just talked to a friend and he told me that shady copies of MHW can connect to each other without issues. In fact, they still use Steamworks to connect to each other. My favorite part here is how Capcom did not prevent shady copies from using Steamworks to play together.

Want to know the best (or worst, depending on perspective) part? v15.11.01 is actually available out there. That literally means sailors can play with the legal folks if they know how to find the said copy.

I'm just an honest fisherman if anyone wonders. I love the sea. What I might be or might not be implying is not promoting anything. Make of that what you will.
Naposledy upravil Mr. September; 15. zář. 2021 v 18.46
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